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Yes, BD goods are good man. Seriously, all the people who have doubted the quality of BD materials use it to believe it. Insha Allah the whole Subcontinent will be Prosperous and happy in the near future :)

I just hope the Hate against others shown by some some BD members in this forum stops (not only others, even DR Younus is under Fire here, it has irked me much, he is a person I admire) God Speed.
 
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we WILL be facing the financial crunch soon in this year or the next.so better be prepared for it.
 
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Yes, BD goods are good man. Seriously, all the people who have doubted the quality of BD materials use it to believe it. Insha Allah the whole Subcontinent will be Prosperous and happy in the near future :)

I just hope the Hate against others shown by some some BD members in this forum stops (not only others, even DR Younus is under Fire here, it has irked me much, he is a person I admire) God Speed.

Don't forget that Dhaka was always known for the quality of fabric. I have been to Dhaka. Dhaka sarees are still great. Dhaka used to be a great centre for learning. Most of great Bengalis have their Dhaka connection. If you look at the list of Noble Leurates in Indian subcontinent, majority are either bengalis or having some sort of bengali connection. Its just that these guys have to put their brain in positive use. Personally I have very high hopes on BD provided they don't waste their energy on inetrnal fights and playing proxy to other nations.

RK
 
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Don't be pessimistic. Think positive. BD is on right Path and I am sure God will also side with BD.

RK

I think PRUDENCE concept is always the best way to move forward.
Our central Bank governor told us to wait till March to see the full effects of crisis.
 
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If the poor could express their views they would scream about how Dr. Yunus's organization charges 25-30% on loans and makes them dependent. It doesn't matter what the whole world says when a truth is told. Dr. Yunus is not the saviour of Bangladesh and if BD is doing well it is because of the millions of unrecognized garments workers and remittance senders that it is. Has nothing to do with Dr. Yunus although he is taking all the credit.

It is these bloody Indian pretending to compliment BD but are really behind the scenes holding us back which them makes them so hypocritical and ugly. Who the hell cares what the bloody Indian think of us. Indians do not like BD's who stand up and tell the truth. When the Indians do not have an answer they rant and rave like lunatics and hooligans.

Nobel-man’s un-noble corporate nexus


Dr Yunus has become a blue-eyed boy of the corporate world for his excellent performance and innovations in the field of investment and marketing of finance capital and technology among the poor through micro-credit. The Third World is not a risk-free area for investment,

writes Omar Tarek Chowdhury

New Age – Dec 13, 2006

Dr Muhammad Yunus, the self-proclaimed ‘banker to the poor’, has been awarded Nobel Peace Prize 2006 and following the announcement of the award mainstream media created an euphoria throughout in Bangladesh. The mainstream academia has also jumped on the bandwagon. The unrestrained wave of delight created by the mainstream of society representing the ruling class in the wake of Yunus’ adornment with the coveted prize, has given it a ploy to camouflage its hollowness, intellectual shallowness and failure to govern the society it dominates. This ruling class is rotten to the core and morally and intellectually bankrupt. No wonder that in the era of neo-liberalism the opinion-makers and the dominant media, controlled by capital as they are, will be hyper-active to make people forget their woes and ‘feel good’. The award has provided a very good opportunity to them. The merriment-deluge washed away the sense of necessity that makes one analyse the significance of this world-famous laurel which has been bestowed upon the founder-head of the Grameen Bank (GB).

