Hate Speech in a Secular State

[KS]

I don't watch Indian news channels but read the news in different sites and I am not naive - I know these are run by Burkha Dutts, Macaulayputris and other JNU types and I could see the hypocrisy when I had to search the site for this news and the Hindu was taking a potshot at both hindu organizations and Owaisi in their opinion section. And I see the similar trait expressed by members like Showstopper who can't discuss the issue at hand and want to bring in other organizations as well into the discussions(the same he did when the Mumbai riots and UP riots happened) . So my post was more of a rhetoric to show these how dignified the hindus and the orgs are with this incident.

Ofcourse they will...that perennial victim mentality of being eternally wronged by the majority community is so ingrained in them that they possibly cannot see the wrongdoings on their own part and keep putting up weak defences for the trangressions. An elected MLA shouting in a country like India with its "history" that he will finish off the 100 crore Hindus and there are people who try to defend that speech. But the one thing they forget to understand that these "wolf", "wolf" now will only help rear a real wolf, infact it is happening as we speak, and when it comes sometimes in the future, no one will be there to help - just like in the fable. Actually you know what ? The first thought that came to my mind when I heard his speech was - wtf, lets be generous..lets give this guy one full day..atleast at the end of it, India will be ridden off hate mongers like him.

 

[Sashan]

Ofcourse they will...that perennial victim mentality of being eternally wronged by the majority community is so ingrained in them that they possibly cannot see the wrongdoings on their own part and keep putting up weak defences for the trangressions. An elected MLA shouting in a country like India with its "history" that he will finish off the 100 crore Hindus and there are people who try to defend that speech. But the one thing they forget to understand that these "wolf", "wolf" now will only help rear a real wolf, infact it is happening as we speak, and when it comes sometimes in the future, no one will be there to help - just like in the fable. Actually you know what ? The first thought that came to my mind when I heard his speech was - wtf, lets be generous..lets give this guy one full day..atleast at the end of it, India will be ridden off hate mongers like him.

KS - CBE 1990s nigazhchigal ungaloda ennangalai maatriyadaa? like constable Selvaraj ku nadanthavai?

 

[KS]

KS - CBE 1990s nigazhchigal ungaloda ennangalai maatriyadaa? like constable Selvaraj ku nadanthavai?

aamam..adhu mattrum erandaiyirathu irandill nadanthavayum kooda..

 

[bronxbull]

No they should not be killed..then no difference between them and civilized society and will only make those hijdas as a martyrs and will lead many impressionable minds to their doom in the name of revenge..rather he should face the full extent of the law for the crime he committed..

Goli ni maarnge uski,keh ke lenge.

 

[bronxbull]

What a strawman argument!!

When did you go and ask Barkha Dutt's opinion on Akbaruddin's comment? If someone asks her, she will surely condemn his statements. Do you disagree?

Because a newswoman pursued one bigot, you cannot accuse her of not pursuing another. Just like you cannot accuse a journalist covering a crime of not covering others.

And as I said, you chose a bad example.
Barkha Dutt is a known Congress poodle. But that does not make what she says as automatically false. At least she is not going to become India's PM.

Are u such a kid dude?

Barkha dutt is not a film star to doa s she pelases,if NDTV acts like a righteous sob who ll be the face of the people and what they ought to know,then they ought to do the right thing.

Thats the problem with taking a self righteous tone,u gotta do the whole thing not just what you want.

that sorry ****** who rode a career on the words of PVC Vikram Batra,an open faced dalaal and she gets some aukaat for some random verbosity.

If i had a chocie,i ll bomb the JNU and the nihilistic marxists merely for a weak existence on a golden throne.

I was saying:
Barkha Dutt is not responsible for you or your feelings. Still if you ask her about her opinion, I made a guess on what her response would be.

In any case, what do you want to achieve by making a list of all people who attacked RSS but did not attack Akbaruddin? I would simply say it is their choice. You can crucify them for their own faults but not for what they did not condemn on twitter.

then their credibility is lost bigtime,in the gool days dalaals get slaughtered in beech bazaar.

