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And you have the cheek to talk about the state of our aeronautical industry?

Sure, you can bring up toilets and poverty for now but what will you ***** about in five years? The simple fact that you have to resort to the above mentioned cheap shots every other post should've humbled you a long time ago. Please do yourself a favor and stop comparing Pakistan to India.

I seriously can't believe the mods have ignored you for as long as they have. You are an utter disgrace to this forum, not once have I seen a valuable post from you.

Hey come on man...
Tejas is getting IOC soon know,so the Itch will also increase..
Just ignore him..
And enjoy his posts..
Soon u'll see threads like..
Tejas has no wings,
Tejas has no landing gear..
Tejas fuel get's over in just 10minutes..
Tejas can't drop bombs ..
Tejas has no computer system so it cannot be controlled by pilot..
Tejas cannot accommodate pilot in her C0ckpit..

U'll these type of comments and threads..
Just enjoy as i do..:lol:
 
And look who is speaking all this with all those DRDO achievements before public eyes over the decades gambling away free indian public taxpayer's money

Its funny you bring that up, do you have any clue where Pakistan stands? seriously? You claim to live in the states so I shouldn't have to spell it out for you, just watch the news.

What in gods name are you talking about, I can accept the fact that India is still a poor, underdeveloped nation but what has Pakistan done that gives you the gall to talk smack (on the internet of course) about our endeavors?

The bottom line is that India is making progress, sure its slow, but its happening. As a Pakistani, you just can't digest the fact that your country has absolutely nothing to show for itself (yeah, I mean NOTHING), except of course the occasional terrorist strike that's traced back to your soil. We're making progress in nearly every sphere of development, whether you like it or not India is a respected nation and slowly but surely we're making our mark on the world.

The LCA has gone from a 2nd generation fighter as was the original intention to arguably a modest 4th generation platform that is leagues ahead (thanks to foreign input, that Pakistan will NEVER have access to) of the JF17. We're literally at the cusp of inducting our own home grown 4th generation fighter, not to mention the AC's and nuclear submarines we're working on, while Pakistanis are busy killing themselves as your nation's leaders watch apathetically.

Trolling in every India related thread does nothing but betray your frustration and hopelessness with the state of affairs in your nation. You celebrate the failure of our cryogenic engine and at the same celebrate when your country assembles a $2000 helicopter as if you've landed on the moon, doesn't that tell you something? Perhaps you should focus more on the problems facing your nation rather than point out our failures.

Once again, its amazing the mods have allowed you to remain here for so long. I haven't read a SINGLE meaningful post from you in your time here, you aren't helping Pakistan by messing with Indians you're just making your envy plainly obvious. Its really quite pitiful.

Welcome to my ignore list, I've had enough of your BS. Good day to you.
 
Hey come on man...
Tejas is getting IOC soon know,so the Itch will also increase..
Just ignore him..
And enjoy his posts..
Soon u'll see threads like..
Tejas has no wings,
Tejas has no landing gear..
Tejas fuel get's over in just 10minutes..
Tejas can't drop bombs ..
Tejas has no computer system so it cannot be controlled by pilot..
Tejas cannot accommodate pilot in her C0ckpit..

U'll these type of comments and threads..
Just enjoy as i do..:lol:

I know what you're saying, I've ignored the guy for the longest time but seriously someone had to wake him up. In any case, he's on my ignore list so I won't waste anymore time on his idiotic BS.

Can't wait for the 27th, boy what a Christmas!!
 
is leagues ahead (thanks to foreign input, that Pakistan will NEVER have access to) of the JF17.

It is quite clear in the news that your current LCA falls short of its said specification, while the extend is classified. Therefore you do NOT know the true capability of the LCA, and saying that it is "leagues ahead" of the JF17 is just pure bull$hit in your imagination.

Read:

LCA Tejas Falls Short of Earlier Expectations | AVIATION WEEK
 
Tarmak007 -- A bold blog on Indian defence: ADA confirms Tejas LSP-3 jettisoned a 1200-litre drop tank over ATR

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Jettisonable drop tanks are carried by a combat aircraft, after completing the mission are required to be dropped from the mother aircraft for a quick get away from the enemy territory and other emergency situations. To ensure safety of flight, clean separation of the tank with adequate clearances from the mother aircraft or neighboring stores need to be established from flight test. This extremely safety critical flight test requires thorough planning and preparation supported by theoretical analysis and a level of verification of the predictions through ground tests on specialized test rigs set up for this purpose.
The theoretical predictions were further verified through what is called ‘Pit drop tests’ conducted on a test specimen using specially designed test rig with part of the aircraft system and high speed photography system integrated with it. The test cases covered a member of conditions such as empty, partial and full drop tanks as well as different Ejector Release Unit (ERU) settings.
The flight test were planned by the National Flight Test centre (NFTC), ADA at certain representative critical release condition. Considering the safety critical nature of this test, a safety review was conducted at NFTC to ensure all foreseeable safety issues were taken care of before embarking on this important test. To capture the flight data, a dedicated and specialized Airborne Separation Video System (ASVS) is installed on the Test aircraft. The system comprised of very high speed digital cameras installed in a specially designed camera pod and linked to a Multi System Controller (MSC) installed onboard the aircraft. The MSC gets a pulse from trigger to jettison the tank where upon the cameras are switched on in a pre-determined sequence to capture this critical event.
Mr PS Subramanyam, Programme Director (CA) and Director, ADA told “the 1200 Ltr drop tank jettison trial was conducted on 17 December 2010 at a critical point in the jettison envelope on Tejas LSP-3 aircraft piloted by Gp Capt Suneet Krishna. The trial was conducted over the recently commissioned NFTC Air to ground range at Chitradurga. The trial aircraft was escorted by another Tejas PV-2 which captured the external video picture of the drop tank trajectory after release”.
Dr Prahlada, CC-R&D (Ae-SI) – DRDO opined “with such test experiments made by the team, the aeronautical test range facility at Challakere has paved the smooth way for subsequent trials of different natures. He also said that if this facility were not to be commissioned at Challakere, all such flight tests would have to be carried on either at Hyderabad or Pokran. In view of the close proximity to Challakere to Bangalore it was more comfortable in conducting the test flights by the dedicated team the process of which could be monitored from Bangalore”.
The successful trial is the result of orchestrated team effort on the part of different organizations and specialists involved in this prestigious national programme- yet another feather on the decorated cap of the ‘Team Tejas.’
 
