Govt mulls ‘military offensive’ against TTP

[sparten]

LOL The Pakistani army didn't use drones when it was being swarmed by attacks during the height of WoT. To expect the Pakistani army to utilise drones now is wishful thinking.

We used UAV and AirPower constantly. What kind of stupid post is that?

 

[Dalit]

We used UAV and AirPower constantly. What kind of stupid post is that?

No you didn't. The Pakistani security forces have on a very few occassions used a drone in Afghanistan. You have never constantly used UAV drones to strike in Afghanistan.

 

[sparten]

Well done idiots. Who could have guessed that talks, a ceasefire and releasing militants would backfire? Any one with two functioning brain cells.

The good news, if any, is that (at the risk of this becoming famous last words), they seem to have much limited reach and striking ability compared to their heyday or even from a few years back.

Hit them hard. Hit often. And court martial the bastards who thought talka was a good idea.

No you didn't.

Falco, Flamingo, Shapar and Burraq UAV were used on an industrial extent. We ended the war with company commanded controlling their own drones.

 

[ghazi52]

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EDITORIAL:
Two is a trend, they say in the world of data analytics. And considering that Afghan border forces have twice lobbed mortar and artillery fire across the Chaman border into civilian areas on the Pakistani side, causing deaths and injuries to innocent men, women and children, it’s time for Islamabad to treat this hostility as a new trend in Pak-Afghan relations.

According to reports, the first incident took place when some Afghan nationals were refused entry into Pakistan because they lacked necessary travel documentation, which upset Taliban fighters manning the border enough to launch an unprovoked, unjustified mortar attack on Pakistani civilians. And just when the local press began questioning the government’s silence on the issue, Defence Minister Khwaja Asif informed parliament that Kabul had “apologised” and that was the end of the matter.

But then came the second attack which, according to the military, targeted soldiers repairing the border fence that was damaged in the first incident. Then the firing continued throughout the day leaving one more civilian dead and many more injured once again. This time, though, Kabul did not apologise, instead it blamed Pakistan for firing first; which, according to local people, is not how it went down. Surely, this calls for re-examining Pakistan’s unconditional support to the Afghan government since the Taliban returned to power, especially at a time when they face crippling international isolation.

This is not the first time the Taliban have given Islamabad reason to be concerned. Soon after regaining power they went back on their word and refused to crack down on TTP (Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan) pockets on their side of the border. It was, in fact, the Taliban that pushed Islamabad into talks with TTP, which allowed the militia to regroup, unilaterally withdraw from the ceasefire and resume its “war” on the state of Pakistan. It’s also true that the Taliban, unlike other Afghan administrations that have been more hostile to Pakistan, do not consider the Durand Line a serious, legitimate border and were never happy with the border fence which Islamabad erected as a last resort because there was no other way of checking militant movement into Pakistan. And it is certain that they will not stop attacking it, and areas around it, every now and then regardless of the state of their relations with Islamabad at any given point in time.

Pakistan needs to draw a line and convey very clearly to Kabul that crossing it ever again will have very serious consequences. If they don’t consider the relationship with Pakistan worth protecting and nurturing, even though it is their only link with the outside world and an on-ground game-changer when they are desperate for aid, then Islamabad should not bend over backwards for them any longer either.

They forget that they would never have survived the long war with occupying forces, much less win it, without Pakistan. And it is just not in our strategic interest to present their humane side to the world, and face stiff criticism for it, when they feel that they can kill our women and children and get away with it.

Kabul is advised to take a step back and check its new policy. It is already isolated, while facing stiff resistance from the so-called Islamic State (IS) and other such militias on the ground, and now it is antagonising its only pillar of support. The Pakistani military knows very well how to ensure peace inside its borders. Last time it stopped short of pursuing its enemies across the Afghan border. But if the Afghan government is bent upon testing its patience, as well as its capability, it might just get what it is begging for.

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[mudas777]

Is it not the same army who allowed TTP members to resettle in Pakistan again and have made contract with them. Why are we complaining now, what this army was expecting when signing the contracts and letting them to come back to Pakistan.

