Give kashmir or take kashmir. Make up your mind as enemy is getting bold

[VCheng]

Kashmir issue is one of jealousy between people of the two countries, rather than an issue of land or power. It will continue to drag on till people in both countries become educated enough to put jealousy aside and realize it's a waste of time, energy and resources. Development is the only way to solve it.

Besides, there is enough interest among China, USA and Russia to keep this going since it provides a valuable market for export of arms.

Either education, or economic collapse, will hasten a solution.

 

[MarkovChain]

Either education, or economic collapse, will hasten a solution.

Economic collapse will just lead to one side taking advantage of the situation - making things worse.

 

[VCheng]

Economic collapse will just lead to one side taking advantage of the situation - making things worse.

To the winner belong the spoils, whichever side it might be.

 

[MarkovChain]

To the winner belong the spoils, whichever side it might be.

The ideal solution would be a case where there is NO winner and where a compromise is reached so that both sides can claim victory.

Talking purely from a business perspective, India and Pak spend close to $40billion a year on the Kashmir issue. Kashmir being a tourist hotspot (or Switzerland of the east if you want to call it that way) will fetch another $10b in tourism. That's $50b a year saved just by cooperating which can be split between the two countries for development. But hey, nationalism takes priority over rationalism. What do I know?

 

[VCheng]

The ideal solution would be a case where there is NO winner and where a compromise is reached so that both sides can claim victory.

Talking purely from a business perspective, India and Pak spend close to $40billion a year on the Kashmir issue. Kashmir being a tourist hotspot (or Switzerland of the east if you want to call it that way) will fetch another $10b in tourism. That's $50b a year saved just by cooperating which can be split between the two countries for development. But hey, nationalism takes priority over rationalism. What do I know?

I would agree with what you have said above, and rightly so.

 

[tsinga]

This comedown and preparation for a settlement is inevitable over time.

It is already an accepted solution in India.

 

[VCheng]

It is already an accepted solution in India.

Has India formally made an offer to convert the Loc/AGPL into a permanent recognized international border?

 

[tsinga]

Has India formally made an offer to convert the Loc/AGPL into a permanent recognized international border?

No. But India won't offer anything- good or bad.

It is a defacto accepted by most Indians that this is the only viable solution.

Its Pakistani people who have to come to terms with this fact now.

 

[VCheng]

No. But India won't offer anything- good or bad.

It is a defacto accepted by most Indians that this is the only viable solution.

Its Pakistani people who have to come to terms with this fact now.

A formal offer by India would go a long way in getting Pakistan to accept the facts on the ground.

 

[Jf Thunder]

What breaking up your country? Eh, did you blank out '71? We are in no hurry for the rest.

44 years, still nothing

Forget everything else, war is fought on the basis of oil. Pakistan can sustain 2 weeks at max. 3 if civilian usage is controlled. India can outrun

hmm did we or did we not fight for almost three weeks in 1965? and 4 weeks in 1971?

 

[Screambowl]

Has India formally made an offer to convert the Loc/AGPL into a permanent recognized international border?

FYI the LOC is also disputed so unless until that is resolved no transformation of any kind.

 

[deepak.chauhan2312]

And that army is indian army called Paper Lions according to wiki leaks.

do read Wikipedia too.

 

[MarkovChain]

And that army is indian army called Paper Lions according to wiki leaks.

Pakistani media publish fake WikiLeaks cables attacking India | World news | The Guardian

 

[JonAsad]

The enemy is getting stupid to be honest -

Option 1. Pakistan peacefully gives back occupied Princely state of J&K, including Gilgit Baltistan.
Option 2. India takes it back through war and breaks up Pakistan in pieces.

As an Indian citizen, no other option is acceptable to me.

There is an option 3. If you care to ask-

 

[Skywalker]

and sir what about other army if they are all lions and their leader too is Lion and there are more than 13 lakh of those will it be enough to have a lion leader

Lions don't eat vegetables.