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[sancho]

Guys, back to LCA please!

 

[Agent_47]

A Tejas being loaded on to C-17!

 

[sancho]

A Tejas being loaded on to C-17!

Abingdonboy was faster :

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[Agent_47]

Abingdonboy was faster :

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[Basel]

And what if Israel has already shared weaknesses of those equipments given to Pakistan to India? I am sure we can trust Israel more than you do.

Before trusting jews read history they are no ones friend.

 

[kaykay]

Before trusting jews read history they are no ones friend.

well they have helped us in Karrgil and then in Kashmir insurgency. So leave that trust thing on us. And anyway here you are trusting them and their weapons given to you more than us.

 

[Basel]

well they have helped us in Karrgil and then in Kashmir insurgency. So leave that trust thing on us. And anyway here you are trusting them and their weapons given to you than more than us.

Pakistan will not buy front line fighting systems from them, SIGINT & ELINT capability may be priority.

 

[kaykay]

Pakistan will not buy front line fighting systems from them, SIGINT & ELINT capability may be priority.

and thats perfectly okay for India. And no where close to what things they provide to India and yes we will/already know the limitations of those equipments.

 

[Kompromat]

“HAL pegs price of Tejas fighter at Rs 162 crore”.

As per today's exchange rate (61.47) per unit cost will be $26.35 million!!

That ofcourse would be without the weapons.

 

[Dazzler]

and thats perfectly okay for India. And no where close to what things they provide to India and yes we will/already know the limitations of those equipments.

Bit offtopic but israel had deep military relaitons with china till Yanks forced them, many of chinese radar/ AWACS/ ew/ weapon systems had israeli technologies, they sell to whom they like without Indian consent.

Haaretz news created a stir even in Pakistan, ISPR had to clarify the situation.

“According to the government report, Israel has exported security equipment over the past five years to Pakistan and four Arab countries. The report, which deals with British government permits for arms and security equipment exports, says that in addition to Pakistan, Israel has exported such equipment to Egypt, Algeria, the United Arab Emirates and Morocco,” it said.

A BIS spokesperson said there was no specific report on Israeli export of British security equipment to Pakistan, but it routinely released data on arms exports, including details of whether the arms were intended to be passed on to a third country. The Haaretz claim appeared to have been based on data indicating that British components sold to Israel eventually found their way to Pakistan. These included radar systems and parts for fighter jets.

Britain, however, refused licences for systems that Israel intended to export to India, Russia, Sri Lanka, Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan.

According to Haaretz, from January 2008 to December 2012, British authorities processed hundreds of Israeli applications to purchase military items for use by the Israel Defence Forces (IDF), or to go into systems exported to third countries.

Among the countries to which Israel exported equipment were several with which it did not have diplomatic relations. Besides Pakistan, its clients included Egypt, Algeria, the United Arab Emirates, and Morocco.

In 2011, Israel sought to purchase British components to export radar systems to Pakistan. Other items included electronic warfare systems, Head-up Cockpit Displays parts for fighter jets and aircraft engines, optic target acquisition systems, components of training aircraft, and military electronic systems.

In 2010, it applied for permits to export to Pakistan electronic warfare systems containing British components.

 

[Gessler]

If Israel gives all what India has then India will not be able to fight a war with Pakistan because most electronics used by IAF, IA & IN are Israeli and Pakistan's first requirement will be how to neutralize them.

You are too late for that because India is quickly running out of interest in most Israeli stuff for our
future generation fighters. Russia & France will be our principle suppliers in this regard. Russia & France
have gotten pretty much ahead of Israel thanks to their fighter programs. They are developing
stuff like GaN technology for AESA radars and goodies like active cancellation tech for Rafale. Israel
cannot offer anything comparable to them, so the next bunch of years are going to see a steady
decline in Israeli stuff in Indian aircraft.

We are developing our own AWACS as well, so no dependence solely on Israel for that either.

Even Tejas Mk-2 is getting very few Israeli stuff. most of it will be European actually.

Earlier, we used to depend on Israel for getting satellite intel & coordinates input, now there is
no need for that either.

So, as I said, even if Israel gives you everything it has given to India, it won't change the outcome
of the war because India would have moved on to much better stuff than what Israel can give
us. Oops!

The problem with India is that it want to be able to handle China in terms of military and China will not let it happen and Pakistan will got all support due to that reason.

Sure, whatever satisfies your ego.

They will not sold you their front line stuff, jews are the most clever people on earth, they can back stab anyone for their greater good.

No problem, in a few years time India will be throwing away most of the Israeli stuff because better indigenous,
Russian or European stuff is being brought to the table. This is the advantage of not depending on a sole
supplier even when you have to import - we always have a wide choice.

 

[kaykay]

Bit offtopic but israel had deep military relaitons with china till Yanks forced them, many of chinese radar/ AWACS/ ew/ weapon systems had israeli technologies, they sell to whom they like without Indian consent.

Haaretz news created a stir even in Pakistan, ISPR had to clarify the situation.

Sir Question is not about what they sell, i mean ofcourse they sell things to even Pakistan(not very high end techs) but all I was saying that we already/will know the drawbacks and limitations of those things through Israelis.

 

[rockstarIN]

That ofcourse would be without the weapons.

Isn't all fighter jet's price quoted without weapon package?

 

[Kompromat]

Isn't all fighter jet's price quoted without weapon package?

Yes, this must be per unit cost.

 

[Last Samuri]

Good point Rockstar

On thios basis
we have

JF17 block 1 @ $15m
JF17 block 2 @ $23-$25m
LCA tejas mk1 @ $26m
J10 A @ $35M
J10 B @ $45M


potential Bang for buck and the technology in the tejas being western @ $26m is a very good price

Tejas @ $26m buys you this