Give kashmir or take kashmir. Make up your mind as enemy is getting bold

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India is doing pretty well as it is.. There is no need for it to compromise on its position on Kashmir. There is nothing that Pakistan can bring to the table that can change the situation.

Okay... I hope time will change your stance...

 

[feedermen]

Okay... I hope time will change your stance...

Things will only get better for India with time..

 

[kadamba-warrior]

Distribute half of nukes across international border telling world we wont use them unless india violates international border and start our offensive from north from siachin and kargil sectors and arm Kashmiri youth let the two armies fight and the stronger will be winner and we all know who will that be.

If we can deter india from international border and fight a localized war in Kashmir with the help of kashmiries I am sure we can win it in less than a month.

They don't want to use swords/guns and fight face-to-face, but threaten to launch Nuclear-tipped missiles from the safety and comfort of their underground bunkers! And I thought face-to-face fighting was for more courageous mard-e-momins like you guys!!

Don't you guys boast of yourselves as some sort of supernatural martial clan while ridiculing Indian Military as unfit for fighting?

 

[HariPrasad]

@Horus @Aether @pakdefender @Windjammer @Rashid Mahmood @Akheilos @Areesh @Zarvan @ChineseTiger1986 @syedali73

I would like to have your professional views on localized Kashmir war highlighting equipment required and what we have have and what we need and the surprises we may face from IA.

You missed @pher, @BuddhaPalm ,@cirr ,@Luca1 etc. They are also expert in this matter like they list you quoted.

 

[feedermen]

Pakistan's only option is to give Kashmir. Taking Kashmir is not an option.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

India would never give its Kashmir

But yes in future we may try to get Azad kashmir

 

[Gandhi follower]

Pakistan should concentrate on how to get the next instalment from IMF. War is a costly affair

 

[third eye]

Interesting & gratifying that posters here have begun to realise the hopelessness of Pak stance thus far.

Modi has nothing to do with Muslim killing even Court of India has given him clean chit...He is cleared from all cases. Even many Muslims voted for BJP.. You must see the results of UP, Jharkand, tripura, maharashtra and Assam.
War is not a solution. It only brings destruction.
Just keep calm and quite, and only reply them hard from political statements .
We should not allow anyone to use our land against any country. ..We should Arrest chief of banned organisation "HafiZ Saeed" and others including lal masjid Mullah. ....We already have inner threats and mentality which we must defeat.

A sane post. If only Pak could do the part underlined above, it would save itself & the region so much grief.

Option 3: Convert the LoC/AGPL into a permanent and recognized international border.

This unfortunately is the only workable solution.

It would be a HUGE comedown for both nations but leaders on both sides should work on preparing their respective nations for this

Keeping in mind indian hatred and desire to make loc the border I have following two solutions and would like your input.

Where are you getting your inputs from ?

1. Tunneling under the Indus ? & where will the water go which the satellites of the world not be able to pick up ? Is it a one time thing or for life ? If its forever why would India risk being called a violator of the IWT - the only treaty that has stood the test of wars & animosity ?

2. Localising the war to J&K : This is the stupidity Pak Generals have forever attempted . They have always ended up as wiser but sadder men. Pak & posters like you to de compartmentalise your minds. J&K is India - even the assembly acceded to India irrevocably in 1953. An attack of J&K is an attack on India & it therefore reserves the right to retaliate in an area & time of its own choosing - through land, sea, air, space, afghanistan .. you name it.

Wars my young friend as not cricket games played in the colony amongst young boys where you can frame local rules. Once started , all bets are off. Even after losing half your nation you people persist in silly dreams !

What then is the answer ?

The answer to my mind lies in openly accepting something which both parties do privately but do not have the courage to accept openly. We have reconciled to each others existence & presence.

We have to reconcile to our Geography, make the LC an IB, stop coveting what the other has and get on with our lives.

How can Pak not expect retaliation in full when it allows its territory to be used by whom it conveniently calls ' Non State Players " ? US could not accept it so it took out OBL.

Now you may argue that India is not US - you would be right, But US does not share a disputed land boundary with Pakistan too.

Therefore India will do what it takes to hit back - in fact you guys are already being systematically hit from within while you wait for the shooting war to start !

Far too long has Pak banked on a weak Govt in New Delhi.

No, the present attitude of Pakistan is not tenable. It is destroying itself & when termites bring down the house next door those in its vicinity also get impacted.

Pak must stop this use of terrorism as an instrument of unstated state policy.

The call is yours.

 

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Things will only get better for India with time..

Yes for you and for us and for everyone...

 

[VCheng]

This unfortunately is the only workable solution.

It would be a HUGE comedown for both nations but leaders on both sides should work on preparing their respective nations for this

This comedown and preparation for a settlement is inevitable over time.

 

[ZooZoo]

Give our men back..

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Hmmmmm.......

If we can deter india from international border and fight a localized war in Kashmir with the help of kashmiries I am sure we can win it in less than a month.

 

[Patriotic Strategist]

such a professional mind u have

 

[definitelynotIndian]

LOC should be made permanent but I do not think China will let Pakistan do that.

 

[MarkovChain]

This comedown and preparation for a settlement is inevitable over time.

Kashmir issue is one of jealousy between people of the two countries, rather than an issue of land or power. It will continue to drag on till people in both countries become educated enough to put jealousy aside and realize it's a waste of time, energy and resources. Development is the only way to solve it.

Besides, there is enough interest among China, USA and Russia to keep this going since it provides a valuable market for export of arms.