Greece vs Turkiye Military Power : Tactical and Strategic Advantages

[Beny Karachun]

and I dont see İsraeli Corvette , Frigate , Destroyer , FAC , OPV , LHD , LST , Super Tanker , Submarines , Attack Helicopter , Utility Helicopter , Trainer and Fighter Jets , turbodiesel , turbojet , turboshaft and turbofan Engines and many more

You build stuff no one buys, we build stuff we can sell and profit, and buy what we need, fit to our purpose.

We don't need to build frigates and destroyers, those are big, bulky and have no advantage over Israeli Saar 6 and Saar 5 corvettes in naval combat, even the huge 11,000 tons Moskva missile cruiser, protected by S-300F and OSA missiles was easily sunk by two anti ship missiles. In the end what's important is :

electronic warfare (Which even the British, renowned for their navy, are using: https://elbitsystems.com/pr-new/elb...ronic-warfare-capabilities-to-the-royal-navy/)

Radar (MF-STAR)

missile interceptors (Barak 8 which shot down 2 Iskander missiles in Azerbaijan and Iron Dome with the most interceptions and highest interception rate ever)

And anti ship missiles (Gabriel V, Blue Spear, used by Israel, Singapore, Finland, Estonia with 400+ km range) all of which Israel is superior at.

We can build Corvettes, Saar 72 and Saar 62 for example. But they're only for export. But we can buy German corvettes and submarines in a massive discount, making it not worth for us to build them for IDF use.

About engines, we design them and sell the licenses for them, this is usually the business model of many Israeli companies (selling software, designs, patents or the company itself, as we call it an "exit", as opposed to manufacturing) as Israel is already small with very low unemployment rate.
Here is one example:

A little startup that could: Aquarius builds an engine others only dreamed of

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www.haaretz.com

Aquarius Engines says it developed new Hydrogen engine model

The company's findings were confirmed in third-party tests conducted by Austrian engineering firm AVL-Schrick, the company added.

www.jpost.com

You can build a turbojet engine but we have F-35s (Which we build the wings and advanced helmet for) and you don't, so who won?

 

[Foinikas]

You build stuff no one buys, we build stuff we can sell and profit, and buy what we need, fit to our purpose.

We don't need to build frigates and destroyers, those are big, bulky and have no advantage over Israeli Saar 6 and Saar 5 corvettes in naval combat, even the huge 11,000 tons Moskva missile cruiser, protected by S-300F and OSA missiles was easily sunk by two anti ship missiles. In the end what's important is :

electronic warfare (Which even the British, renowned for their navy, are using: https://elbitsystems.com/pr-new/elb...ronic-warfare-capabilities-to-the-royal-navy/)

Radar (MF-STAR)

missile interceptors (Barak 8 which shot down 2 Iskander missiles in Azerbaijan and Iron Dome with the most interceptions and highest interception rate ever)

And anti ship missiles (Gabriel V, Blue Spear, used by Israel, Singapore, Finland, Estonia with 400+ km range) all of which Israel is superior at.

We can build Corvettes, Saar 72 and Saar 62 for example. But they're only for export. But we can buy German corvettes and submarines in a massive discount, making it not worth for us to build them for IDF use.

About engines, we design them and sell the licenses for them, this is usually the business model of many Israeli companies (selling software, designs, patents or the company itself, as we call it an "exit", as opposed to manufacturing) as Israel is already small with very low unemployment rate.
Here is one example:

A little startup that could: Aquarius builds an engine others only dreamed of

***

www.haaretz.com

Aquarius Engines says it developed new Hydrogen engine model

The company's findings were confirmed in third-party tests conducted by Austrian engineering firm AVL-Schrick, the company added.

www.jpost.com

You can build a turbojet engine but we have F-35s (Which we build the wings and advanced helmet for) and you don't, so who won?

Remind him that it was Israeli UAVs that inspired Turkey to start making UAVs and UCAVs.

He also doesn't know that Israel has little need for a navy because of the relatively small area the Israeli State has to cover at sea and no islands. Besides,anyone trying to invade Israel from the sea,will be met with dozens of anti-ship missiles and the Israeli Air Force.