 

[KS]

Are u such a kid dude?

Barkha dutt is not a film star to doa s she pelases,if NDTV acts like a righteous sob who ll be the face of the people and what they ought to know,then they ought to do the right thing.

Thats the problem with taking a self righteous tone,u gotta do the whole thing not just what you want.

that sorry ****** who rode a career on the words of PVC Vikram Batra,an open faced dalaal and she gets some aukaat for some random verbosity.

If i had a chocie,i ll bomb the JNU and the nihilistic marxists merely for a weak existence on a golden throne.



then their credibility is lost bigtime,in the gool days dalaals get slaughtered in beech bazaar.

What's the point in trying to reason with people who know they are doing a straw man argument without commenting on the thread topic. Hence ignore.

 

[bronxbull]

sari ok,thala FBla adhu naan thaan. i hope adhuvum neenga thaan.

 

[The_Showstopper]

Put yourself in the shoes of a non Hindu then think, you don't want to kill and eat that's fine but let's give others the freedom to decide what to eat and not to.

more over Even if you are a Hindu, would you be surprised if I tell you that ancient Hindu killed and eat cow,buffalo meat ? check the link.


http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...id-clerics-appeal-muslims-11.html#post3534141

This Gaumata slaughter issue is one of the reasons why there are communal disturbances in various parts of our country. So why not avoid it so that the Sangh Parivar would get one less issue to pander abt...

 

[KS]

I already gave you an example about journalism not needing your idea of 'partiality'.

Its not my idea of partiality. Its common sense. When a self righteous dob cries foul at the drop of a hat at any supposed hate speech made by anyone from the majority community but maintains a studied silence at hate speech from minority community then it does not take a friggin einstein to point out the hypocrisy. If you call yourself secular, against hate monegering, a liberal and more importantly the head of one of the biggest media houses in India shaping public opinion you gotto do the whole routine. Not just one part.

And yes, by her silence on this matter she has exposed herself as just another hindu-phobic libtard who will make a hue and cry made by some random loony in the right wing, but will be silent, against the ethics of her profession, when the same is done by some body in the minority comunity, much less the kid brother of her dear OwaISI 'sahab'. But thank God, the social media in India has grown in strength to keep a check on these hindu-phobic macaulayputris and force them to deal wit an issue that they would rather ignore.

sari ok,thala FBla adhu naan thaan. i hope adhuvum neenga thaan.

enna peru ?

 

[bronxbull]

Inga edhuvum solla venaam ,nalla full surnameoda irukkum.

 

[The_Showstopper]

In the list of hate speeches of Owaisi I posted it can be clearly seen that they stretch back as far as 1996. And either way the mandir is listed in the Endowments and Charity board... And FYI we dont need permission from Razakars like OwaISI to build our temples.

The last time I checked ASI was controlled by Indian government. When did the Razakars overtake it???

Anyway continue defending your "youth icon" who has ran away to London like the rat he is and who probably wont return anyway. Good luck for a life in exile. And dont give me the "I-am-no-Owaisi-supporter"..the fact you got all worked up and started defending a utterly indefensible thing shows who you support and who you dont.

"youth icon"??? LOLZ Some one rightly said "Ignorance is bliss". Carry on... I don't need to defend anyone but you seem to get excited on selected issues.

No it isnt. This was clarified in the Lok Sabha by the concerned minister during question hour to a query by BJP.

If you are so sure then read this below sentence again...

"Cattle and buffaloes which account for over 60 per cent of meat production, are primarily reared for milk and towards the end of their productive life, are utilised for meat production. A ban on meat production or export would lead to an abnormal rise of unproductive animals which is inconsistent with sound animal husbandry practices," Sharma said.

