Gwadar another Dubai emerging on world map: Chinese media

[war&peace]

Before allowing to access Gwadar you are required to give land route access to Indian.

Realistically speaking Pakistan has nothing to offer to India which will make Gwadar worthwhile.

Don't be under any illusion. Pakistan will not offer the terrorists anything this is just his personal opinion and he has already been embarassed enough as the policy of appeasement normally leads to, especially when people disregard their national interests, they end up being a laughing stock for rest of the world. Kashmir has to be freed and water issues to be solved either through peaceful talks or war and I don't say I have preference of one over the other, before we can think of any relations.

 

[Laozi]

That's just an Indian conspiracy theory that anti-Nawaz Pakistani media is behind this narrative.

No doubt Nawaz Sharif the businessman would put his interests first as opposed to other interests.

Don't be under any illusion. Pakistan will not offer the terrorists anything this is just his personal opinion and he has already got embarassed enough and the policy of appeasement normally leads, especially when people disregard the national interests. Kashmir has to be freed and water issues to be solved either through peaceful talks or war and I don't say I have preference of one over the other.

OMG how easy it is to brainwash people.

Keep ranting appeasement of India by Nawaz

When somebody asks " What he did to appease India ? "

NO ANSWERS

 

[war&peace]

OMG how easy it is to brainwash people.

Keep ranting appeasement of India by Nawaz

When somebody asks " What he did to appease India ? "

NO ANSWERS

You quoted my post but your answer out of sync. I did not mention or alluded to NS. Do you have a problem in comprehension?

 

[hassamun]

The success of Gwader depends mostly on how the Pakistani Government deals with the people of Baluchistan. In the past there were no positive steps...and there were signs of neglect...

 

[Providence]

It can do better. Dubai evokes the kind of sentiments which surely can't be attributed to a top class city.

 

[war&peace]

It can do better. Dubai evokes the kind of sentiments which surely can't be attributed to a top class city.

Would you like to elaborate?

 

[Providence]

Would you like to elaborate?

I don't consider Dubai a world class city. Sure it has all the lights and fancy top rises but a world class city is made by it's vibrant crowd. The only thing which I have seen during my albeit short stay there was, crowd was just interested in eating out and jay walking in malls.

 

[maximuswarrior]

OMG how easy it is to brainwash people.

Keep ranting appeasement of India by Nawaz

When somebody asks " What he did to appease India ? "

NO ANSWERS

Like as if you have any answers other than conspirary theories.

 

[hassamun]

I don't consider Dubai a world class city. Sure it has all the lights and fancy top rises but a world class city is made by it's vibrant crowd. The only thing which I have seen during my albeit short stay there was, crowd was just interested in eating out and jay walking in malls.

I have been living in the UAE since 2008. What I can say is the best thing I like about the UAE is the sense of security. I can walk anywhere outdoors at 3 am and not bother about being robbed or killed.

Dubai is a tourist based city and that is the reason why you can see so many Malls here.

 

[maximuswarrior]

The success of Gwader depends mostly on how the Pakistani Government deals with the people of Baluchistan. In the past there were no positive steps...and there were signs of neglect...

That is exactly what I meant by taking into consideration all stakeholders. The biggest stakeholder are the people of Balochistan and they deserve the lion's share.

I have been living in the UAE since 2008. What I can say is the best thing I like about the UAE is the sense of security. I can walk anywhere outdoors at 3 am and not bother about being robbed or killed.

Dubai is a tourist based city and that is the reason why you can see so many Malls here.

Other than malls and tourism Dubai hasn't got much to offer. Gwadar surely is going to be so much more. A splendid and serene surrounding. A true commerce hub which connect one region with another. An economic engine for the rest of the country. Hopefully a place where our kids grow up to be doctors and engineers and an inspiration for the rest of the country. Tourism and malls are for countries that have small aspirations.

 

[war&peace]

Gwadar is for Pak and China. Hindia mere L pe charray.

I don't consider Dubai a world class city. Sure it has all the lights and fancy top rises but a world class city is made by it's vibrant crowd. The only thing which I have seen during my albeit short stay there was, crowd was just interested in eating out and jay walking in malls.

Yes I agree with you on that. There are two aspects, the Dubai govt has been successful in establishing it as a major tourist and trade hub and they should be applauded for that,,I'm turning a desert into an a hub of trade, tourism and luxury is not a small feat...but that's it, it is just skin deep and not sustainable. Basically it is serving as a heaven for the filthy rich people to show off. It does not have a the subtle character of the developed cities with long historical traditions.

