Greek & Turkish F-16 Jets In Near 'Dogfight' Off Cyprus; Viral Video Shows Radar Lock

[truthseeker2010]

What are BVR skills my friend? It is simply pushing a button and the system will tell you when to do that.

Its how you operate the system and how the awacs operator is assisting you. If it would been just pushing a button every joe would have been an ace...........

 

[valkyr_96]

Its how you operate the system and how the awacs operator is assisting you. If it would been just pushing a button every joe would have been an ace...........

Spot on. Before Pakistan had the capability, PAF also felt the same way. In simulated exercises with US they realised that BVR was a different ball game with it own tactics. There should be an article here on that.

 

[truthfollower]

what happened to kill switches? We hear about it on defence.pk from time to time and what about US weapon systems cant engage other US made weapons

 

[khansaheeb]

"At least four UAE fighter jets have been reported dispatched to Crete to hold joint operations with the Hellenic Air Force." UAE will only make a fool of themselves .

As 2023 approaches , everyone is going to try and keep the genie in the box.

 

[valkyr_96]

what happened to kill switches? We hear about it on defence.pk from time to time and what about US weapon systems cant engage other US made weapons

I think the answer on PDF on "kill switches" has been that there is no such thing. About the engaging -the issue is with with the IFF system. Though Turkey got that sorted out.

 

[himate]

May Allah swt bless the turkish Army and the Turkish leaders.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

NATO is dead. That is for sure.

Turkey all the way.

That punny UAE under some camel jokies like MZN and Anwer Gargesh are really asking for some proper bitch slapping. Time for regime change. This non sense cannot be allowed to continue.

 

[ARMalik]

Turkey should help Greece get out of its misery by shooting down their entire Airforce, and teach these incompetent big mouth Greeks to settle down and behave like the little kid it is, and don't mess with the big boys.

 

[Joe1351]

We are born at our homes, and we die at the battlefields - a Turkish saying

Just saying. A better saying would be “
We are born at our homes, and we win at the battlefields and then we go back home
”

 

[Baybars Han]

Greeks are having their vipers upgraded to the V standard,for the time being their capabilities are almost the same.

Greece has more block 52s. The spoilt child of Europe gets any weapon as they wish. They are getting rafales soon and f-35. They are one of the only nations to always lose on the battlefield and win in the table. Their daddy's always support them, be it their independence 1821, ww1, ww2. They never gained anything themselves.

 

[kursed]

The video does not seem to be that of a 'real' dogfight. It seems dodgy.

1- For a hot interception, those aircraft have their master armament firing authorisation switches to ‘sim’ and not ‘arm’. This is done during training, not during actual interceptions.

2- Those are BVR equipped aircraft yet closing within a couple of thousand feet while manoeuvring at slow speeds, that’s hardly an interception but more like a training engagement.

3- With a BVR equipped aircraft, engagements take place literally tens of miles away unless you want to visually ID an aircraft, a thing of past considering the weapons.

4 - While Turks and Greeks often get into ‘fist fights’, you don’t intercept 6 aircraft WVR.

5- Getting into a fight against 6 aircraft would take at least 4 of your own or may be 6 would make it 12 aircraft in close vicinity, that’s too damn dangerous for WVR.

 

[K Shehzad]

Turkey, Greece continue with military exercises in eastern Mediterranean, with potential for dispute on exploration rights to escalate into confrontation .

Turkey said on Saturday it will hold a military exercise off northwest Cyprus for the next two weeks, two days after it intercepted six Greek F-16 jets in the Mediterranean amid growing tensions with Athens over energy exploration rights.

Video footage posted by the Turkish defence ministry on Friday purportedly showed Turkish Air Force planes preventing the Greek aircraft from entering the area where Turkey was operating. The F-16s had departed from the island of Crete and were heading towards southern Cyprus, the statement said.


