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Hefajat-e-Islam Chief Shafi demands Ahmadiya Muslims be declared as non-Muslims

Dude you can make out the 2+2 question yourself mate.

These are protected minorities and thus it is important that they be left alone to live their lives as they please. It is the unwarranted hate they have for Muslims that i am protesting against.
i completely agree with you.
i was just confused when you brought Punjabis into this, i don't have any problem with that because its your opinion so i respect that.
 
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i completely agree with you.
i was just confused when you brought Punjabis into this, i don't have any problem with that because its your opinion so i respect that.

well is it not true that Qadiyani/Ahmadi religion is Punjab based? Most ardent supporters and believers hail from Punjab. What is so controversial about this now?
 
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well is it not true that Qadiyani/Ahmadi religion is Punjab based? Most ardent supporters and believers hail from Punjab. What is so controversial about this now?
that is correct, we punjabi Muslims also consider them non Muslims, so i don't have any problem with that.
 
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that is correct, we punjabi Muslims also consider them non Muslims, so i don't have any problem with that.

Muslims are Muslims. You can choose any adjectives but that wont really matter.
But i hope you are not confused anymore. Canadian grilling season is upon you and being confused about random things will eat out the grill fever.
 
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that is correct, we punjabi Muslims also consider them non Muslims, so i don't have any problem with that.

Ahmadi movement was created by British to deviate South Asian Muslim and to convert them.

https://www.alislam.org/library/book/truth-about-ahmadiyyat/ahmadiyyat-and-the-british/

However regardless that assumption is true or not, whether they are Muslim or not, they should be given opportunity to believe what they want and pray. In 21st century you can’t force people to believe something or suppress them.

It’s like debate in Christianity whether Mormons are Christians.
 
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Muslims are Muslims. You can choose any adjectives but that wont really matter.
But i hope you are not confused anymore. Canadian grilling season is upon you and being confused about random things will eat out the grill fever.
all good man
However regardless that assumption is true or not, whether they are Muslim or not, they should be given opportunity to believe what they want and pray. In 21st century you can’t force people to believe something or suppress them.
well they already free to do what they want.
 
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Do we not have bigger issue.
Like how many of us in Pakistan know what namaaz mean. Yes we pray but what are we prayinv? Blind faith
 
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As a responsible member of the international community who are committed to preserve the sanctity and right to worship for any religion - Bangladesh Govt. is committed to protect religious freedoms of any group, such as Ahmadiyas, Kadiyanis as well as that old nutcase Mr. Shafi.

If uneducated extremist idiots don't get it, they will be taught forcibly.



They have, and yes their freedom to practice their religion is protected, unlike in other uncivilized places. There are many Ahmadiyya Ibadatkhanas all over Bangladesh.
Well , about religious freedom I agree. But truth to be told . In order to be a Muslim you must have to accept Muhammad (pbuh) as the final prophet and after him no prophet will come . Ahmadiyyas claim that Mirza Gulam Ahmad is a prophet , so I am unable to understand how they are Muslim! If they are Muslims , then Jews are Muslim too , because only Jews and Muslims follow strict monotheism . So here monotheism is not the case , In order to be a Muslim one must practice monotheism and accept Muhammad (pbuh) as not only a prophet and messenger of God , but as the final prophet of God .

Well still I believe that they must practice their (Ahmadia )religion peacefully in Bangladesh.

If uneducated extremist idiots don't get it, they will be taught forcibly.

You can divide and rule them in various cases . Unfortunately in this case it's not possible . You can change doctrines of many religion by fatwa of various leaders , but dogma can't be changed .

Look at the christian world , they do not consider "oneness pentecostal" as mainstream Christians because they reject the original tenets of Christianity and that is Holy Trinity . Force them to accept , it will back fire .

Look at the Jews in Middle age , they rather choose to die , but did not accept the Trinity concept , because If anyone accept Jesus as God or even a prophet , he can not remain a Jewish. Here you can read the Jewish position on Jesus Christ . Same goes for Islam too about the dogmatic cases .