Except a very few sceptics none will disagree that no other person has been adorned with so many awards and honorary degrees than Dr Yunus, the teacher-turned-banker. The person advocating credit for the poor has so far won 68 awards, 28 honorary degrees and 15 felicitations from his motherland and other countries. Along with him the GB, his much acclaimed creation, has been awarded 8 national and international awards including Nobel Peace Prize 2006. These are, in a real sense, a recognition of his efforts to contain the poor in a way that helps to maintain the status quo and identify an effective alternative institutional method for profitable investment of finance capital. So, the mainstream policy-makers have come to recognise the merit of this method. The method devised by him has proved effective to all concerned ranging from the UN poverty-crusaders to the Citibank, from the promoters of technology-not-friendly-to-environment to the finance capital investors. These ground realities made it necessary for a wide range of actors to construct a mythical image of Dr Yunus and in doing so there was an avalanche of awards, honours, etc., for him, an unending supply of chairs in the boards of ‘independent’ and ‘not for profit’ foundations floated and supported by multinational corporations (MNC). Reports with illusory images of his warm friendship with kings and queens and presidents and first ladies were circulated giving the impression of a fairy tale of friendship between a prince and a ‘pauper-son’. The target for these image-bombardments was the psycho-world of the common people. The corporate-controlled pundits, media and opinion-makers have ‘illuminated’ the psycho-world of common people with illusions and high-pitched propaganda to drain people of their reasoning, the power of questioning and the capacity of digging out truth. Sometimes the power-owners appear successful, at least for the time being. Relying on his magnified image Dr Yunus has successfully become a broker in the world of international finance capital, in the marketing of technology and in the mainstream political economy. (It should be mentioned that brokering, lobbying, etc are recognised and dignified professions in the western world.) Muhammad Yunus has been and is being awarded repeatedly for efficiently acting as a broker on behalf of big corporations of the West and as a chain reaction one award has attracted another.

The world of awards

No award is politics-, economics-, philosophy- and ideology-neutral. While discussing an award it is worthwhile to take stock of the organisations or persons behind it, to whom it is awarded, and the reasons behind not awarding it to some other person than the one who has been tipped for it. Joseph Stalin was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize but was not awarded it. Jean Paul Sartre, and in the near past, Arundhati Roy, the defiant voice, refused the Nobel Prize and Sahiyata Academy Award of India respectively. All these facts demand an analysis. Dr Yunus was awarded the World Food Prize, known as the Alternative Nobel Prize, in 1994 and the prize is patronised by 74 organisations including the ‘famous’ US agri-business company Monsanto, Cargill and other US large soya bean and farm products exporting companies, the Agriculture Research Service of the US government, a number of financing companies and the ‘famous’ Coca-Cola. Yunus took initiative to float a joint venture company to market harmful agricultural technologies (genetically engineered seeds, Roundup herbicide, ‘transgenic’ or ‘genetically modified’ plant species) of Monsanto, a company despised in the West, in Bangladesh after being bestowed with the Alternative Nobel prize. Even US $150,000 was accepted by him to set up Grameen Monsanto Centre for Environment-Friendly Technologies. This ‘pious’ act of brokering was initiated during the second micro-credit summit. Monsanto in its zeal to send ‘poverty’ to a museum approached Dr Yunus, would be curator of ‘poverty museum’, and he did not hesitate to collaborate. An adventure indeed! But he was later compelled to make a retreat with ‘dignity’ following a flurry of criticisms from different parts of the world by the environmentalists. However, the former university teacher offered no explanation to the members of the public, not even to his constituency –– the poor in Bangladesh. Probably highly innovative minds need not engage in ‘petty’ acts like offering public apology for making profit at the expense of the environment and food security of the country. Nor do the poor have the opportunity to map the minds that win friendship of MNCs and kings and queens. But a number of personalities and organisations should be acclaimed for compelling the Nobel-man retreat and they include Vandana Shiva, the philosopher and environment activist; late AZM Obaidullah, a famous Bangali poet; and Nayakrishi Andolon, a movement for ecology-friendly agriculture in Bangladesh. The now-futile venture of the micro-credit evangelist is a stark example of harming the agriculture of his motherland, endangering food security, creating dependency, and all these mighty tasks were planned to be initiated by offering ‘free’ technology through micro-credit, the ‘panacea’ for the poor. The myth of ‘telephone ladies’ has been created with the same tact.

