Girl from Rabwah becomes World Record Holder at age 11

[Mrc]

Jan (aur pdf account) ki amman paon tou kuch arz kron??

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Then you are clearly unaware of numerous incidents where students were expelled from universities and schools after it was found out that they were Ahmadis.

The problem is that members of the Qadiani cult gets admitted to these institutions masquerading as Muslims.The non-Muslims have 5% seat quota in certain professional universities and colleges. When they are found out they are expelled because they lied on their admission forms. It is the Qadiani cult that is trying to pretend to be Muslims while at the same time follow heretic Ghulam Kazab as the later-day prophet. The Qadiani mafia manipulates the truth and they cannot have both ways. The expulsion of Qadianis that have lied on their admission forms is legal under the constitution of Pakistan.

 

[Mrc]

I have utmost respect for qadiyani faith..they have absolute right of believing what ever they want.. inluding their faith that who ever does not believe in mirza sahib to be a prophet is a kafir. Derived from the rule that you cannot b muslim just by believing in jesus..there was another prophet (SAW) after jesus.. same way you cannot b muslim by believing in prophet mohammad (SAW) as according to them mirza sahib is another prophet after mohammad (SAW)...
But thats a matter of their faith..they have absolute right of being equal in our society and descrimination needs to be stomped out...

As for descrimination is concerned please do bear with us, please do understand that 90% casualities of current war on terror are sunni muslim civilians of pakistan..
Some mullahs create these issues to polish their own politics... it does not represent feelings of general populous of pakistan...

 

[aks18]

Then you are clearly unaware of numerous incidents where students were expelled from universities and schools after it was found out that they were Ahmadis. As for how many will ask, let me ask you if you studied in a government school, because I did in Pakistan and no matter how much you try to avoid it, everyone wants to know what your religion, sect etc is. Now I am not saying that it is all bad, on the contrary the vast number of Pakistanis are decent enough to not let religious differences interfere in their friendships etc, but a large number of students, teachers and schools do have a problem. I have seen it personally, so my experiences are ingrained from my personal circumstances. You are free to disagree or not believe me entirely.

one of expelling of qadiani girl student happened in comsats lahore in front of us in that scene girl disrespected our our prophet's name written on poster pasted on university cafeteria ( it was Khatam e Nabuwat conference poster ) wall written name of Prophet Muhammad (SAWW) most of higher management is also qadiani in comsats lahore they tried to save her but couldnt due to the pressure and protest by the students of university they had to expel her on flaming the sentiments of muslims .. kindly do mention complete story instead of showing a one side of the story

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Your right there. The driver for this hate is the law and only GOP can only address that. The problem we have in Pakistan is real "democracy" or "too much democracy". That may sound strange because most people will consider Western countries as models of democracy. Not quite. The answer is more nuanced then that. Let me explain.

I live in UK. If tomorrow a referandum or vote was held and the the question put to the public was. Throw all Pakistan/Muslim orgin people out of UK the ayes would win and nays would lose. There is a very strong undercurrent in UK that is sick of Muslims and in particular Pakistani people. They want them kicked out of UK.

In the same way if a vote was held tomorow to ban homosexuality the ayes would win and nays would lose. Again underneath the public face most Britons at heart are not happy with Gays being given right to get married etc.

So if real democracy was practiced in UK all Muslims and Gays would be in trouble. However in UK real democracy is not about counting number of heads on any issue. There is a active political class in UK composed of intellectuels, the middle class that effectively dominates all political parties. This ruling class that dominates UK politics believes in cetain principles that might be termed "politically correct" or PC.

It is they who make sure that the ugly thoughts that ripple among the mass of UK people are assuaged and controlled. This is done by media, the law and social pressure. The result is most of the population despite not being happy accept the views of the political class.

This is done like I said by using media, social pressure, law and economics. The ruling class makes sure the average Briton has food, car, house, holiday, drink and get to watch football. In other words the average person is get happy.

However there are always few on the fringe who don't let money, drink, holidays mask their feelings. These people end up forming fringe parties like BNP or EDL. In very rare cases some go on to use voilence to advocate their views.

