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[SQ8]

Sulur Airbase , Tamil Nadu .

Currently Sulur has a An32 sq and Mi-17s. what squadron could it be? 35sq is still persisting with the Type 96 I think.. perhaps that might be the first to go?

 

[Abingdonboy]

Currently Sulur has a An32 sq and Mi-17s. what squadron could it be? 35sq is still persisting with the Type 96 I think.. perhaps that might be the first to go?

What possible squadron could be the first to receive the Tejas?

AFAIK the IAF is raising an entirely new SQD for the LCA, for the first 1-2 years this SQD will remain in Bangalore (close to HAL) to address any teething issues before shifting "home" to Sulur where they are likely to be joined by the second Mk.1 LCA SQD.

 

[SQ8]

AFAIK the IAF is raising an entirely new SQD for the LCA, for the first 1-2 years this SQD will remain in Bangalore (close to HAL) to address any teething issues before shifting "home" to Sulur where they are likely to be joined by the second Mk.1 LCA SQD.

Well, I guess then Ill leave out the squadron markings for this while I play around with it.
I'm guessing I may be the only one with a simulator environment where you can fly:

PAF Current/Future: F-16(Block-52,MLU,ADF), JF-17(Block-I,II, Two seater), Mirage(IIIE/D/R/ROSE , VP,PA,ROSE),
F-7(MP,PG,Trainer variants), K-8P , Allouette, Mi-17 . J-31
Flyable as well but usually AI: C-130B/E, Il-78,Saab-2000AEW, ZDK-03, Dassault Falcon
PA: Cobra, Chetak, Mi-17

PAF Historic: Hawker Tempest/Fury, Supermarine Attacker, F-86 E/F, Martin B-57, Shenyang F-6/C, Q-5 Fantan, F-7P T-6G


IAF Current/Future: FGFA, Su-30MKI, Rafale C/B, Mirage-2000C/5, Mig-29(M/UPG), HAL Tejas mk-I, Mig-27M/UPG, Mig-21(Type-88/Bison), Jaguar IN M/S(DARIN), Chetak, Mi-17,Mi-35, Apache, Bae Hawk Mk-132

IA: Mi-17,Mi-8
IN: Sea Harrier FRS.51/ LUSH , Mig-29K, Sea King Mk-45
Also flyable but usually left to AI: Il-78, An-32, Il-38, Tu-95, P-8 Poseidon,C-130J,C-17

IAF Historic: Hawker Spitfire/Hurricane/Tempest , DH Vampire FB52, Dassault Oursgan , Mystere, Hawker Hunter F.56 ,Folland Gnat/HAL Ajeet, Mig-21 F/FL , Mig-23MF Bahadur, Mig-23BN, HAL Marut, Sukhoi Type S-22 Fitter, EE Canberra, Mig-25, Fairchild 119 Boxcar.

All over fairly well detailed and accurate area of the Indo/Pak theatre.. not just the western front but also the eastern front.

its the little things that count.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Well, I guess then Ill leave out the squadron markings for this while I play around with it.
I'm guessing I may be the only one with a simulator environment where you can fly:

PAF Current/Future: F-16(Block-52,MLU,ADF), JF-17(Block-I,II, Two seater), Mirage(IIIE/D/R/ROSE , VP,PA,ROSE),
F-7(MP,PG,Trainer variants), K-8P , Allouette, Mi-17 . J-31
Flyable as well but usually AI: C-130B/E, Il-78,Saab-2000AEW, ZDK-03, Dassault Falcon
PA: Cobra, Chetak, Mi-17

PAF Historic: Hawker Tempest/Fury, Supermarine Attacker, F-86 E/F, Martin B-57, Shenyang F-6/C, Q-5 Fantan, F-7P T-6G


IAF Current/Future: FGFA, Su-30MKI, Rafale C/B, Mirage-2000C/5, Mig-29(M/UPG), HAL Tejas mk-I, Mig-27M/UPG, Mig-21(Type-88/Bison), Jaguar IN M/S(DARIN), Chetak, Mi-17,Mi-35, Apache, Bae Hawk Mk-132

IA: Mi-17,Mi-8
IN: Sea Harrier FRS.51/ LUSH , Mig-29K, Sea King Mk-45
Also flyable but usually left to AI: Il-78, An-32, Il-38, Tu-95, P-8 Poseidon,C-130J,C-17

IAF Historic: Hawker Spitfire/Hurricane/Tempest , DH Vampire FB52, Dassault Oursgan , Mystere, Hawker Hunter F.56 ,Folland Gnat/HAL Ajeet, Mig-21 F/FL , Mig-23MF Bahadur, Mig-23BN, HAL Marut, Sukhoi Type S-22 Fitter, EE Canberra, Mig-25, Fairchild 119 Boxcar.

