Govt mulls ‘military offensive’ against TTP

[VCheng]

that was bad idea . you know very well why it was bad . USA was killing more civilians then terrorists simply because the way they were using drone was stupid . they give chips to local spies to instal on targets . and local spies start using these chips to take revanges and some cases they were paid to do so . another issue was USA was unaware of locals and sometime hit marriages and madrasas even damn girgas .

Of course the hallowed Pak Army can do a perfect job in comparison to the buffoonery of the idiotic Yanks, right?

Military offensives need money as well - will the IMF fund that?

That would not be covered by the IMF Charter.

 

[Goritoes]

Remember the time when PDF used to get so upset at the drone strikes done by the evil Uncle Sam? Do we want to go back to that?

American drones will be counter productive, Plus Americans will have no sympathy towards civilian lives, I hope Pakistan themselves use their drones, but i doubt this will happen.

 

[undercover JIX]

Military offensives need money as well - will the IMF fund that?

Do we need IMF funding for our day to day job/responsibilities?

 

[Imran Khan]

Of course the hallowed Pak Army can do a perfect job in comparison to the buffoonery of the idiotic Yanks, right?



That would not be covered by the IMF Charter.

at least paksitnais know what is marriage and what is janaza then terrorist gathering .

 

[VCheng]

American drones will be counter productive, Plus Americans will have no sympathy towards civilian lives, I hope Pakistan themselves use their drones, but i doubt this will happen.

So obviously the answer to the question: Do we want to go back to that? is NO. But everybody should know that is Pakistan will not clean up its backyard, USA will, in its own way, as before.

at least paksitnais know what is marriage and what is janaza then terrorist gathering .

Such events can only be as accurate as the information supplied, that is all. Do you really believe the military's claims that no non-terrorists were killed during Operation Rah-e-Raast?

 

[Goritoes]

So obviously the answer to the question: Do we want to go back to that? is NO. But everybody should know that is Pakistan will not clean up its backyard, USA will, in its own way, as before.

America will only serve its own interest, and right now its in their ally (India) interest to destabilize a already destabilized Pakistan, American drones will make things work and now America has no direct stake in this conflict because their forces are no long in Afghanistan, so any further Attacks on Kabul from America if done from Pakistan will hurt Pakistan not America.

 

[VCheng]

destabilize a already destabilized Pakistan

That remains a popular, but totally false premise. No one, including USA and China, want a nuclear armed country destabilized. If anything, it is Pakistan that is destabilizing itself by accelerating its economic collapse.

 

[Goritoes]

That remains a popular, but totally false premise. No one, including USA and China, want a nuclear armed country destabilized. If anything, it is Pakistan that is destabilizing itself by accelerating its economic collapse.

False premise based on what ? America serve its interest and right now destabilizing Pakistan further is in their and their ally (India's) Interests, Of course our people/army is equally to be blamed but America has a big share in creating chaos around the world, either by covert or overt means.

 

[Dalit]

1 correction: the Pakistani Falcos were never armed. They were Pakistan's first high tech drones in service, but Italy rejected arming them for Pakistan due to EU regulations. AlAlso while Pakistan did try to modify and arm the Falco themselves, the project failed. Eventually, this effort led to Pakistan buying the CH-3 UCAV and Blue Arrow laser guided AGM, and reverse engineering them, thus creating the Burraq/Shahpur UCAV and Barq laser guided AGM. Basically, Pakistan removed Chinese sensors and engines and replaced them with domestic or European solutions.

It is a long while ago. I remember that Pakistan was doing a trial with armed Falco's back in the day. If my memory serves me correctly, Pakistan even claimed to have carried out an attack in Afghanistan using an armed drone. The Afghan government made a lot of noise. I believe it was the Falco or that was the assumption back then.

 

[VCheng]

right now destabilizing Pakistan further is in their and their ally (India's) Interests

Please provide the evidence for this claim. The truth remains that Pakistan itself is at fault, and no one else, for its present predicament.

 

[Goritoes]

Please provide the evidence for this claim. The truth remains that Pakistan itself is at fault, and no one else, for its present predicament.

You want evidence for Indians wanting to Destabilize Pakistan ? Like Really ? lol

 

[VCheng]

You want evidence for Indians wanting to Destabilize Pakistan ? Like Really ? lol

LOL. USA has nothing to do with that all, as you keep claiming. Backtracking already, eh?

 

[Goritoes]

LOL. USA has nothing to do with that all, as you keep claiming. Backtracking already, eh?

Backtracking on what ? I said US will/is helping India in destabilizing Pakistan via Balochistan and Afghan border, you want me to bring you Classified document from Pentagon ? LOL, don't pull out that tucker carlson face on me dude it won't work haha

 

[That Guy]

It is a long while ago. I remember that Pakistan was doing a trial with armed Falco's back in the day. If my memory serves me correctly, Pakistan even claimed to have carried out an attack in Afghanistan using an armed drone. The Afghan government made a lot of noise. I believe it was the Falco or that was the assumption back then.

I believe the attack was conducted using the prototype Burraq drone. While I have no proof, I have heard that there were previous attempts to use drones in Afghanistan using the CH-3 and Blue Arrow missile, but constant failure to either hit the target or even explode forced Pakiatan to replace Chinese sensors, which resulted in other things being replaced and eventually becoming a brand new drones which just happened to have the CH-3 skin. Finally having a viable attack drone, Pakistan wasn't about to just give up, and opted to just replace the parts that were shit.

Of course, Chinese sensors are some of the best available now a days, but back then they had a terrible reputation.

 

[VCheng]

US will help India in destabilizing Pakistan via Balochistan and Afghan border

Simply a favorite conspiracy theory peddled here endlessly, nothing more. I can even tell you that USA and China have a joint task force to ensure Pakistan's continued stability so that Xinjiang and mainland USA remain safe.

I will stop here, believe what you will. Your ignorance will not affect the reality one bit.