If Turkey has developed Turbofan engines,why haven't they built the TFX and Mius yet?

Currently,Iron Dome,Spyder,David's Sling along with...what else do you guys have? Patriot? All that are technologically superior to Turkish Air Defence systems and battle tested.

Ze ze yom hadin
tzahal shuv makeh bachem

 

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You build stuff no one buys, we build stuff we can sell and profit, and buy what we need, fit to our purpose.

Turkiye sells UCAVs like hot cake

Nobody wants İsraeli trash HERON
but many Countries including NATO Members buys Turkish UCAVs to hunt Russian military hardware

Turkiye sold AFVs , light Tank , MLRS , Missiles , Targeting Pods , Radars , EW Systems , Attack Helicopters , Corvettes , Warships , Tankers , Naval Platforms and many more

Turkish Defense Industry exported 228 products to 170 Countries​

Turkish Defense Industry exported 228 products to 170 Countries

The Turkish defense industry has exported 228 products to 170 countries in several geographies within the past ten years, Presidency of Defense Industries (SSB) Chairperson Ismail Demir said on Saturday While only 62 defense projects were carried out nearly 20 years ago, today this number has...

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We don't need to build frigates and destroyers, those are big, bulky and have no advantage over Israeli Saar 6 and Saar 5 corvettes in naval combat, even the huge 11,000 tons Moskva missile cruiser, protected by S-300F and OSA missiles was easily sunk by two anti ship missiles. In the end what's important is :

so pathetic excuse

full of American,French,German technologies from JERICO Ballistic Missiles to nuclear , from Air Defense Systems to Corvettes

 

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Remind him that it was Israeli UAVs that inspired Turkey to start making UAVs and UCAVs.

Turkish UCAV technology is nothing to do with trash Israeli Heron

but Israeli Air Defense Systems have been developed by American helping
Boeing , Raytheon

 

[Beny Karachun]

Turkiye sells UCAVs like hot cake

Nobody wants İsraeli trash HERON
but many Countries including NATO Members buys Turkish UCAVs to hunt Russian military hardware

Turkiye sold AFVs , light Tank , MLRS , Missiles , Targeting Pods , Radars , EW Systems , Attack Helicopters , Corvettes , Warships , Tankers , Naval Platforms and many more

Turkish Defense Industry exported 228 products to 170 Countries​

Turkish Defense Industry exported 228 products to 170 Countries

The Turkish defense industry has exported 228 products to 170 countries in several geographies within the past ten years, Presidency of Defense Industries (SSB) Chairperson Ismail Demir said on Saturday While only 62 defense projects were carried out nearly 20 years ago, today this number has...

defence.pk

Hermes 900:

Hermes 450:

Harop:

Skylark:

Uvision suicide drones users: Israel and US, and soon many IFVs will use them

US Marine Corps to buy UVision Hero-120 loitering munition

The US Marine Corps plans to acquire an undisclosed number of UVision Hero-120 loitering munitions to be mounted and launched from two types of armoured ground vehicles and an autonomous boat.

www.flightglobal.com

Heron:

Eitan drone:

 

[Attila the Hun]

Turkish UCAV technology is nothing to do with trash Israeli Heron

but Israeli Air Defense Systems have been developed by American helping
Boeing , Raytheon

Stop these pointless troll threads. and if you're going to troll do it right.

 

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Hermes 900:
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Hermes 450:
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Harop:
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Skylark:
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Uvision suicide drones users: Israel and US, and soon many IFVs will use them

US Marine Corps to buy UVision Hero-120 loitering munition

The US Marine Corps plans to acquire an undisclosed number of UVision Hero-120 loitering munitions to be mounted and launched from two types of armoured ground vehicles and an autonomous boat.

www.flightglobal.com

Heron:
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Eitan drone:

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Not İsraeli HERON , HERMES-900/450 , but Turkish TB-2 UCAVs hunted Russian military hardware in Syria,Azerbaijan,Libya and Ukraine

