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[Superboy]

dude seriously.u have been on going on about DSI for a really long time.it is a medium level technology.it doesn't render jf17 invisible

DSI is the thing man. Other than JF-17, no other operational fighter jet in the world has DSI. Man!

 

[Indus Falcon]

India's 20-Year Late LCA Faces Fresh Delays
Jul. 20, 2014 -By VIVEK RAGHUVANSHI

India's Light Combat Aircraft is expected to miss its 2014 deadline for final operational clearance. (AFP)


NEW DELHI— India’s Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Mark-1, already 20 years late, likely will miss its final operational clearance (FOC) deadline set for the end of 2014, an Indian Air Force source said.

In the run-up to the FOC stage, handling tests are being performed on only one aircraft while the remaining five are still in production. Ideally, handling flight tests should be performed on at least six aircraft to ascertain their operational readiness, the source said.

“With handling tests on only one aircraft, and the remaining not even manufactured, it is impossible to get FOC by December’s end,” the source said.

The initial operational clearance (IOC) for LCA Mark-1 was received in December. Now the aircraft must demonstrate full performance as defined by the design and agreement of the Indian Air Force.

In addition, the aircraft will integrate missiles and must have the capability for midair refueling. The LCA undergoing testing has still not been modified to allow air-to-air refueling and is unlikely to have that capability by the end of 2014, the source added.

No official from LCA producer Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) was available for comment or responded to questions submitted by Defense News. The Air Force ordered 40 LCAs from HAL.

The LCA’s project cost has ballooned from about $90 million in 1983, when the project was conceived, to more than $4 billion. The aircraft is unlikely to be ready for operational deployment before 2016, the source said; the latest projected date had been 2014.

LCA has been developed by the Aeronautical Development Agency, a laboratory under the government’s Defence Research and Development Organisation.

An Air Force official said the Ministry of Defence promised the aircraft will be ready for combat missions from 2015 after receiving the FOC.

“We are keeping our fingers crossed for that day,” the official said.

Development delays forced the Air Force to hunt for a fighter aircraft. The process is still underway to procure 126 medium multirole combat aircraft (MMRCA) at a cost of more than $12 billion. French company Dassault’s Rafale is the preferred vendor.

The LCA was due to replace aging Russian MiG-21 fighters.

“With the MMRCA already in procurement stage for over seven years, and the wait for the LCA Mark-1 getting longer, the combat worthiness of the Air Force has been severely affected, for which the Ministry of Defence should fix responsibility,” said Bhim Singh, retired Air Force wing commander. “With the ongoing resource crunch and the new government committing a meager hike of 2.3 percent over the proposals made by the outgoing government in defense spending for the current financial year, it is unlikely the MMRCA will be inked this year.”

The fate of the LCA Mark-2, which would eventually meet the Air Force requirement for heavier payloads, is unknown as the MoD has not yet signed a deal to buy GE-414 engines from the US. The Air Force selected GE-414 over the Eurojet EJ 200 engine in 2011.

The service said it chose the GE-414 for LCA Mark-2 because of its higher thrust over the GE-4014 engine powering the Mark-1.

The Mark-2 will have additional features, including a new flight control computer; upgraded avionics; retractable in-flight refueling; on-board oxygen generation; an active electronically scanned array radar; new electronic warfare suite; and the ability to reach supersonic speed in level flight.

The Mark-2 was expected to be ready for flight tests by 2018, but the Air Force source said that because no significant work has begun on the aircraft, the 2018 deadline will be missed as well.

“The Indian Air Force has a requirement of over 200 LCA Mark-1 and Mark-2 aircraft, but with delays looking imminent and the procurement process of MMRCA getting longer, the Indian Air Force could take a major hit on its fleet strength in the years ahead,” Singh said.

http://www.defensenews.com/article/...-Delays?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p

 

[sms]

Meh. Tejas doesn't even have DSI like JF-17 does. It's not like Tejas is priority for the IAF. That in my opinion is Rafale from France.

Not a single serial production Tejas has ever rolled off the assembly lines. The first squadron likely won't be raised until 2018 at the earliest.

LOL, there is nothing hi tech about DSI but it's a alternate method to save cost and remove moving parts. It does not make it super maneuverable, invisible or space age jet.

Go back on late 50s and early 60s you may find some examples for DSI

 

[sathya]

Now , sp1 of LCA undergoing ground trials

Will take to skies sooner I guess in... July/august


GE 414 INS6 engine contract was signed and expected delivery in 2014 as far as I know..
Anyone knows better kindly update us..

 

[indiatester]

Now , sp1 of LCA undergoing ground trials

Will take to skies sooner I guess in... July/august


GE 414 INS6 engine contract was signed and expected delivery in 2014 as far as I know..
Anyone knows better kindly update us..

Do they have any viewing tickets for us enthusiasts to come a watch these things closer?
Please... pretty please

 

[spectribution]

India's 20-Year Late LCA Faces Fresh Delays
Jul. 20, 2014 -By VIVEK RAGHUVANSHI

India's Light Combat Aircraft is expected to miss its 2014 deadline for final operational clearance. (AFP)
NEW DELHI— India’s Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Mark-1, already 20 years late, likely will miss its final operational clearance (FOC) deadline set for the end of 2014, an Indian Air Force source said.

In the run-up to the FOC stage, handling tests are being performed on only one aircraft while the remaining five are still in production. Ideally, handling flight tests should be performed on at least six aircraft to ascertain their operational readiness, the source said.