An extreme fringe of this mentality is representated by people like Davide Copeland who wanted to kill Pakistani, Indians, Muslims, Blacks and homosexuel people.

David Copeland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

David Copeland was extremists but trust me millions of millions of English people hold similar but latent views. If a Nazi leader took over UK they would all marching and saluting him. However this brings me back to my original point. THe ruling class have certain outlook. Call it Western liberalism. They may have certain differanes that is why they have differant political parties however Western liberalism has certain sharied beliefs. On that they are all united.

Since this group dominates the media, political parties and business they effectively suppress all the latent racist or anti gay feelings. If any political or public figure makes any comments that go against the views of this group watch how the entire politicasl class will gang up and will use media and even economic pressure to destroy that person.

Some years back English football manager made a comment that "disabled people were born that way because of wrongs they had done in their past life". There was such a outcry from media and even PM got involved. He lost his jo and was forced to apologize to the dsabled people. This is what you get when you have a ruling class that dominates everything and shoves it's beliefs down the throat of most English people.

So democracy does not mean they get what they want. No, Sir. Instead it is like going to McDonalads. You can have any food you want as long as it is from the menu. Big Mac, Fish o'Fillet or Veg Burgher. You can't order "Karahi Ghosht".

In Pakistan we have "gutter politics". If this was practiced in England the fastest way of winning votes would be to say "kick Muslims out" and watch how many votes you would get although in UK the entire political class would turn against you. In Pakistan you can get plenty of votes by playing with people's base instincts like rallying them against Ahmedi or Christians. The result is what you see in Pakistan.

I would argue we have too much democracy in Pakistan.

Ps. Another central belief with the Western liberals is they have become strongly pro Jews. The fastest way you want to kill your political career is make some derogatory comment about Jews and you will be finished. Go ask ex Labour MP George Golloway that.

Atanz brother! We might have ideological differences but this is the BEST and most comprehensive reply I have received on PDF to date. Brother @salarsikander who replied to a question and he impressed me greatly.

This is the kind of reply I expect from a REAL 'think-tank', not some wannabe ones. I have come across those FAKE 'think tanks' who expose their ignorance when speaking about matters they have no knowledge of and resort to misinformation and misquoting in an attempt to hide their ignorance.

Bravo to you! It was a pleasure reading this. Eid Mubarak in advance, this is my last day on PDF as my ramadhan break is over.

 

[Gunsnroses]

I think the mention of religion is not that important but the issue I was highlighting in a previous post is that a large number of Pakistani Ahmadis' achievements are undermined because of the issue of faith. So although I agree she should be called a Pakistani girl but the problem that has to be addressed is that the society itself took the lead in differentiating between Pakistani Ahmadis and Pakistani non Ahmadis by signaling out one community to pursue sectarian policies at a state level. So it is a natural reaction exhibited by some Pakistani Ahmadis when they identify strongly with their religion. Bashing Ahmadis for choosing to be identified as Ahmadis is not fair, since it was the state that took the lead in this matter.

Certainly, I agree. I never had any problems with any of my Ahmadi fellows, even I never bothered who is who. This is the age of technology; professionalism is the religion; productiveness is your ibadat. You know well that here all they see in you is achievements, progress, enthusiasm and above all how fruitful you are for this country. Prisoners of Badr were seen in the similar way. But we Pakistanis are in deep shit, fighting over petty issues, categorized each other in to clans, casts, religions, sub-religion, bullshit and nonsense. Sons of soil or aliens from Mars, I ask what have you done for your beloved Pakistan? What are your accomplishments for this country? What makes you boast that you proudly claim the ownership of this land? Nil...zero! Only hollow claims, worthless patriotism and duty bound brags.

