Girl from Rabwah becomes World Record Holder at age 11

[Spring Onion]

Qadiani mafia seems to put their religion above nationality. The heading said it all before the poster changed heading to "Girl from Rabwa".

I have no issue if they put their religion before the nationality but the amusing thing is that the opening poster is trying to prove as if rabwah is outside Pakistan.
The title itself shows that our qadyani member here is playing a victim card even over such a wonderful achievement by this brilliant Pakistani girl.

Congrats to the girl and her parents.

and do not bring religion into every thread dear OP

 

[Dubious]

Congrats! May she be blessed with more success

 

[untitled]

9 in each band... Impressive

That means her English must be better than 90% of members here

 

[Dubious]

I think the mention of religion is not that important but the issue I was highlighting in a previous post is that a large number of Pakistani Ahmadis' achievements are undermined because of the issue of faith. So although I agree she should be called a Pakistani girl but the problem that has to be addressed is that the society itself took the lead in differentiating between Pakistani Ahmadis and Pakistani non Ahmadis by signaling out one community to pursue sectarian policies at a state level. So it is a natural reaction exhibited by some Pakistani Ahmadis when they identify strongly with their religion. Bashing Ahmadis for choosing to be identified as Ahmadis is not fair, since it was the state that took the lead in this matter.

I mentioned this before and my post were deleted...Let say the news was posted Pakistani achieved this and that....Tell me honestly, how many will ask if she is Ahmadi, shia, sunni or whatever? How many will think of asking such a question let alone undermine it?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Why blame Muslims here when their disbelief is mentioned in the Constitution? I heard you have to declare the finality of Prophet hood in applying for a passport.

I suggest you take it up with the GoP before you blame the masses. She has done really well for herself and I'm happy for her.

Khatam Nabuwat, Toheed and Risalat is a faith and a personal thing. flailing it like a weapon on the face of others is fanaticism it is not Islam. in Pakistan unfortunately we are more interested in harassing and cursing others the way they pray or their faith rather than thinking even for a moment how unislamic we are when we devote most of our faith expression in burning flags, burning homes and blowing up people

 

[VCheng]

9 in each band... Impressive

That means her English must be better than 90% of members here

Perhaps even 99%, and more impressive that she achieved it age 11. Eleven. Grade 6 or 7. Wow.

 

[VCheng]

in other news ASWJ has decided to organise rallies in support of Pakistan army

I am not going to reply to this since I have promised @Slav Defence to remain 100% serious from now on.

What we should do is to see how she was taught and try to emulate that all across the better schools first.

 

[Taygibay]

Well, to second our esteemed Field Marshall *, I just can't bring religion into it …
because not being Muslim I cannot play this tug of war of religious sectarianism **
and not being party to secret codes, I only saw a young girl on the photo, no more.

So congratulations to her first and her parents second, about whom : do we know if
any other children they schooled got even near such levels? That would show their
qualities as educators alongside the evident one of the young lady.

Yup that's what I meant..slowly build it up...

Basic "General Science" as I had it takes care of the fundamentals at a lower level, like atom, molecule, sun etc etc.

Wow, those are good fundamentals, Jango! I'm afraid these don't get through that well
everywhere even in top developed countries, 25% of Americans think the Earth is at
the center of the Solar system ( despite the etymological contradiction of Sol = Sun ).
I like that of your view but take a different view on slowly build it up. We do not grow in
the physical sense the same way from individual to individual. I don't trust we do mentally
either.
We certainly don't all do it equally or there'd be no one to notice the preponderancy of idiots.
In fact, I'd suggest a perfect school would not use calendar years for bodies of study matter.
Some matters take a mere 4 months to teach and some kids longer than that to learn them.
Progress and measurement are rounded out in the West particularly to fit the year cycle not
the teaching-learning one. It would be an ironic turn that the rigidity of this hailed system of
education kept it from performing on average as well for brilliant individuals than the "less
organized" ones of "lesser countries".
As long as the exams to be taken are well made and certified by the government, they can
be taken at different times by all, what does it matter? A supple approach favors the individual.

In my book, ethnicity, sect & religion is mostly an accident of birth. Real worth of a human being is what one achieves thru his/her efforts and inherent qualities.

Agreed and applauded to! And on top of that, I only need to judge those inherent qualities
inasmuch as danger to others and self and possible cooperation are concerned. Past that,
each human I meet is free to think and behave as they wish.
I'll welcome open ( and calm ) discussion on the particularities mentioned above if my inter-
locutor so wishes, to know and understand them better but they define you less than how you
treat the feeble or serve your community or play the game of life in general.
A feather may be blue, white, gray or brown, it is still a feather : we are birds of one flock.

Bravo again Sitara, good for Pakistan and the world to have you and good day all, Tay.

* Hello milady!

** Nor would I really wish to.

 

[Slav Defence]

I am not going to reply to this since I have promised @Slav Defence to remain 100% serious from now on.

What we should do is to see how she was taught and try to emulate that all across the better schools first.

There is nothing wrong for having some light debate.Hoever,make sure that your comments doesn't taken as an offense by other readers.It is for your own good.Maybe we were too much hard on you and this caused you to respond like that.
However,it is upto you to prove them wrong.
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Great news to see Ahmadi community moving ahead and making Pakistan proud.Go on,our prayers are with you

Regards

 

[VCheng]

There is nothing wrong for having some light debate.Hoever,make sure that your comments doesn't taken as an offense by other readers.It is for your own good.Maybe we were too much hard on you and this caused you to respond like that.
However,it is upto you to prove them wrong.
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Great news to see Ahmadi community moving ahead and making Pakistan proud.Go on,our prayers are with you

Regards

I will try my best, but you really should advise your crew to behave as well, if you are interested in being fair to everyone:

Here comes the famous Pakistanphobe badmouth. True state of affairs my foot. Gross generalization is true state of affairs? How many Muslims live in Pakistan? all of them are freakin crazy? Where are the statistics that Ahmedis are specifically persecuted in Pakistan? I was only waiting when this Pakistanphobe would come up to show solidarity with his brother-in-tongues.