Source: Narendra Modi's statement on beef exports inflammatory: Anand Sharma - Indian Express

No clearly it wasnt. Hum pachees karod..tum sau karod..pandra minute police ko hatado..bata denge kis mein himmat kitna hain, kaum taakatwar hain is hardlytalking about retaliation..calling the state assembly as kuffarstan is not about retaliation...calling the police as namard fauj is not retaliation..infact that "hum pachees" has suicide all over it..considering what happened when police were allegedly looking the other way in certain places...so if not for nation's sake, atleast for your own sake stop defending this hijda who did not have the courage to follow up and ran away with the tail inbetween his legs..that is the quality of these leaders..

As stated earlier how you selectively quote his statement. Why not post the whole transcript of his speech where he mentioned about the "zulm" muslims have faced in atleast Andhra Pradesh. He spoke abt attacks on muslim youth which did happen

Attacks on Muslim youths put cops on alert - Times Of India

Hyderabad on alert after attacks on Muslim youths | Siasat

Two Muslim boys attacked near Minar Function Hall, in old city of Hyderabad

6 burnt alive in AP, MLA 'role' in riots being probed - Indian Express

Instead of being selective in criticism, criticize all hijdas including Togadia's and Singhal's...

 

[KS]

The last time I checked ASI was controlled by Indian government. When did the Razakars overtake it???

And similarly the last time I checked the Endowments and Charity board was controlled by the State Govt. So what gives the Razakar permission to comment on that ?

Anyway irrelevant to the topic.

As stated earlier how you selectively quote his statement. Why not post the whole transcript of his speech where he mentioned about the "zulm" muslims have faced in atleast Andhra Pradesh. He spoke abt attacks on muslim youth which did happen

Its not like there have been no attacks on Hindu people. Stop this wallowing in victimhood. In India everyone faces the short stick and law is a ***** towards everybody. And even in that case what gives him the right to abuse our Gods and call for killing of 100 crore hindus ?People like Owaisi should have been chased away..Its our mistake that we let these razakar leftovers to live here in India.

Instead of being selective in criticism, criticize all hijdas including Togadia's and Singhal's...

Well atleast they did not call for complete extermination of Muslims or runaway like rats to London when faced with law like the hijda-e-deccan.

 

[SamantK]

Attacks on Muslim youths put cops on alert - Times Of India - Dec 16th, 2011

Hyderabad on alert after attacks on Muslim youths | Siasat -

Unknown miscreants have attacked

There is no proof that they were Hindus.. Many Hindus were killed today, they are being attacked by a group (Should I pressume Muslims, esp Owasi saab's group?) - 9 November 2011

Two Muslim boys attacked near Minar Function Hall, in old city of Hyderabad - Again, unknown persons, It could have been these Owaisi bigots to play the minority card, why not? (Since this is anyways a conspiracy) -- November 01, 2012

6 burnt alive in AP, MLA 'role' in riots being probed - Indian Express -- Oct 13, 2008, please tell me what happened here

Instead of being selective in criticism, criticize all hijdas including Togadia's and Singhal's...

Response in red and btw if they were attacked why so much time gap? Anyone can see through your play here dude..

We will condemn and criticize them but just because you want me to do that now here and diminish this arse's wrong, never!

 

[The_Showstopper]

You started the comparison of Owaisi and others... If all of us were good enough to condemn, take legal action and go our way things would have been much better but as usual bs and comparisons are made only by the ones who want to make it a majority /minority issue..

Yes, still does not make it right and should serve as no justification for this hate speech...

I am not comparing them as some over here are trying to do. I am just trying to point out the selective criticism of some. I don't see a post on PDF when a saffron right-wing nut job makes hate speeches then how come this news made it to PDF. So why so-much importance to particular hate speech??

 

[SamantK]

I am not comparing them as some over here are trying to do. I am just trying to point out the selective criticism of some. I don't see a post on PDF when a saffron right-wing nut job makes hate speeches then how come this news made it to PDF. So why so-much importance to particular hate speech??

Show me a thread opened for their speeches where this is not criticized, but do not expect me going haywire because those which you pointed out were not half of what this guy is saying.

Regarding the emboldened part, yes it needs to be showcased, cause we are in a secular country.. Going by our country, you cannot just condemn anyone's religion and get away.