 

[Imran Khan]

Is it not the same army who allowed TTP members to resettle in Pakistan again and have made contract with them. Why are we complaining now, what this army was expecting when signing the contracts and letting them to come back to Pakistan.

its not same ISI whom let ahsan ullah ahsan go ???????????????

We used UAV and AirPower constantly. What kind of stupid post is that?

when how where ?????????????????

 

[mudas777]

its not same ISI whom let ahsan ullah ahsan go ???????????????

Our own ISI is a fraud and playing with the security of the country and think people are fool.

 

[SQ8]

Military offensives need money as well - will the IMF fund that?

 

[Dalit]

Well done idiots. Who could have guessed that talks, a ceasefire and releasing militants would backfire? Any one with two functioning brain cells.

The good news, if any, is that (at the risk of this becoming famous last words), they seem to have much limited reach and striking ability compared to their heyday or even from a few years back.

Hit them hard. Hit often. And court martial the bastards who thought talka was a good idea.


Falco, Flamingo, Shapar and Burraq UAV were used on an industrial extent. We ended the war with company commanded controlling their own drones.

Falco is the only Italian UAV that the Pak army used on a very few occasions. This was back then the only armed UAV the Pak army possessed. There is absolutely no truth in Pak army using armed drones extensively to strike in Afghanistan.

Do you really think that the Pak army was allowed to strike in Afghanistan where US/NATO forces were operating day and night?

I got news for you. The Pak army is not going to use any armed drones to strike TTP in Afghanistan. Even when US/NATO have exited Afghanistan. No matter how much you and I would like that to be the case.

 

[Areesh]

Bakwas

 

[HttpError]

IK's biggest weakness was his soft corner for Taliban thus making him Taliban sympathizer.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Mulls!?! Take the hell out of these bastards. What are TB2s, micro munitions, 155mm guns etc. for??? Get inside the nests and dens of these snakes and foxes.....

IK's biggest weakness was his soft corner for Taliban thus making him Taliban sympathizer.

IK?!? Bajwa was checking and controlling the poop and peep of the politicians while running the largest mafia family business, and he couldn't take action against the terrorists!!!

 

[Menace2Society]

So it was never because of NATO prescence.

You know where their bases are. You know Taliban are failing to take action. Dominate their skies and pound them until they surrender. No peace talks, no negotiations. Surrender or die.

 

[hussain0216]

After all these years the government and military must know bases and hide outs of TTP, BLA. They should be targeted directly in Afghanistan and Iran with a short warning window given to both countries out of courtesy. These bases networks need total destruction for the terrorism to be stemmed.

The problems isn't the bases



Everyone keeps doing the same thing,,

It's the LOCALS the tribals are trash and involved in this from the beginning


@Mirzali Khan described these people as innocent and gharitmand, and I was like WTF, they are trash and guilty of decades of jahilat that has led to this

They keep saying this is a dollar war as if someone would pay for worthless afghan blood



These people are guilty, and unless and until you deal with them this mess is inevitable




The TTP have been laying low for a year or so and preparing, so action will need to be taken to take the war to them,, the border will need to be stronger then ever,, afghan refugees will need to be more controlled then ever and you will have to act against the pashtun nationalists who will be at the forefront trying to light fires for every dead terrorist

 

[That Guy]

Falco is the only Italian UAV that the Pak army used on a very few occasions. This was back then the only armed UAV the Pak army possessed. There is absolutely no truth in Pak army using armed drones extensively to strike in Afghanistan.

Do you really think that the Pak army was allowed to strike in Afghanistan where US/NATO forces were operating day and night?

I got news for you. The Pak army is not going to use any armed drones to strike TTP in Afghanistan. Even when US/NATO have exited Afghanistan. No matter how much you and I would like that to be the case.

1 correction: the Pakistani Falcos were never armed. They were Pakistan's first high tech drones in service, but Italy rejected arming them for Pakistan due to EU regulations. AlAlso while Pakistan did try to modify and arm the Falco themselves, the project failed. Eventually, this effort led to Pakistan buying the CH-3 UCAV and Blue Arrow laser guided AGM, and reverse engineering them, thus creating the Burraq/Shahpur UCAV and Barq laser guided AGM. Basically, Pakistan removed Chinese sensors and engines and replaced them with domestic or European solutions.