It is quite clear in the news that your current LCA falls short of its said specification, while the extend is classified. Therefore you do NOT know the true capability of the LCA, and saying that it is "leagues ahead" of the JF17 is just pure bull$hit in your imagination.

Read:

LCA Tejas Falls Short of Earlier Expectations | AVIATION WEEK

See here spitfire..
I said there will be posts and threads like these in coming minutes..
see this one:lol:

U'll see more on IOC day..:lol:
And spitfire u know how much does a JF-17 cost..?
I think u know that..:lol:
It's a win win situation for 3 of them also..

Buyer--->Got a cheap fighter jet within it's budget..
Seller--->Sold his fighter jet and made profits..
IAF-->Got an easy target...
:lol:
 
It is quite clear in the news that your current LCA falls short of its said specification, while the extend is classified. Therefore you do NOT know the true capability of the LCA, and saying that it is "leagues ahead" of the JF17 is just pure bull$hit in your imagination.

Read:

LCA Tejas Falls Short of Earlier Expectations | AVIATION WEEK

Doesn't specify what the expectations were now does it? Its not like we're settling for a jet that even the original manufacturers refuse to buy. Face it, Pakistan has no where to turn besides China for military equipment, and if that isn't enough in itself, even if the LCA falls a little short today we have the the necessary know how, foreign assistance and the RESOURCES (cough cough) to improve upon the platform, something Pakistan will simply never have access to in the foreseeable future. Its really as simple as that.

Of course, I'm not implying the LCA is inferior to the JF17, while both platforms are untested in combat I encourage you to read about the kind of equipment that has gone into each aircraft and draw your own conclusions, until you've done that, please don't waste my time with BS articles. The IAF is having a tough time deciding between the top 4.5 gen fighter jets of the day so that should tell you a little something about their standards/expectations.
 
I think IAF is taking careful steps. They have requirement of 200 fighters, they just placed 40 so as to encourage HAL. The eye would be on the Tejas MKII.

If HAL is successful in achieving the goal, then we will get a great fighter and IAF will place order to replace the entire mig 21 fleet. But if the fighter doesn't perform as per expectations then IAF should go for Gripen NG.

There's no place for egos in case of national security. We have to understand that Tejas is just the beginning and we are successful in making a very good fighter on our own but we we should only go for what is best in the world. This experience will pay us in the future.

Just look at Russia, they have made so many series of sukhois and migs that does not mean they induct every fighter they make. Just look at Su 30, Mig 35 etc and now they are making 5th gen fighter.

HAL should not be discouraged. We can sell Tejas to the 3rd world countries and show our superiority but that does not mean our forces have to buy these fighters.

Let me just clarify in the end, India should go for Gripen only if Tejas MKII is not as per the standards set by us and Gripen NG is definitely better than Tejas MKI.

Bye the way those Chinese JF17 looks like Typhoon. What are the specifications of JF17 ?/ I think China has made a nice fighter too.
 
Ajtr, please take your rants to non technical threads like those in the members club.

If you just browse through a few pages of this thread; you will notice that there is a good deal of interesting discussion going on about the technical and operational aspects of this craft..

If you have anything to contribute or query about along those lines; welcome! If not then please help us keep this thread drivel free by not contributing!
 
easy spitfire and tallboy,remember we are guest here . Just wondered that what if we trolling in Jf 17 thread ? Either you get sacked or you msg get deleted soon. Mods are simply remain ignorant about this ajtr ,because hes trolling in indian thread . Spitfire you better not to show them real mirror image to these guys ,press the ignore button.
 
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I think IAF is taking careful steps. They have requirement of 200 fighters, they just placed 40 so as to encourage HAL. The eye would be on the Tejas MKII.

If HAL is successful in achieving the goal, then we will get a great fighter and IAF will place order to replace the entire mig 21 fleet. But if the fighter doesn't perform as per expectations then IAF should go for Gripen NG.

There's no place for egos in case of national security. We have to understand that Tejas is just the beginning and we are successful in making a very good fighter on our own but we we should only go for what is best in the world. This experience will pay us in the future.

Just look at Russia, they have made so many series of sukhois and migs that does not mean they induct every fighter they make. Just look at Su 30, Mig 35 etc and now they are making 5th gen fighter.

HAL should not be discouraged. We can sell Tejas to the 3rd world countries and show our superiority but that does not mean our forces have to buy these fighters.

Let me just clarify in the end, India should go for Gripen only if Tejas MKII is not as per the standards set by us and Gripen NG is definitely better than Tejas MKI.

Bye the way those Chinese JF17 looks like Typhoon. What are the specifications of JF17 ?/ I think China has made a nice fighter too.

Don't be stupid u r comparing $15 million Jf-17 with $63 million Typhoon..
And u can't compare german engineering and Chinese engineering...

Or
r u sarcastic? :what:
 
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