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ohh.... ok in that case it wont be a problem at all then since they have intregated an isreali weapon (derby) before.
what of the development of the astra?
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ohh.... ok in that case it wont be a problem at all then since they have intregated an isreali weapon (derby) before.
what of the development of the astra?
im asking of it development not of its specs...... how long will it take for it be inducted on the mk2, mki, lca.
im asking of it development not of its specs...... how long will it take for it be inducted on the mk2, mki, lca.
I had one question regarding the choise of the BVR and WVR missile for Tejas.
How many of you thinks, that the choise of Derby and Python 5 is a good choice that the MICA IR/RF for Tejas. I think, the choice could be better if we would have gone for MICA path, making it a common weapon for Mirage UPG, Rafale and LCA Tejas, also MICA is a proven weapon in the European environment, with high Kill probability in an electronic warfare environment.
I had one question regarding the choise of the BVR and WVR missile for Tejas.
How many of you thinks, that the choise of Derby and Python 5 is a good choice that the MICA IR/RF for Tejas. I think, the choice could be better if we would have gone for MICA path, making it a common weapon for Mirage UPG, Rafale and LCA Tejas, also MICA is a proven weapon in the European environment, with high Kill probability in an electronic warfare environment.
- Israel FCS, integration would be easier.
- Derby/Python 5 combo is equally proven if not more.
- Cheaper, considering we spend around $1 billion for 500 MICAs.
- MICA is not upgraded while Derby ER is available.
- Israel FCS, integration would be easier.
- Derby/Python 5 combo is equally proven if not more.
- Cheaper, considering we spend around $1 billion for 500 MICAs.
- MICA is not upgraded while Derby ER is available.
I think Derby-ER+ Python-5 combo for Tejas is better. Reason being, Tejas mk1 has an hybrid radar which is based on an Israeli mmr and also even the Tejas mk1A will have Israeli AESA radar and thus Israeli weapons are better suited. Not to mention that Derby-ER is 100+ km bvr missile and highly advance one at that( with its 'second kick' at terminal phase, It ensure its 'No Escape Zone'(NEZ) to its full range which is 100 km, which is similar to the 'NEZ' of Meteor, though Meteor's range is greater).I had one question regarding the choise of the BVR and WVR missile for Tejas.
How many of you thinks, that the choise of Derby and Python 5 is a good choice that the MICA IR/RF for Tejas. I think, the choice could be better if we would have gone for MICA path, making it a common weapon for Mirage UPG, Rafale and LCA Tejas, also MICA is a proven weapon in the European environment, with high Kill probability in an electronic warfare environment.
I read some where that Israel even refused R 77 integration
As long as we need Israeli radars we will have to use Derby and Python 5
And now we are going for Israeli AESA 2052
Subjective, Python/Derby combo is designed for relatively close combat which fits the LCA role.Technically I feels MICA is better, that Derby both PK wise and propulsion wise
Not in productionThere have been developent of upgrades of MICA going as we speek
integration and procurement costs out weights all these in favor of Python/Derby.
- One Missile doing both BVR and WVR, means MICA could also be fired at the enemy in very close distance.
- For MICA IR, there is no need for the Radar for the illuminating the target, which is what LCA Tejas as an interceptor will be doing, when it have to follow the invading enemy plane from the tail.
- MICA IR also acts as IR passive sensor, when on board on the host plane, and could suffix the lack of IR Sensor though low performance.
- Higher number means low cost, and comonality means low maintainance cost.
Dude, seeker is part of the missile system. Integration of the seeker to the missile is already done. Now we can plug the missile anywhere we want.What about Astra then, oops it also uses the Agat Seeker
I think, they will ask for the cost of the integration of the R77.
I had one question regarding the choise of the BVR and WVR missile for Tejas.
How many of you thinks, that the choise of Derby and Python 5 is a good choice that the MICA IR/RF for Tejas. I think, the choice could be better if we would have gone for MICA path, making it a common weapon for Mirage UPG, Rafale and LCA Tejas, also MICA is a proven weapon in the European environment, with high Kill probability in an electronic warfare environment.
IMO Derby&Py-5 combo is better than MICA for Tejas, coz,
- Cost of MICA is very high as you know we paid too much amount for MICA series weapons.
- Derby(current version)is less weighted than traditional BVRs. Its range is less than ARMRAM/R-77 as it is good for a light fighter. Your radar can track boggies away from 70-100 km but the BVR engagement range will always within 45 km range. It was kept in mind while making the same. The the range is enough for the real engagement provided the kill zone is higher than other BVRs.
- It can be fired as a short range missile fro very short range without creating any problem for the launch platform.
- Derby ER is coming with greater range and widening no escape zone.
- ELTA 2032 & 2052 or even DRDO AESA integration will be easy.
- Lock on before and after launch.
You have to ask permission from another country to integrate a missile on your 'indigenous' plane? Seriously....