Happy Raam Navmi to all

[JohnyD]

thats because Hinduism is not a religion............

Hinduism is not strictly a religion. It is based on the practice of Dharma, the code of life. The original name of Hindu Dharma is Sanatana Dharma, or "universal religion."

Unlike other religions, Hindu Dharma did not originate from a single person, a single book, or at a single point in time. The foundations of this oldest surviving religion were laid by ancient rishis (sages), who taught their disciples the eternal principles of life they had discovered through their meditations.

Hindu Dharma is essentially a religion of principles rather than persons. Since Hinduism has no founder, anyone who practices Dharma can call himself a Hindu. Statistically, there are over 700 million Hindus, concentrated mainly in India and Nepal.

 

[Adwitiya]

your pirzada saab the 10th Avatar of Vishnu is called "Kali" and i am not saying but some peoples say Prophet Muhammad S.A.W was that avatar because the predictions/signs given about the 10th Avatar were fullfilled during the time of Prophet Muhammad S.A.W.W

I am not going to argue neither defend this but i have read it quite a lot of time with detail (just a note ...... no need to reply to this post)

yes some people claim that but there are also counter claims..... but lets not get into that can be a trouble.

 

[qsaark]

AJ, I have studied hinduism, and not through Hindu books, but from Muslim books, compiled by Muslims Soofia and scholars. Please do not get confused with the word 'god' or 'deota'.

god IS NOT EQUAL TO God

Their 'gods' are more like our 'angels', and 'prophets'. I wish I could post some kalam from 'Kabir' who talked about monotheism or what we call 'Touheed'.

As far as my understanding and limited knowledge is concerned, the Hinduism is also a monotheistic religion, the confusion is because of the names and the terminologies.

I'll also add that their (Hindu's) deities are even considered 'aspect' of one supreme being (Oum, or Allah). As you know, for Allah, there are ninety nine (99) names, and each name is one individual 'aspect' or 'quality' of one supreme being (Allah). Rahman is Allah, so is Raheem, so is Jabbar, so is Qahhar, so is Ali, so is Wakeel and so on and so forth. Now read the following passage from Rigveda 1.164.46:

Indraṃ mitraṃ varuṇamaghnimāhuratho divyaḥ sa suparṇo gharutmān,
ekaṃ sad viprā bahudhā vadantyaghniṃ yamaṃ mātariśvānamāhuḥ

"Theycall him Indra, Mitra, Varuṇa, Agni, and he is heavenly nobly-winged Garutmān.
To what is One, sages give many a title they call it Agni, Yama, Mātariśvan."

Now what do you say? Isn't it the same concept we have for Allah's ninety nine names?

Om (Oum) in their religion is Allah in ours. There concept of 'trimurti', which is represented by Om, in puranic hindusim is something like the Christian trinity. Trimurti is a cosmic functions of creation, maintenance, and destruction are personified by the forms of Brahmā the creator, Vishnu the maintainer or preserver, and Śhiva the destroyer or transformer. Again, you'll find similar 'aspect' for Allah in his ninety nine names.

Wallah aalam bissawab (Allah knows better).

 

[Hyde]

If you go by actual defination of religon no it is not and if you go by like what we say in everyday life yes it is....

Actually hinduism roots to time period when there were hardly any religions present so there was hardly any need to devise a word equal what we have religion today. though some people translate it to dharm but literally dharm has very diffrent meaning. Hinduism is more of way of life.

The term hindu comes from the river sindhu and denotes people living on the side of sindhu. so we people came to be known as hindus over the period of time.

Your right, the term hindu comes from the river sindhu (the inhabitants of that river were called Hindu in early period) and hinduism is a way of life and not a religion.