In my deleted post, I tagged you that this little daughter of the land has made an incredible, unbeatable achievement that we are all proud of, Pakistan is proud of. She is a true 'Pakistani' than many of us. Now look at the OP's original title and fill in the blanks. I left it for you to see if we are on a similar frequency or not. But what you said is entirely different topic which shouldn't be mixed together with her achievement. Anyway, we are programmed to do so then why make a fuss.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

OP did not mentioned her band score of IELTS

 

[Tipu7]

Poland aaja saray Jawab aanay lugain gay mairay cheetay waisay bhi main naye exploration kay liyay partner dhoond raha hoon aw3some

WHAT? Threesome?

I am happy as a normal ...............

 

[Pakistani E]

@Akheilos @Irfan Baloch @Spring Onion @syedali73




“I personally opposed the expulsion on the basis of faith,” Muslim Public School Principal Yasir Abbas responds when contacted by The Express Tribune.
“This is not my decision … the entire village unanimously pressed me to expel all Ahmadis from the school, or else they would forcibly shut the school down,” he added.

Ahmadis expelled from school - The Express Tribune

An Ahmadi family in Khushab says it is being victimised by local clerics who instigated the expulsion of a 16-year-old from his school and are now pressing the police to register blasphemy cases against him and his father.

Blasphemy allegations: Ahmadi family under threat from clerics - The Express Tribune

Ahmadi Student expelled on false accusation of blasphemy by COMSATS in Lahore

Pakistan: Ahmadi student expelled on false blasphemy accusation | Al Ufaq

The Ahmadi students were “accused” of preaching their religious beliefs. The principal was pressured into expelling the entire Ahmadi student body by a mob of protesters belonging to Islami Jamiat e Talaba. The mob circled the Principal’s office and demanded the expulsions. The same day, a mob of about 300 college students also barged into Ahmadi students’ rooms, beat them and threw their luggage out of their rooms.

Irtiqa: Students expelled in Pakistan because of their religion

Would this do? Or would I need to find ummat news to satisfy the validity. Also I have accused no one here of being involved in this so I do not know where this misunderstanding has arisen from. @Akheilos

I also have personal experience of this but I doubt anyone here is likely to believe me, so officially reported links only.

@Spring Onion And you are right, I have also never heard of such things from KPK.

I must say our armed forces have been a buffer against such hatred in our society. I personally know a n old ahmedi friend and airforce officer. he prefers not to discuss the matter and I respect that.

I didnt mean to offend people here by bringing up the issues the Ahmedi community faces. being an open forum I was expecting that my honest comments will be allowed and respected but I feel bullied and harassed here and posts after posts confirm what I feared that personal achievements and service to society mean not much if someone is of a wrong faith. recall that Ahmedi doctor that came back from America to Lahore and his life was wasted by a bullet to the heart.... may his soul rest in peace.

the problem with us Pakistanis can be summed up like this

• We deny that there is anything wrong with us
• When we reluctantly acknowledge it, we play down its importance
• when it hits us on our face we blame it on the world

I agree with everything you have said and the only addition I would make is that Pak Army is definitly the only institution which has on the whole largely stayed neutral in sectarian matters, which is why for me, Pak Army is the last hope to squashing religious intolerance. It is the only truly binding force in Pakistan.

The problem is that members of the Qadiani cult gets admitted to these institutions masquerading as Muslims.The non-Muslims have 5% seat quota in certain professional universities and colleges. When they are found out they are expelled because they lied on their admission forms. It is the Qadiani cult that is trying to pretend to be Muslims while at the same time follow heretic Ghulam Kazab as the later-day prophet. The Qadiani mafia manipulates the truth and they cannot have both ways. The expulsion of Qadianis that have lied on their admission forms is legal under the constitution of Pakistan.

What? No Ahmadi truly gives a Sh*t whether people like you consider us muslim or not, we only want and expect to be treated just the same way as Pakistanis and other Muslims demand freedom of religion in other countries especially the west.

 

[Dubious]

“I personally opposed the expulsion on the basis of faith,” Muslim Public School Principal Yasir Abbas responds when contacted by The Express Tribune.
“This is not my decision … the entire village unanimously pressed me to expel all Ahmadis from the school, or else they would forcibly shut the school down,” he added.

