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Hangor-class: Pakistan's new Submarines?

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Agosta 90b with 4 533 mm launch tubes can carry total of 16 missiles, torpedos and depth charges on board

Hangoor class has 6 533 mm tubes which mean more simultaneous launch capacity for example two tubes with torpedos to defend the sub and 4 with attack missile etc in launch mode

Not sure hangoor cLass total capacity at one time ? Which should be more than agosta 90b total of 16 ??? Guessing

Tonnage wise hangoor is twice of agosta 90b
 
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Agosta 90b with 4 533 mm launch tubes can carry total of 16 missiles, torpedos and depth charges on board

Hangoor class has 6 533 mm tubes which mean more simultaneous launch capacity for example two tubes with torpedos to defend the sub and 4 with attack missile etc in launch mode

Not sure hangoor cLass total capacity at one time ? Which should be more than agosta 90b total of 16 ??? Guessing

Tonnage wise hangoor is twice of agosta 90b

Agosta storage capacity in racks is 16, but if you carry 04 rounds in the tubes, the total rounds you carry, war load, is 20 units.

You don't carry depth charges in a submarine. I think what he meant is sea mines. They are typically 03 to a torpedo on the rack.
 
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FYI the Hangor's official specifications as per KSEW at IDEAS 2018.

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For reference, here were CSOC's specs for the S26T (export Yuan):
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10 knots seems to be surface speed and not dived ?? Not sure
Agosta 90 has 20/20 plus knots speed
 
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Agosta storage capacity in racks is 16, but if you carry 04 rounds in the tubes, the total rounds you carry, war load, is 20 units.

You don't carry depth charges in a submarine. I think what he meant is sea mines. They are typically 03 to a torpedo on the rack.

Yes

Plus carrying weapons in launch tube all the time? is it war time patrol sop before leaving the port ?
 
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Why not sindhy class subs since they have to be assigned there
 
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Yes

Plus carrying weapons in launch tube all the time? is it war time patrol sop before leaving the port ?

Doing war time, before hostilities break out, all spaces, including torpedo tubes will be used. The Torp tubes will either be dry or filled with fresh water during transit.
 
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Why not sindhy class subs since they have to be assigned there
Sindhi class submarine will be too lazy to perform her actions & might eventually allow the offensive force to rule us for 100 years like the waderas in Sindh.

Edit: it may also demand to run on Benazir Income Support Fund instead of typical Diesel.
 
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FYI the Hangor's official specifications as per KSEW at IDEAS 2018.

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For reference, here were CSOC's specs for the S26T (export Yuan):
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Thailand ordered S26 they ordered it 3 years after us and will get their first before us what we are getting is for sure not S26
 
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Thailand ordered S26 they ordered it 3 years after us and will get their first before us what we are getting is for sure not S26

i agree, the description is no rocket science. S26T is not going to be the same as hangoor. only time wil ltell true specs. may be during 2020 IDEA's we will know for sure.
 
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Sindhi class submarine will be too lazy to perform her actions & might eventually allow the offensive force to rule us for 100 years like the waderas in Sindh.

Edit: it may also demand to run on Benazir Income Support Fund instead of typical Diesel.

I take offence to your attitude both as a Pakistani & as a Sindhi. Should I spell out similar stereotype for you (whatever you may be) & for the rest of the ethnicities in Pakistan? How will you feel about that? Before you even answer let me tell you that I'll be absolutely livid at myself for being racist to anyone because this is not the nature of Sindhis. Sure we have problems with corrupt PPP regime & colonial waderas but as a nation & civilization, we are still more generous & respectful than any other ethnic group in this country.

As for the submarines, yes, they should have been classified as Sindhi Class or even Pakistan Class; with each unit named after the provinces and autonomous regions; i.e. PNS Sindh, PNS Balochistan, PNS KPK, PNS Punjab, PNS Gilgit Baltistan, PNS Azad Kashmir, etc ...

Its also high time that to call the Arabian Sea & the Indian Ocean by its ancient name; i.e. Sindhu Sagar or Sindhi Samand.
 
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I take offence to your attitude both as a Pakistani & as a Sindhi. Should I spell out similar stereotype for you (whatever you may be) & for the rest of the ethnicities in Pakistan? How will you feel about that? Before you even answer let me tell you that I'll be absolutely livid at myself for being racist to anyone because this is not the nature of Sindhis. Sure we have problems with corrupt PPP regime & colonial waderas but as a nation & civilization, we are still more generous & respectful than any other ethnic group in this country.

As for the submarines, yes, they should have been classified as Sindhi Class or even Pakistan Class; with each unit named after the provinces and autonomous regions; i.e. PNS Sindh, PNS Balochistan, PNS KPK, PNS Punjab, PNS Gilgit Baltistan, PNS Azad Kashmir, etc ...

Its also high time that to call the Arabian Sea & the Indian Ocean by its ancient name; i.e. Sindhu Sagar or Sindhi Samand.

You are absolutely right brother, Sindhi people and Sindhi culture are a matter of pride for all Pakistanis. Long live Sindh and Long live Pakistan.

I have a good inclination that the larger destroyers when they are purchased will be named after provinces or their capitals.
 
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