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Hoodbhoy, I didn't expect this from you

We should send Behoodabhoy to RSS Hindustan where he can live his fantasy.
 
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A renowned Pakistani nuclear physicist has termed his country's founder Mohammed Ali Jinnah as a confused man, who had no idea and vision for the nation he founded as Pakistan.

" Jinnah, who we hold in such great regard, is the founder of Pakistan. But he never was able to put down what that Pakistan was to be. He never wrote a single research paper, he never wrote an essay. He gave a lot of speeches which are different times said very differently," Pervez Hoodbhoy said.

The nuclear scientist elucidated his statement with historical evidence, quoting an excerpt made by Jinnah at the Bar Council at Karachi in 1948.

"In 1948, while addressing the Bar Council at Karachi, he said that this (Pakistan) will be a land where Islamic law will be applied. He ( Jinnah) did not have an idea of Pakistan...When he was asked in 1945 that what will Pakistan be, he ( Jinnah) said we have plenty of time. When we achieve Pakistan, we will see what is going to be," Hoodbhoy said.

He continued, "There was nothing about how you would get rid of the jagidaris. There was absolutely no mention at all that Pakistan would be a federation or a non-federation. There's nothing on that. How would Pakistan survive in a world where science and technology makes one country strong. We have no plans for that. So, Pakistan was born in a state of confusion."

The nuclear physicist, who in 2017 had said that his country was becoming a 'fascist religious state', made the comments in Karachi during "Adab Festival" recently. Speaking at the fest, he went on to poke holes in the two-nation theory, terming it as "nonsense" and admitted that Pakistan "mistreated" and "exploited" Bengalis.

"We have not been honest with ourselves in the last 73 years. We are not being honest now. Pakistan is in a state of confusion because it was born in a state of confusion. The basis of Pakistan as articulated by Muhammad Ali Jinnah was that there only two nations that live on this subcontinent. They are mutually hostile, they cannot ever live in peace. That was the first part. The second part is Muslims formed a nation," Hoodbhoy said.

"...This is completely nonsensical. If Muslims formed a nation that could live at peace with every part of that nation, we would not have Bangladesh. We mistreated Bengalis. We thought of them as lesser people. We exploited them and we massacred them," he said.

Hoodbhoy outlined that the confusion should have ended in 1971 when the two-nation theory "went into the Bay of Bengal".
"We should have got rid of the two-nation theory then. It makes absolutely no sense today. It is nonsense today," he said while taking a jibe at the ruling establishment, challenging it to arrest him.


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...n-pak-nuke-scientist/articleshow/74075965.cms
 
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A renowned Pakistani nuclear physicist has termed his country's founder Mohammed Ali Jinnah as a confused man, who had no idea and vision for the nation he founded as Pakistan.

" Jinnah, who we hold in such great regard, is the founder of Pakistan. But he never was able to put down what that Pakistan was to be. He never wrote a single research paper, he never wrote an essay. He gave a lot of speeches which are different times said very differently," Pervez Hoodbhoy said.

The nuclear scientist elucidated his statement with historical evidence, quoting an excerpt made by Jinnah at the Bar Council at Karachi in 1948.

"In 1948, while addressing the Bar Council at Karachi, he said that this (Pakistan) will be a land where Islamic law will be applied. He ( Jinnah) did not have an idea of Pakistan...When he was asked in 1945 that what will Pakistan be, he ( Jinnah) said we have plenty of time. When we achieve Pakistan, we will see what is going to be," Hoodbhoy said.

He continued, "There was nothing about how you would get rid of the jagidaris. There was absolutely no mention at all that Pakistan would be a federation or a non-federation. There's nothing on that. How would Pakistan survive in a world where science and technology makes one country strong. We have no plans for that. So, Pakistan was born in a state of confusion."

The nuclear physicist, who in 2017 had said that his country was becoming a 'fascist religious state', made the comments in Karachi during "Adab Festival" recently. Speaking at the fest, he went on to poke holes in the two-nation theory, terming it as "nonsense" and admitted that Pakistan "mistreated" and "exploited" Bengalis.

"We have not been honest with ourselves in the last 73 years. We are not being honest now. Pakistan is in a state of confusion because it was born in a state of confusion. The basis of Pakistan as articulated by Muhammad Ali Jinnah was that there only two nations that live on this subcontinent. They are mutually hostile, they cannot ever live in peace. That was the first part. The second part is Muslims formed a nation," Hoodbhoy said.

"...This is completely nonsensical. If Muslims formed a nation that could live at peace with every part of that nation, we would not have Bangladesh. We mistreated Bengalis. We thought of them as lesser people. We exploited them and we massacred them," he said.

Hoodbhoy outlined that the confusion should have ended in 1971 when the two-nation theory "went into the Bay of Bengal".
"We should have got rid of the two-nation theory then. It makes absolutely no sense today. It is nonsense today," he said while taking a jibe at the ruling establishment, challenging it to arrest him.


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...n-pak-nuke-scientist/articleshow/74075965.cms

Jinnah is dead. I don't understand why these people won't let him rest in peace. The two-nation theory is alive and well inside India right now. The Hindu right is waging its war on Muslims right now as we speak in Kashmir and else where. I think Hoodbhoy is getting old and senile. He lives in a bubble and needs to look outside his circle.
 
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Hoodbhoy should move to India. Modi is his favorite leader.
If you had taken some time to watch the video, you would have known how he says Modis ascent was helped by Hindu-Muslim hatred. Read before replying Maximus.
 