These ‘simple’ acts tell the intimate tales of the friendship between the poor’s banker and the mighty rulers, and help to explain reasons why the corporate-owned media and the pundits, who are ideologically linked, are untiringly singing the same mantra, propaganda and gospel to build up the cult of the banker for the humble. An in-depth enquiry will show that many of the individuals and organisations engaged in this campaign are connected to each other through business and financial concerns. The link here is, also, finance and business. Just as the World Food Prize was related to the marketing of Monsanto-technology among the farmers of Bangladesh, the One World Broadcasting Trust Media Award (1988) and the World Technology Network Award (2003) from Britain, the Telecinco Award (2004) from Spain, connected to marketing of mobile phone, the Economist Innovation Award (2004) and the Leadership in Social Entrepreneurship Award (2004) from the US and many other awards were meant to expand corporate business interest. The German telephone giant Deutsh Telecom and the US software giant Microsoft are the patrons of the Petersberg Prize which was awarded to the Grameen Bank in 2004.

Dr Yunus has received the Seoul Peace Prize from Korea a few days after he had been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Before he left for Seoul and after his return from there he did not forget to advice the caretaker government, mainly responsible to organise national election during its 90 days’ tenure, to take a quick decision on opening the Korean Export Processing Zone (EPZ) in Bangladesh.

It seems that formal functioning of the Korean EPZ is the top priority of the friend of the poor as MNCs have unrestrained liberty to plunder the natural resources of the country under the guise of foreign investment; as corruption, kick-backs and absence of transparency are the norm in these deals, and as many people in this country –– about half a dozen poor villagers –– sacrificed their lives to safeguard the rights of people on the Fulbari coal mine in the northern Bangladesh; as the people of the country do not know the consequences of the agreements with companies like Asia Energy, which was awarded with the Fulbari coal mine on terms highly unfavourable to Bangladesh. It is interesting to note that though there are awards for those who can help the MNCs to maximise profit, there is none for advocacy work to create pressure and realise compensation for the irreparable loss of natural resources due to MNC operation. For example, there has been no award for anyone protesting against the damage done to gas and to bio-diversity by MNCs in the Magurchhara and the Tengratila gas fields, in north-eastern Bangladesh, which blew out due to their callous handling of the well-digging work. There has been no prize for advocacy work to safeguard people’s rights and environment in the Fulbari coal mine and its surrounding areas, there is no patron to support lobbying work in Washington D C in favour of the female workers in the garments factories who need safer working condition so that no worker has to be killed in fire accidents in the factories.

The tentacles of MNCs

It is known to all that huge amounts of fund necessary for education and research in the universities in the West are often provided through grants, assistance, investments, etc by many Foundations and Endowments set up by the MNCs. Such donations obviously influence the activities of these universities. These financial supports influence, directly and indirectly, the ideology of the faculties, the boards of directors, the boards of regents, etc; the decision-making process; curricula; and areas and subjects of research in the universities. The MNCs efficiently manipulate these bodies and process to advance their own interest. Awarding honorary degrees is an old tactic to build up someone’s image or to polish someone’s palm. There are precedents of awarding honorary degrees to despised and despotic rulers from different countries. Compared to those instances awarding Dr Yunus scores of honorary degrees and awards seems to be ‘small, innocent’ act. However, there is a need to remain awake to the ramifications of such awards and honours instead of naively looking at them as the ‘recognition of a person’s extraordinary contribution’.

Muhammad Yunus was selected as one of the ‘25 most influential businessmen in the world in the last 25 years.’ Wharton School of Business made this selection in 2004 for a documentary made for the Public Broadcasting System (PBS), US. The rich and powerful tycoons in the list included Bill Gates, George Soros, Oprah Winfrey, Jeff Bezos, Richard Branson, Warren Buffertt, Michael Dell, Alan Greenspan, Lee Lacocca, Charles Schwab, Frederick Smith, and Sam Walton. The image of Dr Yunus that has been built up gradually as a friend of the poor is, apparently, not in accordance with these rich people. Then, there comes the big question: what is the below-the-surface reason for his inclusion in this group of moneyed people? Is it a mere whim of a leading business school? But an analysis of the politico-economic factors brings forth a different answer: the efficient performance of Dr Yunus as a new pathfinder for the investment of capital, as a broker and salesman of technology is the actual reason for his getting selected by the corporate circle as one of the 25 most influential businesspersons in the last quarter century. The capacity of the Grameen Bank in this area is what has prompted the corporate circle to make its decision correctly.

