Gwadar another Dubai emerging on world map: Chinese media

[Loafer]

LOL, Indonesia is not an ally of China, what's with promise? I guess you meant China promised to loan Indonesia $30 billion.

See you show commitment and then actually invest 5% of what your promises.This is like an insult and making a joke of the host country.

Pakistanis buyer caveat.

 

[Finer]

Karachi should have been Dubai as it emerged to be Asia Tiger in economy in 60s. But from 1971 to USSR invasion changed everything. Now Pakistan is back on the right track provided PTI and its nexus TTP don't do anything to damage the progression of CPEC.

I guess Karachi wasn't destined to be Dubai. Let's hope Gwadar becomes one. Balochistan needs that. Not another good news for veg eaters.

 

[Clutch]

The fact that our terrorist supporting neighbours to the south are all in a fury and have their panties in a bunch about Gwadar... is proof enough that CPEC is going to be resounding success!

This thread is proof of their envy... they keep posting on Gwadar related threads... amazing to say the least.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Any port in the subcontinent is vulnerable to attack. I'm sure both Pakistan and India cover each other's territory in multiple ways e.g. missiles, air strikes, naval strikes etc..so that's true but pointless about Gwader. I would say it is infact safer than Karachi due to the distance and having two or more ports gives Pakistan more options during a war. Furthermore both Pakistani and Chinese navies will be operating from there so attacking Gwader will mean a direct attack on China, a scenario India or any country can ill afford in an eon with or without uncle sam.

I am actually watching the movie "Synchrocity"

I hope my remark was not misunderstood. It felt appropriate to point out the risk, but a risk pointed out by an Indian in today's circumstances is sometimes interpreted as a threat, which is sad.

To clarify, in war, if China is neutral, she is neutral, but she cannot drape her neutrality over Gwadar, which is and will remain Pakistani territory. The presence of her naval units in the proximity is meaningless unless they take active part in fighting, or China joins the war. She will never be able to concentrate a greater number of naval units in the region than a local power, and may at best put in some token units as moral shields, as putting up a line that others should not cross. However, the behaviour of neutrals in times of war is very clearly etched in international law, and that allows her no latitude; it is war or nothing, no protective shields are legal. It is then up to the military planners and strategic decision makers of the other side to decide what to do.

 

[The SC]

This is very good news for Pakistan.. two free Zones in Gwadar are very attractive for International business.
Soon there will be something like an olympic championship for who gets in first..

 

[dray]

This is very good news for Pakistan.. two free Zones in Gwadar are very attractive for International business.
Soon there will be something like an olympic championship for who gets in first..

How is the security situation of Pakistan? And political stability?

 

[war&peace]

I hope my remark was not misunderstood. It felt appropriate to point out the risk, but a risk pointed out by an Indian in today's circumstances is sometimes interpreted as a threat, which is sad.

To clarify, in war, if China is neutral, she is neutral, but she cannot drape her neutrality over Gwadar, which is and will remain Pakistani territory. The presence of her naval units in the proximity is meaningless unless they take active part in fighting, or China joins the war. She will never be able to concentrate a greater number of naval units in the region than a local power, and may at best put in some token units as moral shields, as putting up a line that others should not cross. However, the behaviour of neutrals in times of war is very clearly etched in international law, and that allows her no latitude; it is war or nothing, no protective shields are legal. It is then up to the military planners and strategic decision makers of the other side to decide what to do.

Sir, Please do not worry that much about China's neutrality. I have not seen any written documents by Chinese govt the make it necessary for China to remain neutral...However on many occasions China has reiterated that an attack on Islamabad will be considered an attack on beijing and that was addressed directly to uncle sam after strike on alleged OBL and for the rest Pakistan has sufficient resources to take care...and as far as local were non-local is concerned; China is not that far either...how much time does it from SCS to Indian ocean. Furthermore, some presence of Chinese Navy will be there in the area anyway.

 

[The SC]

How is the security situation of Pakistan? And political stability?

It seems ok..
Actually it was so ok that Modi got nervous and had to travel to the US and ask for a security pact with the the latter,, So now no one can say that india the US and its offspring Usrael weren't involved in Pakistan's internnal affairs..

 

[Indian009]

IA I hope so in time- btw I am of the opinion India should also be allowed to access Gwadar what do you guys think ?

If I may reply ,

Not only India, allow all the parties the access who want to reach CA including USA. If the economic interests are bound together people become more rational

IPI - Pakistan refuses to give India security guarantee, if i remember.

Correct me if I am wrong. Pakistan was ready but India wanted Iranian assurance which they decline That's why project went down

 

[Sinnerman108]

If I may reply ,

Not only India, allow all the parties the access who want to reach CA including USA. If the economic interests are bound together people become more rational


Correct me if I am wrong. Pakistan was ready but India wanted Iranian assurance which they decline That's why project went down

The americans got Hindu-stan by the ear and told them to back off.

In spite of easing tensions, the americans are actively blocking any pipeline from Iran.

