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Haryana's shameful social heritage


Sukhbir Siwach, TNN, Aug 28, 2010, 02.05pm IST





It was a national debate on a news channel. Tempers were running high, so were the decibels. The subject was explosive - Haryana's khaps and their diktats. In the midst of this charged atmosphere, a voice rose above the rest, silencing them all. Seema, a law graduate and resident of Karora village, made an allegation that changed the course of the debate. Her brother had been executed for marrying a woman from the same gotra, but that was not what Seema wanted to talk about on the primetime show. It was another shameful reality of Haryana villages she wanted to expose - incest.

"Khaps should look into their homes before passing fatwas on lovers and crying hoarse about honour. Incest is rampant in the state and virtually every home is affected. Where is the honour anyway ?" she screamed.

Early this week, the state was shocked when a pregnant girl was strangled by her parents and her body dumped on the outskirts of Bahadurgarh in Jhajjar district. Her crime: she was reportedly having an affair with her brother-in-law and her vengeful elder sister had complained to their parents.

In another embarrassing case earlier this year, a farmer in his early 50s developed a sexual relation with his 30-year-old daughter-in-law in a village in Kaithal district. Their liaison continued for almost a year. The matter even reached the village panchayat, which ordered separation of the two unlikely partners so that the woman could go back to her husband.

And only last month, Sonepat was jolted by the gruesome murder of two minor girls, just 12 and 14. They were killed and their bodies flung in a canal by their uncles and grandmother after their "affair" with a cousin was exposed. The police said the kin of the victims were enraged when they allegedly caught the minors getting intimate with their cousin. In Yamunanagar, a girl complained to the police that her father-in-law had raped her just a few months after her marriage.

These are not isolated incidents: incest is reportedly a real part of life in rural Haryana. "It's a menace nobody wants to talk about. Even the elders are setting a bad example, " says D R Chaudhary, member of the Haryana Administrative Reforms Commission. The elders, predictably, blame this perversion on the growing sway of the west over the state's youth.

When Kurukshetra-based Ramesh Kumar's daughter married a close relative, he blamed it on urban influence. Now he is fighting a legal battle to have the marriage declared null and void, terming it a contravention of the provisions of the Hindu Marriage Act, 1955. The mothers of the newly-wed couple were apparently related, being granddaughters of the same person.

The incidence of incest may be higher in rural areas. "Social mores in villages are different. People here are very conservative and there is no scope for interaction between men and women and boys and girls outside their homes. So, they often end up having relationships with members of their accessible, extended family, " says Balbir Singh, a social activist in Fatehabad district.
Experts believe that such relationships have survived behind closed doors for many years. But given the modern means of communication and the proliferation of the media, the skeletons are now tumbling out of family cupboards.


The youth, interestingly, believe that incest is a traditional practice and not a new reality. "Yeh to hame virasat mein mili hai (incest is a part of our tradition), " says Naresh Kumar, a villager in Rohera in Kaithal district. Sociologists, in turn, say that the ethnic history of the region is full of such instances.

"In the pre-Independence era, in some parts of north India, the father-in-law almost had the right to physical relations with a daughter-in-law, and in most cases the female was not in a position to resist much. The very young husband also had no say in the matter. Widows would routinely be married to a brother of the dead husband. Sharing of the wife by brothers was also not uncommon, " says Ravinder Kaur, a professor at IIT-Delhi.


What adds to this problem in Haryana is its skewed *** ratio caused by rampant female foeticide. "Its effects are now being felt on intimate relationships within and without the family. The shortage of marriageable women can have many unintended consequences, especially when only one out of four men find a bride (as in the case of Haryana) in their own community, " adds Kaur.

Kumar's 35-year-old nephew, Roshan, is yet to get any offers for marriage. "We are at a loss, wondering what to do, " says Kumar. A growing army of bachelors has become a problem in the state, leading to more illicit relations.