A few more examples will help to show the close deals between Muhammad Yunus and the corporate world. He is a member of the advisory body of the Stockholm Challenge, the global network of the entrepreneurs of information and communication technology. The other members of the board include the senior vice-president of the chief research and science office of the San Microsystems, one of the leading computer companies; the president and CEO of Ericson; a member of the European parliament; a leading entrepreneur of Russia, Western Europe and the US. This list is enough for anyone to understand that safeguarding corporate interest, instead of pushing back poverty to a history museum is the main objective of this corporate network.

Dr. Yunus is co-president and a member of the advisory board of PlaNet Finance (PF), a French organisation for financing micro-credit programmes. Sanofi-Aventis, a multinational pharmaceutical company, is one of the financing patrons of PF. Should anyone believe that Sanofi-Aventis and other multinationals are so eager to eliminate poverty from the face of the earth? One may pray that their eagerness should not be like that of Monsanto. If they are a bit less enthusiastic about poverty elimination that would a favour to the poor.

Dr Yunus, as a member, adorns the advisory board of the Holcim Foundation, ‘independent of business interest’ established and run by one of the biggest cement and construction material producers in this poverty-ridden world. The Swiss company’s revenue in 2000 was US $ 8.2 billion. A look at the activities of the Rockfeller and Ford Foundations that have been criticised and condemned by many will help understand the reasons behind establishing such foundations and the type of activities they often carry out.

The brand name of Grameen Bank

Apart from the close connections and deals with the MNCs Dr Yunus has an organisational structure to turn micro-credit into a vehicle for the investment of capital and marketing of technology produced by the MNCs. The Grameen Bank acts as a brand name or a franchise. Micro-credit programmes, broadly designed after the Grameen model, are now being run in more than 100 countries, in continents east and west, in the north and the south. While Bill Clinton initiated it in the US state of Arkansas, the Reserve Bank of India, ‘inspired’ with the neo-liberal ideology, has liberalised their rules so that the programme can be introduced among the starving tea farm workers in north-eastern India and among the poor in south India. It is a single string tying all: finance capital, the idle-capital seeking interest.
The Grameen Foundation USA (GFUSA) was established in 1997 to propagate and to expand the activities of interest-seeking finance capital among the poor. Dr Yunus is one of the founder-members and board members of this Foundation, a strategic partner of the GB. This Foundation has now spread out its credit net over 7 million breathing souls in 22 countries through 52 networks. This Foundation invests finance capital among the poor through its marketing of telephone, and through its window of micro-credit which is financed by the capital market and commercial banks. It is closely connected with the Citibank, one of the largest financing organisations in the world. Along with Dr Yunus, some former or present executives of Kane Property Company, GuideStar, Citibank, Microsoft, Citigroup, Calvert Funds and similar other large corporations and financing organisations are on the board of this Foundation. One can guess the power and brokering capacity of this Foundation from the fact that it is closely connected with the Clinton Global Initiative from the days of its inception. Former US president Clinton recommended Yunus for the Nobel award in 2005 for the second time though this move of Clinton went beyond all norms. Because Clinton was not empowered to make such a recommendation as Amartya Sen had been. While this act of recommendation was under way the GFUSA and Citibank joined hands as partner of the Clinton Initiative to jointly invest US $ 50 million and, if possible, $ 300 million, as micro-credit. This Foundation has a special role in mobilising capital, expanding GB-model micro credit all over the world, building up image of micro-credit and its guru, and making public relations work. There is a similar type of power brokering house of Dr Yunus in Australia to mobilise international power.