Turkiye sells TB-2 UCAVs like hot cake
Nobody wants İsraeli UCAVs .... your time is over


not Israel , but Turkiye has put forward a "new military doctrine" in the world to destroy enemy Tanks,Howitzers,AFVs,MLRS,Air Defense Systems by UCAVs

Stop these pointless troll threads. and if you're going to troll do it right.

another jewish cock sucker

 

[Attila the Hun]

Not trash İsraeli HERON , HERMES-900/450 , but Turkish TB-2 UCAVs hunted Russian military hardware in Syria,Azerbaijan,Libya and Ukraine

Turkiye sells TB-2 UCAVs like hot cake
Nobody wants İsraeli UCAVs .... your time is over


not Israel , but Turkiye has put forward a "new military doctrine" in the world to destroy enemy Tanks,Howitzers,AFVs,MLRS,Air Defense Systems by UCAVs



another jewish cock sucker

I am Turkish. You are the Jew here. lmao

Stop all this Jewish troll threads, you friggin kikes

 

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You can build a turbojet engine but we have F-35s (Which we build the wings and advanced helmet for) and you don't, so who won?

HELMET ? so funny

Turkiye has TAI to produce most critical part of F-35 ( fuselage )

Turkiye has KALE-AERO to produce most critical parts of F-35's engine

Turkiye has ASELSAN for everything from HELMET to AESA Radar , from EW suite to E/O Systems and targeting pod for the TFX project

and Turkiye will win in near future with over 750 military projects



USA blocked sale of UCAVs to Turkiye
and Turkiye was become Drone super power in the world with its own UCAVs TB-2 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR and AKINCI

Sooner or later Turkiye will also become Stealth Fighter Jet power in the world

Turkiye develops its own KIZILELMA and TFX projects

KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
first flight : 2023
in service : 2025

Endurance : 5 Hours
Service ceiling : 40,000 ft
Cruise speed : supersonic 1,4 mach
Payload : 1.5 Tons

-- AESA radar and next-generation avionics, sensor fusion
-- Internal weapon stations
-- Stealth flight capability
-- The ability to hide from Radars
-- Aggressive maneuverability with delta canard and vertical stabilizers
-- Smart fleet autonomy equipped with artificial intelligence
-- Turbofan engine

The KIZILELMA will be able to fight against the highest capacity Fighter Jets

stealth KIZILELMA can detect Rafale , MIG-29M2 , SU-35 , F-15 ,F-16V before they detect KIZILELMA and game over in BVR combat

 

[Beny Karachun]

Not trash İsraeli HERON , HERMES-450 , but Turkish TB-2 UCAVs hunted Russian military hardware in Syria,Azerbaijan,Libya and Ukraine

Turkiye sells TB-2 UCAVs like hot cake
Nobody wants İsraeli UCAVs .... your time is over

Lol, Harop drones hunted Russian military hardware as well, S-300 and TOR-M2 were engaged only with HAROP

Ukraine doesn't operate Israeli drones because of Israel's geopolitical issues with Russia.

TB-2 has no advantage over other drones, in fact it's worse in every aspect, countries only buy it as a cheap alternative to better drones. You'll never see a first rate country buy Turkish weapons/drones, only 3rd world countries.

HELMET ? so funny

Turkiye has TAI to produce most critical part of F-35 ( fuselage )

Turkiye has KALE-AERO to produce most critical parts of F-35's engine

Turkiye has ASELSAN for everything from HELMET to AESA Radar , from EW suite to E/O Systems and targeting pod for the TFX project

and Turkiye will win in near future with over 750 military projects



USA blocked sale of UCAVs to Turkiye
and Turkiye was become Drone super power in the world with its own UCAVs TB-2 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR and AKINCI

Sooner or later Turkiye will also become Stealth Fighter Jet power in the world
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Turkiye develops its own KIZILELMA and TFX projects

KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
first flight : 2023
in service : 2025

Endurance : 5 Hours
Service ceiling : 40,000 ft
Cruise speed : supersonic 1,4 mach
Payload : 1.5 Tons