Also the word Christian does not come from the christians........ there was no word like christian during the time of Prophet Jesus (Peace be Upon him). Other peoples started calling the followers of Jesus Christ as "Christians" in early period

 

[Adwitiya]

so there are gods who come to earth to take care of matters assigned to them.
and the view on who is the god of gods is divided within hinduism.

ok i have got it till here. now lets leave the supreme god aside and move on.

how many other gods are there other than Shiv, Vishnu and Durga?
and does each of these gods come to earth many times lik Vishnu came in form of Ram and Krishna?

and i dont know wat Kaliyung is.

thanks in advance

No sir actually they come to earth to remove the evil from the heart of people. the duties assigned to them are divine ranging from maintainance of deeds of all individuals to the assignment of heaven and hell.

No each god do not come to earth and there is no specific principal according to which gods reincarnated.


Actual in hinduism the entire life cycle of the world is divided into 4
Satyug which is the yug when everything is according to god
Treta yug when things get worse
Dwapar yug more worse
and last kalyug here the condition are the worst and gods become least powerful. In the end of the kalyug there would no relation left except for man and women.

and after kalyug again satyug comes back.

This all happens in one single day of brahma year whose life is of 100 bhrama years which is equal to 311,040,000,000,000 years or 1 mahakalp. after brahma regenerates himself and the cycle continues.


Interestingly we are on the mid day of the 51st year of bhrama

 

[JohnyD]

Guys, did you notice one thing? No Chinese is interested in wishing Indian on such occasion or wanting to know about our religion or culture..its Pakistan/India..no matter how much our relationship is stretched we still have some soft heart for each other..any I can make it out from many threads running in this forum..Chinese are so selfish and we are so emotional....you only conclude what I am trying to convey

 

[Adwitiya]

AJ, I have studied hinduism, and not through Hindu books, but from Muslim books, compiled by Muslims Soofia and scholars. Please do not get confused with the word 'god' or 'deota'.

god IS NOT EQUAL TO God

Their 'gods' are more like our 'angels', and 'prophets'. I wish I could post some kalam from 'Kabir' who talked about monotheism or what we call 'Touheed'.

As far as my understanding and limited knowledge is concerned, the Hinduism is also a monotheistic religion, the confusion is because of the names and the terminologies.

Om in their religion is Allah in ours. There concept of 'trimurti', which is represented by Om, in puranic hindusim is something like the Christian trinity.

Very well said but if we try to equate then they can be equated more to angels then prophets because they were considered divine.

No offense to hindu members thats my interpretation.

 

[rangbaaz]

AJ, I have studied hinduism, and not through Hindu books, but from Muslim books, compiled by Muslims Soofia and scholars. Please do not get confused with the word 'god' or 'deota'.

god IS NOT EQUAL TO God

Their 'gods' are more like our 'angels', and 'prophets'. I wish I could post some kalam from 'Kabir' who talked about monotheism or what we call 'Touheed'.

As far as my understanding and limited knowledge is concerned, the Hinduism is also a monotheistic religion, the confusion is because of the names and the terminologies.

Om in their religion is Allah in ours. There concept of 'trimurti', which is represented by Om, in puranic hindusim is something like the Christian trinity.

this very much makes sense now, thanks bro!

 

[thebrownguy]

Excellent post qsaark!! Well done!! I dunno about others, thats how i interpret my religion too.
Thanks

Anyways, Jai Shree Ram!!!
Wishing everyone a happy Ram Namvi.

 

[ajpirzada]

No sir actually they come to earth to remove the evil from the heart of people. the duties assigned to them are divine ranging from maintainance of deeds of all individuals to the assignment of heaven and hell.

No each god do not come to earth and there is no specific principal according to which gods reincarnated.


Actual in hinduism the entire life cycle of the world is divided into 4
Satyug which is the yug when everything is according to god
Treta yug when things get worse
Dwapar yug more worse
and last kalyug here the condition are the worst and gods become least powerful. In the end of the kalyug there would no relation left except for man and women.

and after kalyug again satyug comes back.

This all happens in one single day of brahma year whose life is of 100 bhrama years which is equal to 311,040,000,000,000 years or 1 mahakalp. after brahma regenerates himself and the cycle continues.