Undoubtedly, Dr Yunus has become a blue-eyed boy of the corporate world for his excellent performance and innovations in the field of investment and marketing of finance capital and technology among the poor through micro-credit. The Third World is not a risk-free area for investment. The defaulting industrialists in Bangladesh are a stark example of this. There are other relevant questions that need to be addressed before an investment is made. The risk of socio-political upheavals in the country in question, the carrying capacity of the economy, the market size, etc demand serious attention. Dr Yunus has a ‘magic wand’ that creates an ensured market, an ensured return, an almost full return of the capital, an instant return, and all these he has done with his ‘panacea’ –– micro-credit. This is what makes him dear to the corporate world and the corporate world is paying him back with laurels, awards, honours, etc. and facilitating his job by building up a larger-than-life image of the salesman. Thus, the underfed, undernourished multitude is fed with the fairy tales of friendship between the ‘banker to the poor’ and the spellbound kings, queens, presidents and first ladies. The Nobel Peace Prize to Dr Yunus has reaffirmed this fact only.

P.S.: Patrick Bond (Director, Centre for Civil Society (South Africa) and author of Looting Africa: The Economics of Exploitation) repored in the South African daily The Mercury (Oct. 25, 2006): ‘So why then did Norway’s Nobel committee give Yunus the award? Colleagues in Oslo point out to me that he was strongly supported by friends in the Norwegian elite, including a former top finance ministry bureaucrat and leading officials of the national phone company, Telenor, which owns 62% of lucrative GrameenPhone, a company in control of 60% of Bangladesh’s cellphone market.

Omar Tarek Chowdhury (tarekomar@agnionline.com) translates pro-people political literature and contributes to alternative periodicals and newspapers.
 
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What about India's poor -

Why Is Nobody Screaming Now?

By Aditi Munot

14 January, 2009
Countercurrents.org

Every time any subsidy or holiday is given to farmers in India, industry makes a big fuss. Industry and the urban population at large, is perpetually complaining about the tax exemption provided to farmers, the free electricity doled out, the subsidies offered in education and other walks of life to farmers.

There was a big hue and cry about the 60000 crore waiver accorded to farmers’ loans. All urbanites were, and are still fretting about how these bloody useless farmers get everything for free. Industry complains about paying the maximum tax and never getting any benefit in return. Salaried populace grouse about being honest tax payers and seeing their hard earned money being spent on worthless farmers. There is a rage against these farmers on account of the belief that India’s growth and progress is coming about because of the sincere, urban tax payers. Infrastructure and other developments are being done only because of industry’s contribution. Then why are these free-bees being bestowed with so many benefits? Tell them to work hard, pay taxes and make a living.

But every time industry gets subsidies, tax holidays, exemptions, special economic zones, export zones, 20000 crore waivers- it seems a rightful take. Industry gets land for free or at throw away prices and that appears a necessity. Villagers are forced to give up hours of electricity supply, decent water supply for the sake of industry and the big malls and shopping plazas and hotels in cities and that makes complete sense. All infrastructure spends, developments are done in a select few urban areas – but that feels like the obvious.

No one screams when the IT industry is given a tax holiday. Companies making 20-30% profits do not pay a single paisa tax but people are complaining about poor farmers holding less than an acre of land, unable to sustain a basic living not paying tax! An Ispat runs on public money, gets interest rates lowered by banks, and is still not repaying principal amount but the farmers are crooks and thugs! The automobile industry gets booster after booster of reforms and waivers but the loan waivers of farmers being forced to commit suicide seems unfair! A Tata threatens and gets its way, a Reliance loots and gets away, a Satyam frauds but needs a bailout on public money, an Enron cheats and moves on but we cannot accept small little benefits being passed on to farmers! The US Big Three bailout seems imperative for the Indian auto ancillary industry but the Indian farmers’ bailout unnecessary!

There is a need to recognise that over 70% of India’s population depends on farming and related activities for their survival. It is important for these people to be able to make a decent living and have access to all facilities and amenities. The country’s progress is possible and sensible when all sectors and segments of society develop and grow together. The farmers do not want bailouts- these are temporary quick fixes. They want permanent solutions to their problems. They need support like industry for fair price, irrigation, elimination of middlemen, access to market, a hassle free system and so on.