All over fairly well detailed and accurate area of the Indo/Pak theatre.. not just the western front but also the eastern front.

its the little things that count.
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Very nice images!

Anyway you could have an IAF PHALCON AWACS with MKI/Rafale escorts? Or IAF C-130-30Js tanking from an IAF IL-78MKI/A330 MRTT?


Also, afaik, the IAF don't have SQD markings on their planes anyway.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

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Nice work, but give FOC tejas with a re fueling probe.

 

[SQ8]

Very nice images!

Anyway you could have an IAF PHALCON AWACS with MKI/Rafale escorts? Or IAF C-130-30Js tanking from an IAF IL-78MKI/A330 MRTT?


Also, afaik, the IAF don't have SQD markings on their planes anyway.

These are all screen shots. Again, you dont get the bloom and HDR(well you can but I havent done that bit yet) that you get in DCS or otherwise.. and perhaps not the uber realistic avionics in the cockpit.. but the aircraft fly true and fight realistically.

For e.g. I can simulate a mission where essentially A combined IAF package of M2Ks, MKIs(SEAD and ESCORT) along with Jaguars performing BDA meet up with an interceptor force of F-16MLUs, JF-17s and F-7PGs over Kharian. There are simulated datalinks and AWACS as well so nothing really gets left out.

These are simulated based on variables and equations so not the best gauge but a good paper fight.. and the results are rather interesting.

The FGFA is going to be single seater as well AFAIK.

 

[Abingdonboy]

The FGFA is going to be single seater as well AFAIK.

Yes, this is almost certain at this moment in time.

These are all screen shots. Again, you dont get the bloom and HDR(well you can but I havent done that bit yet) that you get in DCS or otherwise.. and perhaps not the uber realistic avionics in the cockpit.. but the aircraft fly true and fight realistically.
For e.g. I can simulate a mission where essentially A combined IAF package of M2Ks, MKIs(SEAD and ESCORT) along with Jaguars performing BDA meet up with an interceptor force of F-16MLUs, JF-17s and F-7PGs over Kharian. There are simulated datalinks and AWACS as well so nothing really gets left out.

Wow, really cool stuff!

 

[SQ8]

Nice work, but give FOC tejas with a re fueling probe.

All wait to find a Mk.2 with the Levcons before that is added.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

All wait to find a Mk.2 with the Levcons before that is added.

There wont actually be levcons on any airforce Tejas, mark 1 FOC model will have refueling probe.

The naval one is a one seater with levcons.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

 

[RKO]

Well, I guess then Ill leave out the squadron markings for this while I play around with it.
I'm guessing I may be the only one with a simulator environment where you can fly:

PAF Current/Future: F-16(Block-52,MLU,ADF), JF-17(Block-I,II, Two seater), Mirage(IIIE/D/R/ROSE , VP,PA,ROSE),
F-7(MP,PG,Trainer variants), K-8P , Allouette, Mi-17 . J-31
Flyable as well but usually AI: C-130B/E, Il-78,Saab-2000AEW, ZDK-03, Dassault Falcon
PA: Cobra, Chetak, Mi-17

PAF Historic: Hawker Tempest/Fury, Supermarine Attacker, F-86 E/F, Martin B-57, Shenyang F-6/C, Q-5 Fantan, F-7P T-6G


IAF Current/Future: FGFA, Su-30MKI, Rafale C/B, Mirage-2000C/5, Mig-29(M/UPG), HAL Tejas mk-I, Mig-27M/UPG, Mig-21(Type-88/Bison), Jaguar IN M/S(DARIN), Chetak, Mi-17,Mi-35, Apache, Bae Hawk Mk-132

IA: Mi-17,Mi-8
IN: Sea Harrier FRS.51/ LUSH , Mig-29K, Sea King Mk-45
Also flyable but usually left to AI: Il-78, An-32, Il-38, Tu-95, P-8 Poseidon,C-130J,C-17

IAF Historic: Hawker Spitfire/Hurricane/Tempest , DH Vampire FB52, Dassault Oursgan , Mystere, Hawker Hunter F.56 ,Folland Gnat/HAL Ajeet, Mig-21 F/FL , Mig-23MF Bahadur, Mig-23BN, HAL Marut, Sukhoi Type S-22 Fitter, EE Canberra, Mig-25, Fairchild 119 Boxcar.

All over fairly well detailed and accurate area of the Indo/Pak theatre.. not just the western front but also the eastern front.

its the little things that count.
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how to get this cool stuff???

 

[The_Sidewinder]

Hi sorry to be a little off topic but my goal is to protect and serve Pakistan as a officer in the Pakistan air force as a GDP. Currently i live and study in the United States. I lived in the USA all my live, i am a pakistani citizen. I am currently in high school, my grades are above average, my grades are 84-95 i take many advance classes. I am part of many sports teams and i am currently a class officer. After i gradaute high school i will be getting my degree from a American College in Aerospace Engineering. After that what will i have to do to become a GDP as a officer in the Pakistan Air Force.