“With handling tests on only one aircraft, and the remaining not even manufactured, it is impossible to get FOC by December’s end,” the source said.

The initial operational clearance (IOC) for LCA Mark-1 was received in December. Now the aircraft must demonstrate full performance as defined by the design and agreement of the Indian Air Force.

In addition, the aircraft will integrate missiles and must have the capability for midair refueling. The LCA undergoing testing has still not been modified to allow air-to-air refueling and is unlikely to have that capability by the end of 2014, the source added.

No official from LCA producer Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) was available for comment or responded to questions submitted by Defense News. The Air Force ordered 40 LCAs from HAL.

The LCA’s project cost has ballooned from about $90 million in 1983, when the project was conceived, to more than $4 billion. The aircraft is unlikely to be ready for operational deployment before 2016, the source said; the latest projected date had been 2014.

LCA has been developed by the Aeronautical Development Agency, a laboratory under the government’s Defence Research and Development Organisation.

An Air Force official said the Ministry of Defence promised the aircraft will be ready for combat missions from 2015 after receiving the FOC.

“We are keeping our fingers crossed for that day,” the official said.

Development delays forced the Air Force to hunt for a fighter aircraft. The process is still underway to procure 126 medium multirole combat aircraft (MMRCA) at a cost of more than $12 billion. French company Dassault’s Rafale is the preferred vendor.

The LCA was due to replace aging Russian MiG-21 fighters.

“With the MMRCA already in procurement stage for over seven years, and the wait for the LCA Mark-1 getting longer, the combat worthiness of the Air Force has been severely affected, for which the Ministry of Defence should fix responsibility,” said Bhim Singh, retired Air Force wing commander. “With the ongoing resource crunch and the new government committing a meager hike of 2.3 percent over the proposals made by the outgoing government in defense spending for the current financial year, it is unlikely the MMRCA will be inked this year.”

The fate of the LCA Mark-2, which would eventually meet the Air Force requirement for heavier payloads, is unknown as the MoD has not yet signed a deal to buy GE-414 engines from the US. The Air Force selected GE-414 over the Eurojet EJ 200 engine in 2011.

The service said it chose the GE-414 for LCA Mark-2 because of its higher thrust over the GE-4014 engine powering the Mark-1.

The Mark-2 will have additional features, including a new flight control computer; upgraded avionics; retractable in-flight refueling; on-board oxygen generation; an active electronically scanned array radar; new electronic warfare suite; and the ability to reach supersonic speed in level flight.

The Mark-2 was expected to be ready for flight tests by 2018, but the Air Force source said that because no significant work has begun on the aircraft, the 2018 deadline will be missed as well.

“The Indian Air Force has a requirement of over 200 LCA Mark-1 and Mark-2 aircraft, but with delays looking imminent and the procurement process of MMRCA getting longer, the Indian Air Force could take a major hit on its fleet strength in the years ahead,” Singh said.

http://www.defensenews.com/article/...-Delays?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p

BS : HAL Tejas was meant to get FOC by 2014 end or early 2015 i.e 15 months after FOC II. It will get it as the number of issues to be sorted are less now.

Regarding other 5 aircraft under production :

 

[notsuperstitious]

Whats with this superboy and DSI on all kinds of threads? Since his intellect is capable of processing only three alphabets at a time, its time he deleted DSI and looked for another set.

 

[Abingdonboy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/491832892280958977

 

[sathya]

That's excluding Navy plans isn't it..?

 

[nik22]

That's excluding Navy plans isn't it..?

That is just IAF. But it mention variants, so mk2 included

 

[Abingdonboy]

That's excluding Navy plans isn't it..?

IN orders are separate.

 

[he-man]

IN orders are separate.

Oh,,,man
Looks like well.................modi effect.

To be frank here though where is the money gonna come from for amca??
I mean lca mk1+2
pakfa
rafale
amca

Seems rather presumptious don't u think??
First we must focus on developing lca mk2,,,then only amca should come into the picture

 

[nik22]

Oh,,,man
Looks like well.................modi effect.

To be frank here though where is the money gonna come from for amca??
I mean lca mk1+2
pakfa
rafale
amca

Seems rather presumptious don't u think??
First we must focus on developing lca mk2,,,then only amca should come into the picture

DRDO budget is increased this year. Rafale and pakfa would be separate. But I think DRDO can manage some fund on their own for AMCA. There is already money for LCA from IAF and IN

 

[he-man]

DRDO budget is increased this year. Rafale and pakfa would be separate. But I think DRDO can manage some fund on their own for AMCA. There is already money for LCA from IAF and IN

Problem is AMCA is a stealth plane,,they need to allocate way more than they did for lca.
It will have its own set of problems like more weight due to 2 engines,,,s-ducts,internal weapon bays.

So i am not sure whether its a good plan or not to try and make 3-4 planes all together

 

[indiatester]

Problem is AMCA is a stealth plane,,they need to allocate way more than they did for lca.
It will have its own set of problems like more weight due to 2 engines,,,s-ducts,internal weapon bays.

So i am not sure whether its a good plan or not to try and make 3-4 planes all together

Parallel development should only be attempted when you have enough competent teams. I'd prefer the planners put the best resources on LCA and may be a small investigation team for the tough ones.
But then again you have too many people not doing anything... you must as well put them on everything but the critical ones.