-- AESA radar and next-generation avionics, sensor fusion
-- Internal weapon stations
-- Stealth flight capability
-- The ability to hide from Radars
-- Aggressive maneuverability with delta canard and vertical stabilizers
-- Smart fleet autonomy equipped with artificial intelligence
-- Turbofan engine
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The KIZILELMA will be able to fight against the highest capacity Fighter Jets

stealth KIZILELMA can detect Rafale , MIG-29M2 , SU-35 , F-15 ,F-16V before they detect KIZILELMA and game over in BVR combat

The Helmet is arguably the most complicated piece of technology to make, it has to be integrated with every part of the jet.

As for the rest of your post, don't count your chickens before they hatch out of their egg, I remember you saying "Turkey will have 100 F-35s, Israel will have 50 F-35s"

 

[Beny Karachun]

so pathetic excuse

full of American,French,German technologies from JERICO Ballistic Missiles to nuclear , from Air Defense Systems to Corvettes

Lol, face it, only 3rd world countries buy Turkish complete weapon systems. Israeli weapons are better, more advanced, and that's why everyone works with us to develop weapons and that's why everyone wants our weapons.

 

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Lol, Harop drones hunted Russian military hardware as well, S-300 and TOR-M2 were engaged only with HAROP

Ukraine doesn't operate Israeli drones because of Israel's geopolitical issues with Russia.

HAROP is a Kamikaze Drone , not UCAV

Turkish TB-2 UCAVs also destroyed Russian AD Systems PANTSIR , TOR , BUK , OSA


and Israeli UCAVs HERON , HERMES wont work ... no any success to destroy Air Defense Systems

but Azerbaijan used Turkish and İsraeli technologies to destroy Armenian military targets

 

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TB-2 has no advantage over other drones, in fact it's worse in every aspect, countries only buy it as a cheap alternative to better drones. You'll never see a first rate country buy Turkish weapons/drones, only 3rd world countries.

You are so pathetic ..

trash İsraeli UCAVs have no any success to destroy Air Defense Systems,Tanks,Howitzers,MLRS


We have seen trash İsraeli technology on HERONs
and Turkiye replaced İsraeli E/O System with Turkish Aselsan E/O System
trash İsraeli HERON sucks in bad weather

 

[Foinikas]

Turkish UCAV technology is nothing to do with trash Israeli Heron

but Israeli Air Defense Systems have been developed by American helping
Boeing , Raytheon

Trash Heron? Harop? Harpy?

Lol you're ignorant.Go back to telemarketing.

trash İsraeli UCAVs have no any success to destroy Air Defense Systems,Tanks,Howitzers,MLRS

NKR war. Azerbaijan had Israeli UCAVs. Learn history. Pathetic pathetic.

 

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Lol, face it, only 3rd world countries buy Turkish complete weapon systems. Israeli weapons are better, more advanced, and that's why everyone works with us to develop weapons and that's why everyone wants our weapons.

LOL you compare tiny Israel with Turkiye ... know your place

Everyone USA,France,Germany helped Israel to develop many things from JERICO Ballistic Missiles to Nuclear , from Air Defense Systems to Corvettes

İsrael is only ahead Turkiye in AD Systems ... thanks to American Boeing and Raytheon



OMTAS Missile is superior to American JAVELIN and ISRAELI SPIKE
SOM air launched Cruise Missile is superior to Israeli POPEYE and DELILAH

Israel has no its own Attack Helicopter protect
Israel has no its own Utility project
Israel has no its own Trainer and light attack Jet project
Israel has no its own unmanned stealth Fighter Jet project
Israel has no its own stealth Fighter Jet project
Israel has no its own Corvette project
Israel has no its own Frigate project
Israel has no its own Destroyer project
Israel has no its own Submarine project
Israel has no its own LST , LHD , Aircraft Carrier project
Israel has no its own turbojet , turbofan , turboshaft engine technologies
and many more



Pakistan , Indonesia , Malesia , Poland , The UAE , Qatar , S.Arabia , Algeria , Ukraine have strong militaries and bought Turkish weapons