Ahmadis expelled from school - The Express Tribune

2011

I think we are in 2015 now

An Ahmadi family in Khushab says it is being victimised by local clerics who instigated the expulsion of a 16-year-old from his school and are now pressing the police to register blasphemy cases against him and his father.

Blasphemy allegations: Ahmadi family under threat from clerics - The Express Tribune

Also 2011

Ahmadi Student expelled on false accusation of blasphemy by COMSATS in Lahore

Pakistan: Ahmadi student expelled on false blasphemy accusation | Al Ufaq

2011

The Ahmadi students were “accused” of preaching their religious beliefs. The principal was pressured into expelling the entire Ahmadi student body by a mob of protesters belonging to Islami Jamiat e Talaba. The mob circled the Principal’s office and demanded the expulsions. The same day, a mob of about 300 college students also barged into Ahmadi students’ rooms, beat them and threw their luggage out of their rooms.

Irtiqa: Students expelled in Pakistan because of their religion

2008


Mind you if you get stuck in past you wont get far....This year we saw clerics were arrested ...so change is coming slowly please keep up coz if 1 side remains in past change will be impossible!

Also I have accused no one here of being involved in this so I do not know where this misunderstanding has arisen from. @Akheilos

Not you I replied to ahsan directly

I also have personal experience of this but I doubt anyone here is likely to believe me, so officially reported links only.

Thank you....It is disgusting ...I havent read the articles just the title coz I am in a rush right now baji came up to call us for dinner

 

[Pakistani E]

Certainly, I agree. I never had any problems with any of my Ahmadi fellows, even I never bothered who is who. This is the age of technology; professionalism is the religion; productiveness is your ibadat. You know well that here all they see in you is achievements, progress, enthusiasm and above all how fruitful you are for this country. Prisoners of Badr were seen in the similar way. But we Pakistanis are in deep shit, fighting over petty issues, categorized each other in to clans, casts, religions, sub-religion, bullshit and nonsense. Sons of soil or aliens from Mars, I ask what have you done for your beloved Pakistan? What are your accomplishments for this country? What makes you boast that you proudly claim the ownership of this land? Nil...zero! Only hollow claims, worthless patriotism and duty bound brags.

In my deleted post, I tagged you that this little daughter of the land has made an incredible, unbeatable achievement that we are all proud of, Pakistan is proud of. She is a true 'Pakistani' than many of us. Now look at the OP's original title and fill in the blanks. I left it for you to see if we are on a similar frequency or not. But what you said is entirely different topic which shouldn't be mixed together with her achievement. Anyway, we are programmed to do so then why make a fuss.

I understand what you are saying, if you re-re my post you will see that in the first line I clearly stated that her religion shouldn't be mentioned in these threads.

 

[aks18]

@Akheilos @Irfan Baloch @Spring Onion @syedali73




“I personally opposed the expulsion on the basis of faith,” Muslim Public School Principal Yasir Abbas responds when contacted by The Express Tribune.
“This is not my decision … the entire village unanimously pressed me to expel all Ahmadis from the school, or else they would forcibly shut the school down,” he added.

Ahmadis expelled from school - The Express Tribune

An Ahmadi family in Khushab says it is being victimised by local clerics who instigated the expulsion of a 16-year-old from his school and are now pressing the police to register blasphemy cases against him and his father.

Blasphemy allegations: Ahmadi family under threat from clerics - The Express Tribune

Ahmadi Student expelled on false accusation of blasphemy by COMSATS in Lahore

Pakistan: Ahmadi student expelled on false blasphemy accusation | Al Ufaq

The Ahmadi students were “accused” of preaching their religious beliefs. The principal was pressured into expelling the entire Ahmadi student body by a mob of protesters belonging to Islami Jamiat e Talaba. The mob circled the Principal’s office and demanded the expulsions. The same day, a mob of about 300 college students also barged into Ahmadi students’ rooms, beat them and threw their luggage out of their rooms.

