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Has Pak Army got a "War Plan" or are they "Cowards"?

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Then go create a militia and go fight for Kashmir. That’s not how a war works. Military action is not an option unless you want Pakistan to collapse. We can’t afford or win a war by Jazba-I-Imani and a weak economy.

Its not about a weak economy, status quo in kashmir has been changed, Kashmiris have been caged for more than 20 days without food and water, ethnic cleansing is ready to take place, world only understands language of force. If Pakistan has survived against all odds during these years, what makes you think Pakistan will collapse???
 
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It's easy to say that they are cowards, but we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. The Pakistani Army is a very powerful institution, whatever they are planning will be the best decision. We should do our part and support them, the least we can do is be grateful for their scarifies and not call them cowards.
 
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I think we're delibrately trying to skip over a fact which we have come to unofficially and subcounciously realize since quite a while now.

And that fact is that Pakistan Army lacks the capacity to launch and sustain any successful offensive on India. Pak army is not equipped to meet the challenge which now lies ahead in the form of a pottential war. And we can't blame it on the Army entirely either. Economy is today's world biggest reality, we screwed up our economy and our economy is in no shape to support a war fighting effort of such a large scale, of the scale which we're talking about i.e military action against India.

Now Pakistan has no shortcut. What we're seeing today is the result of decades of negligence and incompetence. India is a major world power now. The only utility of Pak Army today is that we can hope to defend mailand Pakistan and repell India in case India takes the initiative.

The state of affairs is not good. Being a Muslim, we always fought wars and won them with our 'ghairat e Eemani'. Today, we dont have ghairat nor Eeman so it comes down to worldly means in which we are not even in the touching distance.

Let's admit that India has outplayed Pakistan with this recent maneuver. How Pakistan adapts and improvises, is a separate question but they played this card at the perfect time.
 
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Very disappointed by the speech our coward PM just delivered.All he talked about was his previous efforts for earning some political credit and what his next useless efforts will be.
IK maybe good for fighting against corruption but apparently he is not good at all for dealing with war like situations.He just want to avoid military or any kind of action despite knowing we have no other option left.He is just waiting for india to next attack on azad Kashmir after ethnically cleaning IOK or blocking our rivers in IOK.
 
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Koi iss ko border pe bhejo lathi de ke.
Respect your fauj you war monger they know better than you.
They had so many wars. Some of them were meaningless too. In afghan and foreign soil. They know situation. They don't fight to loose. they know way ahead you just so your duty.
 
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Regardless of emotional drive, Army is not decision maker rather Government and that too had to act in view of certain elements and forces involved. Before any offensive, one has to build a proper ground, diplomatic relations, favourable economy, allies into confidence and am atmosphere of having the right to do so. Starting a debate on the basis of personal judgment and calling for judgment about the Army, is a starting point of clueless take while rightly playing into hostile hands. Pakistani people themselves are divided to support military due to personal liking and disliking on the basis of political differences yet all demands everything from State. Instead of judging military on bias as such and demanding war, introspect ourselves and must support Armed Forces by having fate.

It's so disappointing and unfortunate to see as such. Let the State handle the matter and not to treat this issue like we are going to take down some street bully. Calculate implications, aftermath, facts and conditions.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pak-...-thwart-any-aggression-coas-gen-bajwa.632941/

Here, thwarting aggression doesn't mean that India will conventionally attack us so then we will respond. Aggression word is for every offensive like be it at IB,, LoC or even within Kashmir. Not to forget that our Kashmir doctrine wouldn't change and COAS words are clear in regard to India offensive. All is done to make proper grounds and the world be informed. However, people failing to understand the core value of this statement, seems like want an email outlining Pakistan's plans by COAS himself. Or, bravado on media or through statements like our enemy.

Why everyone forgets the post Pulwama details? We clarified that will retaliate of any misadventure and then, not just shot them down alongwith Indian ego but also, IoK witnessed our presence.

If anyone is still demoralized and can't raise, must stay away from such topics. I have to say this because of unwanted and cheap criticism of our Military.

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