Best of luck junior. But its not the appropriate section for your post, you should post the same in members introduction section.
Alop with your grades, I hope you are hitting the gym hard, coz to be a pilot you need extreme level of physical fitness.

Anyway, sport is also critical factor in developing your fitness both mental & physical.. Wishing you a bright future ahead.
regards

 

[Chakram Indian]

Well, I guess then Ill leave out the squadron markings for this while I play around with it.
I'm guessing I may be the only one with a simulator environment where you can fly:

PAF Current/Future: F-16(Block-52,MLU,ADF), JF-17(Block-I,II, Two seater), Mirage(IIIE/D/R/ROSE , VP,PA,ROSE),
F-7(MP,PG,Trainer variants), K-8P , Allouette, Mi-17 . J-31
Flyable as well but usually AI: C-130B/E, Il-78,Saab-2000AEW, ZDK-03, Dassault Falcon
PA: Cobra, Chetak, Mi-17

PAF Historic: Hawker Tempest/Fury, Supermarine Attacker, F-86 E/F, Martin B-57, Shenyang F-6/C, Q-5 Fantan, F-7P T-6G


IAF Current/Future: FGFA, Su-30MKI, Rafale C/B, Mirage-2000C/5, Mig-29(M/UPG), HAL Tejas mk-I, Mig-27M/UPG, Mig-21(Type-88/Bison), Jaguar IN M/S(DARIN), Chetak, Mi-17,Mi-35, Apache, Bae Hawk Mk-132

IA: Mi-17,Mi-8
IN: Sea Harrier FRS.51/ LUSH , Mig-29K, Sea King Mk-45
Also flyable but usually left to AI: Il-78, An-32, Il-38, Tu-95, P-8 Poseidon,C-130J,C-17

IAF Historic: Hawker Spitfire/Hurricane/Tempest , DH Vampire FB52, Dassault Oursgan , Mystere, Hawker Hunter F.56 ,Folland Gnat/HAL Ajeet, Mig-21 F/FL , Mig-23MF Bahadur, Mig-23BN, HAL Marut, Sukhoi Type S-22 Fitter, EE Canberra, Mig-25, Fairchild 119 Boxcar.

All over fairly well detailed and accurate area of the Indo/Pak theatre.. not just the western front but also the eastern front.

its the little things that count.
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you forgot a few sqds of rudra inservice with IA /IAF currently while you are counting the current if you count chetaks you should also include ALH dhruvs and for future you should also include LCH - light combat helicopter

and in 3-4 yrs timeframe LUH - light Utility helicopter which will replace Cheetahs and chetaks

 

[Chakram Indian]

156 crore? Thats way off the mark that newspapers got it dead wrong.

Its 200 crore+ and right now bvr, mid-air refeuling are yet to be installed. Could be in the 220-235 crore range for FOC squadron.

BVR is not to be installed the capability is already there what it requires is integrating and testing

integrating means making few communicaition enablers changes in source codes and testing it dosent involve any monetary costs (not major costs anyway)

All wait to find a Mk.2 with the Levcons before that is added.

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no levcons for IAF MK2

levcons only for navy even in Mk2

Any chance of both mk1 squadrons getting inducted before 2020? Given rate of production is 4-8 and 2015 is nearing.

the production capacity is

8+8+16

now 4 will be delivered in 2015 march
8 in 2016 march
16 will be delivered in 2017

so 20 Ioc 2 config will be delivered by 2017

 

[Chakram Indian]

So no chances of a Rocket pod or any A2G or electronic ordnance on the wingtip stations?

of course it can carry those

the pother loadouts are of long time back as will

there is a surpprise

tejas in future will also carry
1. Longer range version of Nag / Helina and current Nag / Helina in anti armour roles

But the days of rocket posds and cannon starfing of ground are gone

So no chances of a Rocket pod or any A2G or electronic ordnance on the wingtip stations?

EW suite and ECM suite will be inbuilt not to be carried externally

wow, seriously?
Glad he is not like previous IAF chiefs

some hard truths have been drilled home in his head by new govt

Tejas is not only an Indegenous fighter Aircraft

it is a wholesale indegenous fighting and Delivery Platforms

Conisder thses

Tejas - Indian
Radar - Israel Backend + indian Frontend + Aesa Indian (mk2 )
FCS indian
Composite tech Indian
EW suite Indian
ECM Indian

A2A
BVR Astra2 Indian
WVR Astra1 Indian

A2G
Smart Bombs Indian
PGM Indian

Anti Armour
Nag / Helina indian

Surprise for 2017-18

Mk2 will be able to carry Brahmos _ M air launched - 50% indian