Irtiqa: Students expelled in Pakistan because of their religion

Would this do? Or would I need to find ummat news to satisfy the validity. Also I have accused no one here of being involved in this so I do not know where this misunderstanding has arisen from. @Akheilos

I also have personal experience of this but I doubt anyone here is likely to believe me, so officially reported links only.

@Spring Onion And you are right, I have also never heard of such things from KPK.



I agree with everything you have said and the only addition I would make is that Pak Army is definitly the only institution which has on the whole largely stayed neutral in sectarian matters, which is why for me, Pak Army is the last hope to squashing religious intolerance. It is the only truly binding force in Pakistan.



What? No Ahmadi truly gives a Sh*t whether people like you consider us muslim or not, we only want and expect to be treated just the same way as Pakistanis and other Muslims demand freedom of religion in other countries especially the west.

there is no such islami student union in comsats not even any political unions this is entire bull shit you can confirm it from any other comsats student .. why u not mentioning the name of the university lol should i copy your ahmadi news network link here now for a fabricated news over this issue ??

 

[Pakistani E]

there is no such student union in comsats this is entire bull shit you can confirm it from any other comsats student .. why u not mentioning the name of the university lol should i copy your ahmadi news network link here now for a fabricated news over this issue ??

The link at the bottom corresponds with the text on the top of it, do keep your reading glasses handy.

2011

I think we are in 2015 now


Also 2011


2011



2008


Mind you if you get stuck in past you wont get far....This year we saw clerics were arrested ...so change is coming slowly please keep up coz if 1 side remains in past change will be impossible!


Not you I replied to ahsan directly


Thank you....It is disgusting ...I havent read the articles just the title coz I am in a rush right now baji came up to call us for dinner

Four years is too few for us to forget, even the architect of 1953 anti Ahmadiyya riots and murderer of dozens of Ahmadis walked free in the end. I am only aware of one or two cases where an Anti ahmadi militant has ever been punished.

Even in 2011 Ahmadiyya mosque attacks the terrorist that we ourselves caught and handed over to police has disappeared. Time only heals wounds when you have hope of justice, our records don't show any.

 

[aks18]

The link at the bottom corresponds with the text on the top of it, do keep your reading glasses handy.

i very well know the scene i was studying there at that time my friend i know the level of journalism in pakistan how they manipulates the facts ... you know one of qadiani teachers in comsats how they treat the rest of muslim students ?? HOD is qadiani there even director level is having qadiani there are many scenes of qadiani teachers disrespecting students over having beard on face they use to say cut this beard i will give you marks in viva then you expect love from muslims over disrespecting our Prophet (SAWW)

The link at the bottom corresponds with the text on the top of it, do keep your reading glasses handy.



Four years is too few for us to forget, even the architect of 1953 anti Ahmadiyya riots and murderer of dozens of Ahmadis walked free in the end. I am only aware of one or two cases where an Anti ahmadi militant has ever been punished.

Even in 2011 Ahmadiyya mosque attacks the terrorist that we ourselves caught and handed over to police has disappeared. Time only heals wounds when you have hope of justice, our records don't show any.

so who killed the sunnis in terrorism incidents which happened in pakistan in past ?? should i start blaming over others sects or over qadianis when i know its all bull shit being funded by our enemies to damage pakistan

 

[Pakistani E]

i very well know the scene i was studying there at that time my friend i know the level of journalism in pakistan how they manipulates the facts ... you know one of qadiani teachers in comsats how they treat the rest of muslim students ?? HOD is qadiani there even director level is having qadiani there are many scenes of qadiani teachers disrespecting students over having beard on face they use to say cut this beard i will give you marks in viva then you expect love from muslims over disrespecting our Prophet (SAWW)

Ahmadis hate beards now too? How come I have never faced hatred from any qadiani over my beard.

Also which manipulation? Prove this manipulation, it is easy to label something you do not agree with as mere "manipulation of facts".

so who killed the sunnis in terrorism incidents which happened in pakistan in past ?? should i start blaming over others sects or over qadianis when i know its all bull shit funding by our enemies is going on

No Ahmadi has ever been involved in any sectarian killings ,You can say whatever you like.