Yet, there seems little the government and social organisations can do about this. Haryana has not seen any strong social movement in recent years and there are very few NGOs working on such issues. While a Haryana court was quick (it took three years) to deliver the death penalty to five khap members accused in the sensational murder of Manoj and Babli in March this year, it took a Bhiwani court around five years to give its verdict in a shocking case of incest that surfaced almost a decade ago.
In a letter to Bhiwani senior superintendent of police, an 18-year-old girl spoke of how her father and cousin exploited her sexually for seven months. "My father used to **** me. Not only this, my uncle and his son too sexually assaulted me, " stated the girl.

"My mother was usually sent to sleep in another house and I was made to sleep with my father. My mother was not aware of all this. When I told my boyfriend and he objected, my father and cousin beat him up and also got a false case registered against him. When I threatened to go to the police, I was locked up, " she wrote in the letter.

It was only after the girl said she would tell her mother that she was released from her confinement. The girl then ran away with her boyfriend and a case of abduction was slapped on the boy. Nobody knows where the couple is today.

Chilling tales of incest and abuse have been pouring in from all over the state. Inquiries reveal that physical relationship with a husband's brother is not considered 'unusual. ' "Such relations are not objected to. They are considered a family's 'internal affair', " says Prem Singh, a farmer-leader from Kaithal.

In a study conducted by the UNICEF in 2001 to gauge the context of abortions involving 83 adolescent girls in the age group of 10 to 19 years in Rohtak district, it was found that incest was a common cause. "It was responsible for pregnancies in 16 per cent of the cases. We have even had cases of girls getting pregnant through their kin, including fathers and brothers, " says Sonia Trikha, who's associated with the UNICEF. Many feel the situation has worsened in the last decade.

Leaders of gotra-based khap panchayats blame the law for protecting those who are guilty of incest. "A scheduled caste girl had run away with a boy from her family. Later, they married and even got police protection, " says Badan Singh, leader of the Kalayat khap. Another prominent leader, Om Parkash Dhankar, president of the Dhankhar khap, complains about new social trends: "Illicit relationships are on the rise. Even a Supreme Court ruling spoke of permitting live-in relationship without marriage. "

But Seema blames the khaps for shifting the focus from the real problems. "The problem, " she says, "is not of love marriages, or marriages within gotras and villages, but incest. Marrying out of choice is not a crime, incest is. Khap leaders should be addressing the problem of incest and check this evil instead of hounding people who are in love. "




INCEST IN MYTHOLOGY


If you thought Greek tragedies such as Odeipus Rex were embarrassing in their details of incest, our own epics and mythological texts are no less. They, in fact, abound with instances where men and women have conjugated with close kin. For instance, in the Mahabharata, Arjuna was married to Subhadra, the daughter of his aunt Rohini. Then there is the union of Yama with his twin sister Yami;Manu, son of Vivasvat, and his sister Sraddha;Prajapati and his daughter Ushas;Pushan and his sister Surya;Sukra and his three sisters;Satrajita and his 10 sisters;Nahusha and his sister Viraja. Purukutsa's queen Narmada after her husband's death obtained a son through her own brother

WHY IN RURAL HARYANA?

Skewed *** ratio; 860 girls for 1,000 boys

Very conservative society;girls and women are allowed to speak openly with only close relatives

A large number of girls and women don't work outside their homes

Social resistance to love marriages

Read more: Incest: Haryana's shameful social heritage - India - The Times of India Incest: Haryana's shameful social heritage - India - The Times of India
 
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Jana, while I am reading the article tell me something-How come you always find negative articles about India? Nothing positive worth posting going on in that part of the world?
 
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Jana, while I am reading the article tell me something-How come you always find negative articles about India? Nothing positive worth posting going on in that part of the world?

It is our duty to expose India while you have the duty to expose sins of Pakistan. So lets stick to our job descriptions and don't complain.
 
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Alongwith Khap panchayats law unto thyself diktats, this is a real issue facing Haryana. A skewed ***-ration and conservative society is the primary cause.

But I dont think many of the cases of incest mentioned in the article will be considered as incest in Pakistan or amongst Muslim societies. I believe first-cousin marriage is pretty common in most communities.
 
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It is our duty to expose India while you have the duty to expose sins of Pakistan. So lets stick to our job descriptions and don't complain.

Dont use "our" as I dont believe you speak for everyone of your countrymen here. And if thats your job description, I feel sorry for you. It aint mine.
 