 

[Indian009]

The americans got Hindu-stan by the ear and told them to back off.

In spite of easing tensions, the americans are actively blocking any pipeline from Iran.

It's your opinion I can't argue.
But just to add
-Same USA asked India to STOP purchase of Iranian crude.
- Same USA asked India to side with it on Crima
I can add more but I guess that's enough for point

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

http://tribune.com.pk/story/880187/...ink-pakistan-asks-for-trade-via-karachi-port/

Pakistan is playing spoil sport, if India needs to go through Karachi or Gawadar, it's better for India to go via Chabahar rather.
IPI - Pakistan refuses to give India security guarantee, if i remember.

That's not how it works bhai... Chabahar trade will be confined to Iran and Central Asia - meanwhile Gwadar will be in the center of Chinese-International trade and thus will be exposed to a much larger, vibrant, active and growing market. We'll most likely see active trade and cooperation between Chabahar and Gwadar as the Central Asian countries would love to be a part of this trade route.

 

[Sinnerman108]

It's your opinion I can't argue.
But just to add
-Same USA asked India to STOP purchase of Iranian crude.
- Same USA asked India to side with it on Crima
I can add more but I guess that's enough for point

Do some research first,
see the % of crude Hindu-stan got from Iran and how that changed to Saudi Arabia in the last 5 years.

 

[Indian009]

Do some research first,
see the % of crude Hindu-stan got from Iran and how that changed to Saudi Arabia in the last 5 years.

Be my teacher and do teach me sir.

After the USA mak stooped the insurance of Iranina crude , a parallel Indian system was set. What you call that.

Reduction in import percent was done by all. More by China than India. USA clearly asked TO STOP we didn't

Tag in any Iranina member if you want

 

[HariPrasad]

If the photograph shown in picture is the state of development of this port, I am sorry it is no where near the small ports owned by many indian private companies like Essar and Adanis.

Gwadar another Dubai emerging on world map: Chinese media
July 10, 2016, 1:37 pm/ 1 Comment
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BEIJING: Gwadar, another Dubai is emerging on World’s map, that will change the economic scenario of not only Pakistan but whole of the region, reports Chinese media.

There will be a ceremony next month marking the completion and commencement of major infrastructure projects in Gwadar that also greatly boost the city's function as an economic engine for the country.

A water dam, a hospital and a school will be put into use in August, while the construction of the Gwadar International Airport, a seaside expressway, a training center and a pipeline will begin in the meantime.

Most of the projects are financed by China and falls under CPEC, Xinhua reports quoting Gwadar Port Authority Chairman Dostain Jamaldini.

COPHC, a Chinese company managing the Gwadar port, also said it will start developing the Gwadar Free Trade Zone (FTZ) this month with an initial investment of $ 150 million.

"First phase projects in the FTZ include a multi-function business center, a exhibition hall for Chinese goods and cold storage," COPHC Pakistan chief Wu Chunguo said.

The FTZ and the Gwadar Special Economic Zone are two areas that the Pakistani government has granted preferable policies to attract investments, with tax exemptions for companies inside the two zones for 23 years and 10 years respectively.

A town with a population of less than 100,000, Gwadar was once a territory of Oman before being purchased by Pakistan in 1958. It is gifted with a natural deep-water harbor that falls close to main shipping lanes and an anchor-shaped peninsula that acts as a breakwater shielding the harbor from the waves of the Arabian Sea.

An arid climate and isolated location once limited locals to rely on the meager income brought in by fishing.

Though development plans had been drawn up by the Pakistani government in 2002, the town remained dormant for another decade before China chose the port as one of the four focuses for its ambitious scheme to overhaul Pakistan's infrastructure.

The other three are upgrading road and railroad networks, patching up the energy sector and establishing industrial parks, all projects that stand to benefit from a prosperous Gwadar port.

Seizing the momentum brought by CPEC, the Gwadar government is hoping to develop the coastal town into a modern metropolis with a major port, industrial zones, tourist attractions, recreation grounds and high-end real estate.

It certainly seems that the town is moving in that direction, says Wu of COPHC. "We are seeing an increasing number of businesses coming for talks to invest in the port. In April we received more than 350 business representatives, a record high."

Land prices, a barometer that measures investor confidence, has more than doubled in the past two years, Jamaldini said.

An acre of land in the FTZ, which cost 3.4 million Pakistani rupees (32,000 U.S. dollars) in 2014, is now priced at more than 10 million rupees (95,000 US dollars), he said, adding land price for the most prime location on the tip of the peninsula is even higher.

Encouraged by the upcoming boom, locals are ready to move on from harvesting fish to harvesting a better life.

Dubai is the word often used when the people of Gwadar picture their future, believing the huge opportunities created by CPEC will transform their fishing town to a center of business, shipping and tourism. "What Dubai can achieve, so can we," Jamaldini said.
http://nation.com.pk/national/10-Jul-2016/gwadar-another-dubai-emerging-on-world-map-chinese-media