HAL STEALTH DRONE WINGMAN UNVEILED AT AERO INDIA 2021

[Goenitz]

Excuse me!! Who are you!!
Shut up and mind your damn business.

he is Oscar...

 

[Zapper]

Hopefully the outcome is better than Kaveri.

Kaveri is a whole different ball game. GTRE was able to get the Kaveri up and running but weren't able to generate the desired thrust. These are smaller engines and we already have working models

SNCEMA was fairly involved in Kaveri and nothing came of that.

There was no official confirmation in that regard since there were some differences in DRDO's approach vs what SNECMA wanted to do and Kaveri program was put on hold back then. Recent reports emerged stating GTRE will revive Kaveri project with French assistance

 

[SQ8]

Kaveri is a whole different ball game. GTRE was able to get the Kaveri up and running but weren't able to generate the desired thrust. This are smaller engines and we already have working models


There was no official confirmation in that regard and Kaveri program was put on hold back then. Recent reports emerged stating GTRE will revive Kaveri project with French assistance

Because they wanted to replace indian core with Frencg one. DRDO refused , the negotiation for offset for engine is still ongoing.

And France govt signed a legally binding contract with india to transfer that tech, at some point it will happen.

France trying to resolve there own internal politics between private companies.

Ideally that core replacement should be the approach - once that “interim” indigenous engine is up and running further indigenization can be carried out in the future.
The goal should be to get it off the ground rather than hold up the project due to engines or other ancillary sensors.

 

[Goenitz]

I think you need to come to reality and stop mirroring the Indians in their delusions of cake walks and superiority.

do you really think they can develop the engine and loyal wingman? so much miniaturisation and new sensors are needed.. can they do that themselves or US or Isreal can help?

 

[Zapper]

Ideally that core replacement should be the approach - once that “interim” indigenous engine is up and running further indigenization can be carried out in the future.
The goal should be to get it off the ground rather than hold up the project due to engines or other ancillary sensors.

Well no one clearly knows what exactly went wrong in regards to collaborating with the French. All we know for now is

India Setting Up A New Complex To Develop A 110 KN Fighter Jet Engine; Will Power The Future Fighter Aircraft Of The IAF

https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/...-power-the-future-fighter-aircraft-of-the-iaf

 

[Farhan Bohra]

do you really think they can develop the engine and loyal wingman? so much miniaturisation and new sensors are needed.. can they do that themselves or US or Isreal can help?

Dont ever underestimate the indian private sector.

They work under so much socialist environment, and still come up with next gen cutting edge solutions.

I have more hope for this program than AMCA or TEDBF.

 

[crankthatskunk]

Yet you were ready to supposedly give me a reality check - hypocrite much?!
Let agree to disagree

Reality Check was given. Do not harp about breaking of Pakistan, we know how it was achieved.
That is history. Now is the time to write new history, break up of India.
I am not taking enemy lightly. Pakistan should make it count when it has the opportunity.
I have constantly said, Pakistan should have downed all 9 jets locked and should have bombed the 5 locked targets, including the Brigade HQ where Bipin was sitting.
The bald patch shouldn't have been on the mountain, it should have been on the trouser of Bipin.

 

[Zapper]

do you really think they can develop the engine and loyal wingman? so much miniaturisation and new sensors are needed.. can they do that themselves or US or Isreal can help?

US hardly helps anyone in the development of their own programs, particularly Asians. We haven't used any US component in our programs other than their engines, GE's F-404 and F-414. They're extremely strict on export control when it comes to defence systems.

While we did develop some systems in collaboration with the Israelis like the MR-SAM/LR-SAM or Brahmos with the Russians, the recent production versions primarily consist of Indian content. For instance, the only Russian component in the Brahmos is the ramjet while the booster, seeker, airframe and onboard electronics are all Indian. Previously, the seeker and booster were Russian. It's the same with MR-SAM.

While India has moved away from developing weapons platforms in collaboration with the Russians and Yankees are unlikely to get involved, you can expect to see some Israeli components but again, we're buying those components while DRDO carries the integration work. Again, that's debatable since similar to the LCA where Israeli radar & avionics will be replaced by Uttam AESA radar and BEL avionics in future versions. They're currently undergoing tests in LCA's SP variants

The bottomline is though LCA project took a while, it helped us in developing and setting up of several labs, test facilities and associated research orgs. It also brought onboard the private sector and educational institutes which will help fastrack all ongoing and future projects. No wonder the designs for MWF and TEDBF were frozen in 2-3 years timeframe while metal cutting for MWF's prototypes has already begun

An example of the involvement of our edu institutes, the ADE DRDO's Swift has a major portion of it's developmental work done by IIT-Kanpur

https://twitter.com/x/status/1355882206535663624

 

[White and Green with M/S]

View attachment 712395

almost same as of Boeing loyal wingman

 

[SQ8]

do you really think they can develop the engine and loyal wingman? so much miniaturisation and new sensors are needed.. can they do that themselves or US or Isreal can help?

Without help? No
Perhaps through further public-private sector partnerships its very possible but their own archaic bureaucratic system gets in the way to make it irreverent .

 

[Michael Corleone]

Lol 3-4 fighters upcoming

 

[jupiter2007]

Never underestimate you appointed..., Compare to Pakistan, India has bigger economy, excess to advance technology from multiple countries and large defense budget for purchases and invest in house R&D.
Pakistan is lacking behind because of our economy and our private sector is small with much smaller budget compare to other countries.

 

[Dalit]

Lol 3-4 fighters upcoming

LOL These Indians and their shenanigans.

 

[PakFactor]

In a significant developement, Aero India 2021 unveiled a 1:1 model of ambitious HAL Wingman stealth drone for the first time which has an endurance of about 80 minutes and a range of max. 800 km. This range along with a speed of 0.8 mach enable Wingman to penetrate enemy territory within any short time.
Besides it uses indigenious PTAE turbojet engine which is used in Lakshya drone of India.
with 1.3 ton of empty weight this beast can carry a good amount of explosives.Wingman has also a big export potential as it costs just 5 million dollar which is the cheapest at its category..View attachment 712327View attachment 712327HAL wingman with DRDO SAAW bomb

RIP off Version of Boeing XQ-58A Design.
Someone close this thread, and you have Pajeets talking about engine development when it took these clowns 40+ years to get MiG-21's stepsister Teja up and running.

 

[rEd cHiLLi]

So which plane this wing man will follow?

Tejas MK2 and in future AMCA.