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BBC News | South Asia | India's hidden incest

India's hidden incest
By South Asia Correspondent Daniel Lak

Close-knit family life in India masks an alarming amount of sexual abuse of children and teenage girls by family members, a new report suggests.

Daniel Lak speaks to women from the report who have suffered **** at the hands of male relatives
Delhi organisation RAHI said 76% of respondents to its survey had been abused when they were children - 40% of those by a family member.

The report suggests that disbelief, denial and cover-up to preserve the family reputation is often put before the individual child.

Women who gave evidence to RAHI spoke of the nightmare of abuse that haunts them still.

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"Every time my parents went out to a party the bastard used to do it," said one.

Another said: "When I told people in my family about the abuse there was hostility, contempt and anger targeted at me - I became an outcast."

RAHI founder Anjua Gupta said she set up the organisation because she believed sexual abuse was rampant in Indian families and no one was doing anything about it.

"When I started working in this area people used to say 'Where are the Indian statistics?'. It was thought of as a Western phenomenon.

"One of the reasons there hasn't been any data collection is because it is not considered to be an Indian problem."


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The report, Voices from the Silent Zone, suggests that nearly three-quarters of upper and middle class Indian women are abused by a family member - more than often an uncle, a cousin or an elder brother.

Disbelief, denial and cover-up

Incest and child sexual abuse occurs everywhere.

Psychiatrist Achal Baghat says the particular problem in India is that the concept of family is almost sacred, and abuse, if it happens, is met with disbelief.

"I think there is a great myth about Indian family systems being supportive," he says.

"What do you do if you're the mother in a family where the child is being abused? You do not have that much power to do anything about the abuse.

"Generally there is this thing about harming the name of the family. This need to prevent the family being laughed at leads to a lot of cover-ups."

Women on a pedestal

Activists in the field say the position of women in India is another problem. Society puts them on a pedestal as mothers and wives, but doesn't allow for their protection from domestic abuse.


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Voices from the Silent Zone pinpoints another problem facing victims of abuse in India - the complete absence of any structure outside the family to help with abuse.

Achal Baghat says he often faces the grimmest of choices when considering how to help the victim.

"What is there if not the family? Where are the other support systems? There aren't any. There might be a few NGOs working in India - but can they really cope?

"The juvenile homes, the social support system is so lacking and so insensitive to the children, that I wouldn't be sure what is worse - to stay with an abusive family, or the environment the system would put them in."

Changing the law

In India, there is no specific law covering sexual abuse of children by strangers, let alone by family members. The legal definition of **** calls for proof that the rapist actually penetrated a victim, even a young child.


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Judges have even said that it is impossible for fathers to **** their daughters, despite evidence to the contrary.

In the end, all Indian counsellors and activists can do to help victims of abuse is convince them that nothing has been their fault; that they are a survivor of a damaging, but not necessarily fatal experience, and they can continue to live life - never forgetting what happened to them, but getting on with it.

Everyone who works with victims and survivors of abuse agrees that awareness begins in the schoolyard. But in a profoundly conservative society like India, raising such sensitive issues in school would be controversial.

The chances that more than half of India's schoolgirls have experienced or will experience sexual abuse remain very high.

Family facts of the abused

* 68% were living in nuclear families
* 16% in semi-joint families (nuclear and grandparents)
* 15% in joint families (extended)

Mothers of the abused

Despite common perception that the mothers of abused children were working, the report said that of those surveyed who said they were abused, 60% of mothers were housewives and 40% were employed.
 
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Jana, while I am reading the article tell me something-How come you always find negative articles about India? Nothing positive worth posting going on in that part of the world?

Watching Indian obsession with Pakistan. When see so many anti Pakistan articles and news posted by Indians. I don't think it is something bad if we also post one or two such news about India.

It is better if you check the attitude of your countrymen before accusing Jana.

:agree:
 
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Jana, while I am reading the article tell me something-How come you always find negative articles about India? Nothing positive worth posting going on in that part of the world?

Hi roobies its not about negativity. Social issues about our country are posted by our own people on this forum aimed at highlighting for awareness.