However Gawader has a long way to go. First govt needs to pay more attention to the development of the local people which has been totally missing so far and everything is being lost under CPEC. It is not to say CPEC is bad or harmful...actually it is exactly the opposite but basically the typical arrogance of the both the bureaucracy and civilian and military leadership is in the way of the development of the area. There is unproportional development, on one side, you can see huge complexes being built for Chinese companies and other trade and business organisations but on the other side the people of the city still suffering with poverty and being deprived of the their rights. No electricity, water, education and schools and this you can see in the latest program called Gwadar ka Mahaaz by Wajahat Saeed Khan. Previously I thought a great amount of development was taking place in the area all around. What will it cause depravity and sense of injustice among the locals if it is not addressed in the timely manner. And if anyone raises such issues, he risks to be labelled as a traitor or anti-state while we all want a sustainable development. Only a sustainable development for the people will set Pakistan on the highway to the progress and prosperity and not by any other shortcut.

 

[Laozi]

Don't be under any illusion. Pakistan will not offer the terrorists anything this is just his personal opinion and he has already been embarassed enough as the policy of appeasement normally leads to, especially when people disregard their national interests, they end up being a laughing stock for rest of the world. Kashmir has to be freed and water issues to be solved either through peaceful talks or war and I don't say I have preference of one over the other, before we can think of any relations.

UN has not declared India a Terrorist state yet so it is unfair to address any country as Terrorists.

Would you care to expand on which Pakistani policies of appeasement led to embarrassment ?

Are you planning to give status of a sovereign country to the Parts of Kashmir held by Pakistan OR is it only Indian Kashmir which needs to be freed ?

India had very foolishly signed the Indus water treaty to appease Pakistan. Indians will welcome if you agree to cancel that treaty and renegotiate it either with Talks Or War. ( But do check with experts before losing a good position )

Hope you will find the above in sync

Regards

 

[war&peace]

UN has not declared India a Terrorist state yet so it is unfair to address any country as Terrorists.

Would you care to expand on which Pakistani policies of appeasement led to embarrassment ?

Are you planning to give status of a sovereign country to the Parts of Kashmir held by Pakistan OR is it only Indian Kashmir which needs to be freed ?

India had very foolishly signed the Indus water treaty to appease Pakistan. Indians will welcome if you agree to cancel that treaty and renegotiate it either with Talks Or War. ( But do check with experts before losing a good position )

Hope you will find the above in sync

Regards

The appropriate policy is to reply India in the kind. I'm not a diplomat so I don't need to consult UN for words, Indian agents have been caught red handed in Baluchistan for creating terrorism in Pakistan and Indian backing of TTP and MQM is a well known but ugly truth and even BBC has documented it. Indus treaty was unjust and Pakistan conceded more to India than its fair share and it should be revised otherwise risks equal or a better scope for a peaceful nuclear conflagration in subcontinent.
Kashmir is a disputed territory and a plebiscite should be undertaken in both parts of Kashmir under neutral observer and the Indian Occupation Army (IOA) must move out of the territory and Indian officer should be tried for war crimes. I have a firm belief that dialogues will never result in any positive outcome and other measures are necessary to get the positive outcome.

Regards,
War no Peace.

we should request indians to give us their automation technology to help us speed up development work at gwadar. yay or nay? @DESERT FIGHTER @Spring Onion @Shamain @WebMaster

This can be done by anoyone..you don't even need some formal education for it. This a one of the simplest DIY projects all you need is a wooden box, 2-3 stepper motors, limit switches, and a microcontroller (PIC or Atmel)...an arduino nano board would be more than sufficient. My home has more automation in any given room including the storage room in the basement.

 

[khanz]

They already have ports which have access to indian ocean so they dont need Gawadar as it is a competitor to their ports as well.

I'm just thinking from purely a economic perspective having more people developing and relying on Pakistan will be better for economic development and stability. I think Pakistan needs to be internationalized as much as possible-They could transit their goods for export there by land then ship it.Gwadar is much closer to Persian gulf/ME than any Indian port so might be cheaper. Pakistan should also allow India land access to A-stan seriously hear me out- We should wait till they invest there as much as possible then give them exactly what they want at the last minute lol .
It would cause Indians effort to go down the drain, Chabahar would essentially become somewhat redundant and possibly fail,drive a wedge between India and Iran (India be silly to turn down a much cheaper and quicker Pakistani route),bring more money into Pakistan from transit fees,Increase their dependence on Pakistan making us even more strategically important as well as give us a degree of control over what goes into Afghanistan from India. I think it would actually be a master stroke from Pakistan.

 

[Laozi]

I'm not a diplomat so I don't need to consult UN for words

Since I am also not a diplomat therefore I reserve the right to call your country "Terrorists"

Indian agents have been caught red handed in Baluchistan

Your Army people boldly claim their activities in Indian Kashmir and Afghanistan on TV shows. All your neighbours except China claim that your country is indulging in disruptive activities in their land. You agents are caught everyday in these countries but if a single Indian is caught in Pakistan then you become a cry baby.

Indus treaty was unjust

OK, then tell your Government to rescind it. India WILL Welcome this Gesture.

otherwise risks equal or a better scope for a peaceful nuclear conflagration in subcontinent.

Golden Words and Spoken like true Pakistani

plebescite should be undertaken in both parts of Kashmir under neutral observer

Just read the necessary preconditions of plebiscite which were mutually agreed upon in UN before debating the issue.