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A renowned Pakistani nuclear physicist has termed his country's founder Mohammed Ali Jinnah as a confused man, who had no idea and vision for the nation he founded as Pakistan.

" Jinnah, who we hold in such great regard, is the founder of Pakistan. But he never was able to put down what that Pakistan was to be. He never wrote a single research paper, he never wrote an essay. He gave a lot of speeches which are different times said very differently," Pervez Hoodbhoy said.

The nuclear scientist elucidated his statement with historical evidence, quoting an excerpt made by Jinnah at the Bar Council at Karachi in 1948.

"In 1948, while addressing the Bar Council at Karachi, he said that this (Pakistan) will be a land where Islamic law will be applied. He ( Jinnah) did not have an idea of Pakistan...When he was asked in 1945 that what will Pakistan be, he ( Jinnah) said we have plenty of time. When we achieve Pakistan, we will see what is going to be," Hoodbhoy said.

He continued, "There was nothing about how you would get rid of the jagidaris. There was absolutely no mention at all that Pakistan would be a federation or a non-federation. There's nothing on that. How would Pakistan survive in a world where science and technology makes one country strong. We have no plans for that. So, Pakistan was born in a state of confusion."

The nuclear physicist, who in 2017 had said that his country was becoming a 'fascist religious state', made the comments in Karachi during "Adab Festival" recently. Speaking at the fest, he went on to poke holes in the two-nation theory, terming it as "nonsense" and admitted that Pakistan "mistreated" and "exploited" Bengalis.

"We have not been honest with ourselves in the last 73 years. We are not being honest now. Pakistan is in a state of confusion because it was born in a state of confusion. The basis of Pakistan as articulated by Muhammad Ali Jinnah was that there only two nations that live on this subcontinent. They are mutually hostile, they cannot ever live in peace. That was the first part. The second part is Muslims formed a nation," Hoodbhoy said.

"...This is completely nonsensical. If Muslims formed a nation that could live at peace with every part of that nation, we would not have Bangladesh. We mistreated Bengalis. We thought of them as lesser people. We exploited them and we massacred them," he said.

Hoodbhoy outlined that the confusion should have ended in 1971 when the two-nation theory "went into the Bay of Bengal".
"We should have got rid of the two-nation theory then. It makes absolutely no sense today. It is nonsense today," he said while taking a jibe at the ruling establishment, challenging it to arrest him.


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...n-pak-nuke-scientist/articleshow/74075965.cms

Errr.......he was never a "Pakistani Nuclear Scientist". He is a nuclear Physicist, i.e. a Nuclear Physics Professor in Pakistan. He had no hand in the Pakistani Nuclear program, which is clearly what the title of the article is trying very hard to imply.



On Topic:

The man is a drama queen who tries to seek attention every chance he can. Thinks too much of himself as well. Some of the reasons why, even in academic circles, he isn't very well received.
 
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Errr.......he was never a "Pakistani Nuclear Scientist". He is a nuclear Physicist, i.e. a Nuclear Physics Professor in Pakistan. He had no hand in the Pakistani Nuclear program, which is clearly what the title of the article is trying very hard to imply.
Thats what you got from the article? Wow. And only the people who have worked first hand with military are Nuclear Scientists and everyone else is just freelancing? Come on.
 
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I think India and Pakistan both are confused and were created by the British empire. If they were smaller countries divided among ethnic lines, that landmass would be way more prosperous.
 
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Quaid was a vali, he was a visionary who was able to see what the injun elite and society was and is.

If hoodsboy was able to live a hundred life times, he would not be able to achieve what Jinnah Sahib has achieved.
 
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Thats what you got from the article? Wow. And only the people who have worked first hand with military are Nuclear Scientists and everyone else is just freelancing? Come on.

No no, no need to try to be sly. I don't get baited by stupid arguments. The title clearly tries to make it sound like he is one, which he is not. And since he is not, suddenly, his moronic views seem less interesting, almost worthless. A random professor at a university in Pakistan disagrees with Mr. Jinnah? Big deal. If he was a professor of history or politics, his views might hold stronger ground. But nuclear physics? Doubt his PHD in Nuclear Physics gave him any greater insight into the matter. Wonder why did the Indian article think it significant to mention then.

Furthermore, Hoodhboy is clearly not very well versed in the history of the partition. His allegations are clearly belied by the fact that Jinnah signed to stay in a united India. We were saved from that mistake only thanks to Nehru. Neither was Jinnah's vision of the two-nation theory ever what Hoodboy implies it to be, nor did Jinnah ever state or imply what Hoodhboy is crediting him with. He then confuses geographic limitations and ethnic politics with the two nation theory. Something which Mr. Jinnah saw years before and hence originally called for two Muslim States. Bet you didn't know that now did you? Hoodhboy doesn't either, maybe he should first write those research papers on the matter himself before recommending them to Mr. Jinnah. So, in short, both Hoodhboy and this article fail to stand very elementary tests of inquiry and hence can take a hike. Also fail to keep my attention for very long, hence the lack of this commentary in my previous post.
 
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Can someone please explain to me how a confused man was able to change the map of the world?
How can the actions of a confused man change the lives of millions for the better?
I am sure this nuclear physicist reckons that he is not confused, in that case what has he achieved in his life and how many people's lives has he changed.

If Jinnah was confused then i am happy that he was confused. Thank you Jinnah for saving us from the Sanghis to the East.
 
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