So if you forcibly try to change their dogma , you will be doomed , and they will be the winner . So I do not think that any Govt will go against them in this case ( dogma) . Govt will play neutral . So if Muslims claim that Ahmadis are deceiving Muslims with their Missionary activities ( to convert muslims to Ahmadiyya religion ), you can not forcefully suppress them by tagging them as extremists ( in dogmatic case, because all Muslim will be labeled as extremists in this way) , because in this case they are Completely right ( about Who is a Muslim or not ).

But govt also should not bow to their (deobandi )demand too. Govt neither should declare them non Muslim, nor should take any action to mullahs in this dogmatic case. Playing neutral will help current govt alot.
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Bangladesh is doing good for past few years but as you know Mullahs can never see anyone happy, have you seen their faces? They are always angry and full of hate, If Bangladesh wants to follow the Mullah Pakistan model then sure go ahead but I hope your leaders also look at what happened in Pakistan after the sectarian can of worms was opened.

He's not wrong here. Ahmadis are not Muslims. That's a different religion. Any Islamic scholar can prove that. But no need to declare anything. Religion is someone's personal matter.
 
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He's not wrong here. Ahmadis are not Muslims. That's a different religion. Any Islamic scholar can prove that. But no need to declare anything. Religion is someone's personal matter.

You have that right but governments have no right to interfere in someone's faith.

If some Ahmadiyyas love BD so much, then they should move over there.

I’m sure Hasina will welcome them with open arms.

Pretty sure Ahmadis in Bangladesh are a very small minority and they're all Bengali. Mullahs just using religion once again to cause chaos and destruction, its the only think they are good at when they're not raping children in their religious schools.

ofcourse Pakistan is a country born out of a religion.

well i am sure you will say the same for Bangladesh if it declares Qadiyanis as non Muslims.

its cute how a punjabi supermacist cult is clinging on to Bangladesh. a country born out of Rebellion.

good job. caliph is proud of you

Punjabi cult is better then a foreign cult. ;)
 
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It is the unwarranted hate they have for Muslims that i am protesting against.

It does not behove a member of a death cult, like yourself, to go around prancing about hate of others. After all, it wasn't the Ahmadis burning Sunni women and unborn Sunni girl on Eid. It was your pious sarakari Momins showing their love for others.

Seriously, the likes of you shouldn't be throwing rocks whilst living in a glass palace. Your ilk's hatred for everything different to you is known to all the world.
 
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You have that right but governments have no right to interfere in someone's faith.
Yes right . Govt must remain neutral and also should control any violence against Ahmadis, but Ahmadis also should compromise in a certain degree,otherwise thing will be messed up . So for peace both side should compromise.
And I am sure Bangladesh govt is wise enough to understand this fact.
 
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Punjabi cult is better then a foreign cult. ;)

what foreign cult? Islam?

It does not behove a member of a death cult, like yourself, to go around prancing about hate of others. After all, it wasn't the Ahmadis burning Sunni women and unborn Sunni girl on Eid. It was your pious sarakari Momins showing their love for others.

Seriously, the likes of you shouldn't be throwing rocks whilst living in a glass palace. Your ilk's hatred for everything different to you is known to all the world.

keep snorkling
 
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Pretty sure Ahmadis in Bangladesh are a very small minority and they're all Bengali. Mullahs just using religion once again to cause chaos and destruction, its the only think they are good at when they're not raping children in their religious schools.

Punjabi cult is better then a foreign cult. ;)

You don’t like it when people stereotype you, but you are fine stereotyping 97% of your countrymen.

It does not behove a member of a death cult, like yourself, to go around prancing about hate of others. After all, it wasn't the Ahmadis burning Sunni women and unborn Sunni girl on Eid. It was your pious sarakari Momins showing their love for others.

Seriously, the likes of you shouldn't be throwing rocks whilst living in a glass palace. Your ilk's hatred for everything different to you is known to all the world.

So Islam is a death cult according to you?

Wait until BD gets a load of Ahmadiyya propaganda.

:pop:
 
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You don’t like it when people stereotype you, but you are fine stereotyping 97% of your countrymen.

Muh rising Bongstan will be Scandenvia of South Asia

*Dont get me wrong Bangladesh economic growth should be celebrated but to rub into anyones face they be the next South Korea and their ogaggab aoggaga they are more liberal than Pakistan or India is just plain stupid
 
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