Interestingly we are on the mid day of the 51st year of bhrama

yes i meant the same when i said 'matters assigned to them'. thanks for making it more clearer.

ok. now coming to names which always confuse me.
Ram and Krishna are reincarnation of Vishnu. can you tell me some other names and if they are reincarnations of gods or gods themselves? so that i dont get confused when my indian friends here in UK mention them to each other.
also who is Om? god or reincarnation of one of the gods

 

[ajpirzada]

AJ, I have studied hinduism, and not through Hindu books, but from Muslim books, compiled by Muslims Soofia and scholars. Please do not get confused with the word 'god' or 'deota'.

god IS NOT EQUAL TO God

Their 'gods' are more like our 'angels', and 'prophets'. I wish I could post some kalam from 'Kabir' who talked about monotheism or what we call 'Touheed'.

As far as my understanding and limited knowledge is concerned, the Hinduism is also a monotheistic religion, the confusion is because of the names and the terminologies.

Om in their religion is Allah in ours. There concept of 'trimurti', which is represented by Om, in puranic hindusim is something like the Christian trinity.

so Om comes first and then others who can be compared with angels.
am i right in saying that.

 

[Adwitiya]

yes i meant the same when i said 'matters assigned to them'. thanks for making it more clearer.

ok. now coming to names which always confuse me.
Ram and Krishna are reincarnation of Vishnu. can you tell me some other names and if they are reincarnations of gods or gods themselves? so that i dont get confused when my indian friends here in UK mention them to each other.
also who is Om? god or reincarnation of one of the gods

There are actually many incarnations. in fact we have 10 incarnations for more vishnu of which Ram and krishna are the most important ones. Apart from those Hanuman is the re incarnation of shiva.


Om or Aum is of paramount importance in Hinduism. This symbol is a sacred syllable representing Brahman, the impersonal Absolute of Hinduism — omnipotent, omnipresent, and the source of all manifest existence. Brahman, in itself, is incomprehensible; so a symbol becomes mandatory to help us realize the Unknowable. Om, therefore, represents both the unmanifest (nirguna) and manifest (saguna) aspects of God. That is why it is called pranava, to mean that it pervades life and runs through our prana or breath.

This is how aum is represented

It is made up of alphabet in Sanskit/hindi
99% of the recitations start with aum of what we call it as mantras. Some times i wonder if those mantras used to invoke weapons like brahmastra (equal to nukes of today) in the times of mahabharata and ramayana were kind of voice intiated vocal passwords for those weapons.


Please note there is diffrence between these 3
Here Brahman means universe...
Brahma is the god
Brahmin is a caste

 

[qsaark]

so Om comes first and then others who can be compared with angels.
am i right in saying that.

I have expanded my earlier post and tried to include the concept of a 'supreme being' and his 'aspects'.

 

[Adwitiya]

I have expanded my earlier post and tried to include the concept of a 'supreme being' and his 'aspects'.

sir thats the best post from you. totally unexpected i thought that you have great knowledge of Islam but sir really like your knowledge of hinduism also. Really appreciated.

this one is from me for u sir

 

[thebrownguy]

yes i meant the same when i said 'matters assigned to them'. thanks for making it more clearer.

ok. now coming to names which always confuse me.
Ram and Krishna are reincarnation of Vishnu. can you tell me some other names and if they are reincarnations of gods or gods themselves? so that i dont get confused when my indian friends here in UK mention them to each other.
also who is Om? god or reincarnation of one of the gods

Om is the central power, the origin of all things, in simple words, its the "head office" (pardon my example guys).
From Om originates Trimurti or 3 powers, Bramha , vishnu ,Mahesh(shiva )
They have been assigned duties to create the universe (Bramha-the creator) and manage it. In this creation system, the many gods(devtas) are created as heavenly powers along with the entire Universe as we know it.
I am not going into details, and using simple language for understanding.
The avatars are earthly forms taken by Gods to provide divine intervention to defeat evil in the world.
Now, Vishnu had 9 avatars, and Rama and Krishna were amongst them.
Some others were Narsimha, Vaaman, Parshuram (name of one of pdf members lol).
Lol, i hope my post helps, its a bit of an alphabet soup now.