On Friday night Turkey issued a Navtex notice - an advisory message to mariners - saying it would be holding a "gunnery exercise" from Saturday until 11 September off northwest Cyprus.

Rival agreements
The long-running dispute between Turkey and Greece, both Nato members, flared up after the two countries agreed rival accords on their maritime boundaries with Libya and Egypt, and Turkey sent a survey vessel into contested waters this month.

Both sides have held military exercises in the eastern Mediterranean, highlighting the potential for the dispute over the extent of their continental shelves to escalate into confrontation.

The European Union's top diplomat said on Friday that the bloc was preparing sanctions against Turkey that could be discussed at a summit in late September in response to Ankara's stand-off with EU member Greece.

The measures, meant to limit Turkey's ability to explore for natural gas in contested waters, could affect individuals, ships or the use of European ports, Josep Borrell said. The EU would focus on everything related to "activities we consider illegal," he added.

Borrell spoke in Berlin, where EU foreign ministers met to discuss support for Greece after Athens ratified a pact on its maritime boundaries to counter Turkey's claims to energy resources in the region.

 

[xMustiiej70]

The video does not seem to be that of a 'real' dogfight. It seems dodgy.

1- For a hot interception, those aircraft have their master armament firing authorisation switches to ‘sim’ and not ‘arm’. This is done during training, not during actual interceptions.

2- Those are BVR equipped aircraft yet closing within a couple of thousand feet while manoeuvring at slow speeds, that’s hardly an interception but more like a training engagement.

3- With a BVR equipped aircraft, engagements take place literally tens of miles away unless you want to visually ID an aircraft, a thing of past considering the weapons.

4 - While Turks and Greeks often get into ‘fist fights’, you don’t intercept 6 aircraft WVR.

5- Getting into a fight against 6 aircraft would take at least 4 of your own or may be 6 would make it 12 aircraft in close vicinity, that’s too damn dangerous for WVR.

It's simply an arm wrestle, that's the whole point.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Awesome skills shown by the Turkish pilot

Turkey's Air Force F-16s have confronted Greek fighter jets over the eastern Mediterranean in what is perhaps the closest the two sides have come to an incident sparking war.

Military statements from both sides are revealing details of the incident which happened Thursday off the southwestern coast of Cyprus, and involved what The Times (UK) described as a mock "dog fight" in which the Greek fighters even called for more aerial reinforcements.

File image via Ekathimerini
"Turkish and Greek fighter jets have engaged in a mock dogfight over the eastern Mediterranean, the second direct confrontation between the two Nato powers this month," The Times writes. "Ankara sent F-16s to intercept six Greek jets as they returned from Cyprus — where they had been participating in war games — to their base in Crete."

Subsequent Turkish cockpit video allegedly from the encounter appears to show that during the intercept a Turkish F-16 achieved radar lock on a Greek fighter, but did not fire.

Viral radar video published by Turkey's Ministry of Defense on Friday shows the risky jet intercept. It garnered over a million views merely within the first few hours of release, showing how hot tensions are running among each side's population:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1299402547136999424

Bloomberg also confirmed the dangerous incident as the two sides are increasingly backing their maritime claims with military power: "Turkish F-16s blocked six Greek jets from flying over a maritime area designated as off limits by Turkish navtex, or navigational telex, according to a statement by Turkey’s Defense Ministry."

This week the UAE also jumped in, as France and Italy have already joined Cyprus and Greece in joint war games, at a time Turkey is also about to hold its own 'live fire' exercises in the area.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1299403155822776320

At least four UAE fighter jets have been reported dispatched to Crete to hold joint operations with the Hellenic Air Force.

Recall that the allies are also standing against Turkey inside Libya, where Turkey's military has propped up the Tripoli government, but alternately the UAE has firmly backed rival Gen. Khalifa Haftar.

Source

 

[WebMaster]

UAE jets need to be shot down if they cross Turkey. Shame on them to side with the Greeks and Israelis.