About this thread i did not like the word incest so i dint mention it.

This news catches my attention due to Haryana. Seriously i was interested to know why Haryana
 
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Hi roobies its not about negativity. Social issues about our country are posted by our own people on this forum aimed at highlighting for awareness.

About this thread i did not like the word incest so i dint mention it.

This news catches my attention due to Haryana. Seriously i was interested to know why Haryana

Jana, although really I have never seen you post something positive about India, I do believe you about your intentions.

To answer your query, first of all, the article is pretty spot on. Lack of interaction between opposite sexes due to the conservative nature of the society and a preference for male child in a macho society leading to a skewed *** ratio is the main cause. A few years back there was another shameful incident where a promising junior state wrestler from Haryana was raped and killed by her own uncle. The society is to blame along with the lack of education.

Another insight from me into the matter - these sort of regressive incidents in Haryana usually happen in central and southern regions of the state where incidentally the Jats are in majority and the society is less educated. Northern Haryana area bordering Punjab is far liberal and educated.
 
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Watching Indian obsession with Pakistan. When see so many anti Pakistan articles and news posted by Indians. I don't think it is something bad if we also post one or two such news about India.

It is better if you check the attitude of your countrymen before accusing Jana.

:agree:

Was I talking to you? Before you try and play hero again, let me tell you that I have enough of a rapport with her to ask her a query. And I dont think she had a problem with me asking her a genuine query.

And please dont use stupid logic like "You guys do the same!" When somebody asks an individual query respond as an individual and only for yourself.
 
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To answer your query, first of all, the article is pretty spot on. Lack of interaction between opposite sexes due to the conservative nature of the society and a preference for male child in a macho society leading to a skewed *** ratio is the main cause. A few years back there was another shameful incident where a promising junior state wrestler from Haryana was raped and killed by her own uncle. The society is to blame along with the lack of education.

Another insight from me into the matter - these sort of regressive incidents in Haryana usually happen in central and southern regions of the state where incidentally the Jats are in majority and the society is less educated. Northern Haryana area bordering Punjab is far liberal and educated.

Balance of ratio between opposite genders is important due to many things and its imbalance leads to many problems.


rest i can not comment directly on this practice in Haryana because i dont know how much percentage of population there consider it ok.

What is the literacy rate among Jats in this region?
 
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Balance of ratio between opposite genders is important due to many things and its imbalance leads to many problems.


rest i can not comment directly on this practice in Haryana because i dont know how much percentage of population there consider it ok.

What is the literacy rate among Jats in this region?

You're right. *** ratio plays a very important role. For eg. take Kerala, they have more girls than boys. And there would hardly be such an incident over there. And also, there's a solid link between education/literacy rate and *** ratio. Kerala has 100% literacy rate and hence a very good *** ratio. So is teh case with many NE states.

Literacy rate amongst Jats wont be higher than the national average. say around 55-60% for men. But more than just literacy rate its the extent of their education and their thinking that matters. Most of the would be just school passouts with a predominantly rural lifestyle.

And Its very hard to say how many consider it ok. For society's sake I hope its isnt a big number.
 
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This type of shameful act they do and then when other people have marriage in the same gotra the defend it in the name of the culture they are biggest example of hypocrisy.
:angry::angry:

Another insight from me into the matter - these sort of regressive incidents in Haryana usually happen in central and southern regions of the state where incidentally the Jats are in majority and the society is less educated. Northern Haryana area bordering Punjab is far liberal and educated.

@RobbieS excatly on the point
It is the same state which had produced India's first women astronaut Kalpana Chawla. she was born in karnal a city which is bordering punjab
 
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But I dont think many of the cases of incest mentioned in the article will be considered as incest in Pakistan or amongst Muslim societies. I believe first-cousin marriage is pretty common in most communities.

What do you mean by that ? In Islam, the first cousin marriage is permitted. The father-daughter, sister-brother, mother-son, uncle-niece, aunt-nephew is not allowed. I was always asked the question by Hindus and Sikhs in university that how can Muslim marry first cousins since they are considered brother and sister in Hindu culture. In these cases it is Hindus that are themselves breaking their own social taboos.
 
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