Rabid and shameless propaganda from this Pakistanphobe is crossing all limits and needs some check.

@@WebMaster

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Khatam Nabuwat, Toheed and Risalat is a faith and a personal thing. flailing it like a weapon on the face of others is fanaticism it is not Islam. in Pakistan unfortunately we are more interested in harassing and cursing others the way they pray or their faith rather than thinking even for a moment how unislamic we are when we devote most of our faith expression in burning flags, burning homes and blowing up people

That should be printed on a leaflet and given to every Pakistani to keep in his pocket.

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Khatam Nabuwat, Toheed and Risalat is a faith and a personal thing. flailing it like a weapon on the face of others is fanaticism it is not Islam. in Pakistan unfortunately we are more interested in harassing and cursing others the way they pray or their faith rather than thinking even for a moment how unislamic we are when we devote most of our faith expression in burning flags, burning homes and blowing up people

Sir, if you read my post again (copied below), their belief is mentioned in law. My point was don't blame the ignorant masses, take it up with GoP.

Why blame Muslims here when their disbelief is mentioned in the Constitution? I heard you have to declare the finality of Prophet hood in applying for a passport.

I suggest you take it up with the GoP before you blame the masses. She has done really well for herself and I'm happy for her.


On off-topic matter and this is not just directed at Irfan; this is exactly what many people have experienced on PDF. It is annoying when a person posts something different and the respondent answers what he want the post to be.

An example of this post is clear to see here. I mentioned discrimination of qaddiyanis under the constituition. Blaming the ignorant masses does not wash. This matter needs to taken up with the GoP for a change in law.

So Irfan talking about fanaticism, harassing, cursing, etc is the symptom of the law.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I am not going to reply to this since I have promised @Slav Defence to remain 100% serious from now on.

What we should do is to see how she was taught and try to emulate that all across the better schools first.

did you understand the irony in my post?

to state the obvious. an organisation with genocidal mindset both verbally and practically never misses a chance to paste itself on the front page of the news and up your nose and maybe I am in a minority when I feel like throwing up when this vile organisation leads the "patriotic" marches praises the army (although its current and former members have participated in fighting a brutal war with the armed forces) yet Pakistanis and the media sees nothing wrong with that. so as NFP says, the apologists among us see nothing wrong with ASWJ and its derivatives and see them as angry "brothers" (who can question their faith eh? they are Muslims after all)
so all the hatred and frustration is then channelled against the weak and marginalised communities of Pakistan who cant push us back.

 

[Zarvan]

did you understand the irony in my post?

to state the obvious. an organisation with genocidal mindset both verbally and practically never misses a chance to paste itself on the front page of the news and up your nose and maybe I am in a minority when I feel like throwing up when this vile organisation leads the "patriotic" marches praises the army (although its current and former members have participated in fighting a brutal war with the armed forces) yet Pakistanis and the media sees nothing wrong with that. so as NFP says, the apologists among us see nothing wrong with JuD, LeT and ASWJ and see them as angry "brothers" (who can question their faith eh? they are Muslims after all)
so all the hatred and frustration is then channelled against the weak and marginalised communities of Pakistan who cant push us back.

JUD and LET and JEM never worked against Pakistan so why we should see them as enemies or any irony when they protest in favor of Army. Now as for ASWJ crackdown has begun and one major leader Ahsan Farooqi is in Jail

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I have no issue if they put their religion before the nationality but the amusing thing is that the opening poster is trying to prove as if rabwah is outside Pakistan.
The title itself shows that our qadyani member here is playing a victim card even over such a wonderful achievement by this brilliant Pakistani girl.

Congrats to the girl and her parents.

and do not bring religion into every thread dear OP

playing a victim card? as if their misgivings are ill-founded?
I wish that was true. whats next mock hazaras? by creating a mocking facebook page and celebrate double centuries?

get this. if we are not merciful to Allah's creation then we shouldnt expect any mercy in return.. we get our leaders for our sins. they will snack food from our mouths too if we continue with our bigotry

JUD and LET and JEM never worked against Pakistan so why we should see them as enemies or any irony when they protest in favor of Army. Now as for ASWJ crackdown has begun and one major leader Ahsan Farooqi is in Jail

I corrected my post I meant the derivatives of AWSJ including the TTP, ASWJ was SSP which made LeJ and other violent groups like Ghazi force etc. all genocidal in nature towards shia community , have participated in mass murder of Pakistanis and big attacks on Army and LeJ captures our Col Imam and recorded his video before executing him brutally.
I dont share the Ahmedi faith and have been mostly indifferent to their life and their persecutions but it homed on me when i see how Muslims were treated in India, Burma etc on regular bases and I saw similar stories , victim children full of hope but their lives brutally destroyed by hateful thugs.
therefore I decided to expect or demand no sympathy or mercy from others if I hold hatred towards other faiths.

problem I see here is that the talent of this girl while in Pakistan will take a secondary importance, her faith will be an issue for us and we will stag her in the eye where ever she will go in Pakistan.
I tell myself that I belong to a religion whose Prophet was a Rahmat Al Alameen yet my fellow believers dont even let the dead of this community rest in peace.