It is time the urbanites stops discriminating against farmers and the rural populace. It is time to understand that every Indian has an equal right to a decent standard of living and a share of the developments and growth taking place in the country.

Why Is Nobody Screaming Now? By Aditi Munot
 
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It is these bloody Indian pretending to compliment BD but are really behind the scenes holding us back which them makes them so hypocritical and ugly. Who the hell cares what the bloody Indian think of us.


you would argue what have i to do with this thread,its a bit off the tpic but i still cant refrain myself from saying this.

you say "Who the hell cares what the bloody Indian think of us." and yet all the posts that i have gone through in this forum your articles always seem to care the most about what the indians are thinking and doing.
ok no offence to you sir
i have always thought if a country wants to progress it must first stop the blame game and look inside itself why is it that you are allowing the indians to you hold you back, dosnt bangladesh have what it takes to emerge high as a nation without the help of other parties.

sir i am sorry if you find my post offensive.
 
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It is these bloody Indian pretending to compliment BD but are really behind the scenes holding us back which them makes them so hypocritical and ugly. Who the hell cares what the bloody Indian think of us. Indians do not like BD's who stand up and tell the truth. When the Indians do not have an answer they rant and rave like lunatics and hooligans.
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Your language tells a lot about you my dear friend. I am sure you must be having some valid reasons to use such language. Let others have their own views. You don't have to use ****** language against entire nation to force your views on others. We certainly like people who tell the truth. However, truth does not become more truth by calling names.

RK
 
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Read the new thread about Paranoid Indians before you jump to conclusions.
 
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Read the new thread about Paranoid Indians before you jump to conclusions.
You quote articles written by Yellow papers and tell us that Indians are Paranoid! Please, You have disgraced WRITERS, With Your Foul Language! You are a Disgrace Sadly Mr Munshi, I Request the Moderators to take notice of this Biased and Derogatory remarks by Mr Munshi!

Mr Moscow, You are right, People Like Mr Munshi are like certain animals which harass Cows eating Grass. These Animals dont eat the grass, neither do they let the Cow eat the Grass! Blame is thy Name Oh Game!
 
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Calling someone a lunatic and a hooligan is foul language but being called an animal isn't? I think my book has these Indians worried that the truth about their evil designs is out. Now they are trying to censor me. LOL.
 
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Once some muslim approached Rabindranath Tagore, and asked him to write some song for Muslim as he was the poet for all. He replied, Muslim needs to find their own poet. Eventually Hindus thought, he was the poet of them..
But the fun part is, everybody got mad when Tagore himself introduced his own religion..
Till this days, people of all religion find peace in his spiritual songs, God knows who he wrote them for..
Hey who cares..??? we all got them.. right????

Is Dr. Yunus any different than this???
 
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Read the new thread about Paranoid Indians before you jump to conclusions.


Dear Mr Munshi,

My humble submission to you to cool down and then debate any issue. I can understand your whole sale anger against Indians. I have no problem in your getting angry. However, still there are better ways to express anger. You argue your points and we have no problem in that.

RK
 
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You quote articles written by Yellow papers and tell us that Indians are Paranoid! Please, You have disgraced WRITERS, With Your Foul Language! You are a Disgrace Sadly Mr Munshi, I Request the Moderators to take notice of this Biased and Derogatory remarks by Mr Munshi!

Mr Moscow, You are right, People Like Mr Munshi are like certain animals which harass Cows eating Grass. These Animals dont eat the grass, neither do they let the Cow eat the Grass! Blame is thy Name Oh Game!

Idiots and pygmies just crave attention.

Deprive them of that and they are back to where they belong. Some pygmies just feel that talking of India will make people take notice of their pygmy selves. The fact is no one cares for them irrespective of the hand on the cookie jar.

I just hope the new BD government gives due punishment to all these corrupt fanatics who loot the poor Bangladeshis and make BD the most corrupt country on the face of the earth.
 
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