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Genetic Journey of a Pakistani

dnt knw about all pakistanis

bt pushtoons are frm the ten lost tribes of israel..
Apparently you didn't try research this claim, and accepted it once you read it, disregarding any political motivations behind it. Apparently also, you're a kid, so you could be pardoned for being ignorant to the scientific process!

Pashtoons, like the majority of other Pakistanis, are a Causasoid group, and Semetic admixture should be a minority trait. Some people may have Jewish anscestors, but we can't generalize before any hypothesis is anthropologically established. The fact that Pushtuns speak an Indo-Iranian language points to the fact that any immigrant group (say Jewish) would have got ASSIMILATED into what was an already established population.

A quick search returned this as the first link.
 
Lot of blunders in the article

Its one thing to suggest a point but to say that there was no India before 18th century(ofcourse not unified as everybody knows) is going too far. Don't know if the author was trying to satisfy his ego or someone's :undecided:.

First of all there are records by Chinese historians, greece historians and lot of other older civilizations about Bharat (then known as land of spices popularly) because it was from here that others got spices, daimonds and other precious stones. There are loads of books on this. People of Israel have come here due to persecutions in Europe and have lived here for ages (the ten tribes thing)

The greeks came here for spices and the chinese too in return of which they sent their silk. The silk route is famous for this. Hell Christopher columbus wanted to discover India (i mean he wanted discover a safe route here) and ended up with finding America.


In our Ancient texts particularly Mahabharata and others the Greeks (as Yavan) and Chinese (as Cina) are particularly mentioned as the foreigners known to Bharata khanda. India is corruption of Bharata varsha by greeks which went into english becoming India. Lot of books by ancient people have been written on this land. If we go on there are thousands of such things.

Also the author stated something like Sanskrit being a seperate langauge out of India. Funniest thing i ever heard. The only king who ruled over the undivided India in prehistoric times according to Ramayana was Bharata after whom this land was named because according to the texts he conquered this vast empire by the age of 20 or so. And the maps show right from kanyakumari to Balochistan (as known now). Hence the name "Akhand Bharat".

It does not make a difference to me or the people of this country what people would like to believe , since the truth is always the truth. Speaking of baked lies as history is really pathetic, however everybody to their own satisfaction, whatever makes one happy :lazy:
 
And about religion thing , India too had its divisions in the form Saivas (the one who pray to Lord Shiva) and Vaishnavas (the one who pray to Lord Vishnu). There are wars mentioned in acient texts between these two groups. However over years people understood that religion should not be restrictive. Due to which every single person has his own set of beliefs (by which i mean he adheres to the same basic tenets but is not required to be too rigid in their implementation).

The most ancient text Rig veda is dated back to 1700-1100 BCE according to modern day scholars, however here in India the dating goes back even further which ofcourse cannot be accepted by others unknown to our beliefs (which is not a matter to discuss here).

Hindu is also a word relatively younger since the ancient texts call the broad spectrum of religious based beliefs under the word "sanatana dharma" (which means ancient law) which according to our texts was laid down by Manu (the giver of law). Hinduism is not a homogenous langauge, its actually heterogenous covering various beliefs under a single term which incidentally was made popular by the Arabs as Al-hind who wanted to classify this land as the residing place of Hindu's.

To prove my point if we go further back when Alexander attacked this land the first resistance he faced was from King Porus (corrupted version of Purushottama) in Punjab.
 
Very interesting article and read. DNA, genetics are an important field in science and have opened up many new avenues as well as helped us better understand human beings. I sincerely hope that Pakistan itself, invests into this important field as we have much to learn as well as gain from it.

I am also interested in getting myself and my families Genetic tests done and I think it will prove fascinating to learn about ones genetic make-up and origins.

The human genome project and the genetic markers of peoples have also helped confirm as well as dispel many previously held believes.

With these studies, the commonality of genes found along the Indus river (Pakistan region) have been able to stand up. Also, the genetic similarities, additions and frequencies of various markers have allowed us to better put together which peoples have left their impressions on various peoples, which especially in the case of Pakistan with its history of successive migrations and invasions will prove to be very fascinating.

In saying all this, it is important to look on all of this from an intellectual and scientific point of view, and its always good to know your history and origins. Something that is healthy for you. Pakistani's and infact the whole world has much to gain from learning about their genetic origins. One must also be careful to not use such information to exploit others either. I too have never been a fan of those that generalize and group all people into one. We must learn to appreciate and respect our differences(those of our own and those of others), and to do so, makes for a wonderful world. The flip side, to wrongfully label certain people as being the ''same'' are no different is also incorrect and quite discriminatory as well. The Middle East, Asia, Central Asia and South Asia is a very diverse region, even within specific regions such as South Asia there are distinct groups that dont overlap. The common tendancy to group people as being all the same if incorrect and denies people of their inherent history and identity. Pakistani's in particular, have been very adamant about their unique identity. Other people in a similar predicament as Pakistan include the Egyptians and even the Lebanese, who while Arabized, due share some unique and distinct origins as well. People erroneously use politics, communal tactics, religion and even social status to bias their decision in such topics. Fortunately, science and factual information can often squash such irrelevant biasis.

I had a colleague of mine in school, who claimed to be Syed and had his genetic testing done, the results further reinforced his families oral traditions which had been passed down, with the genetic testing, had now been verified to some extent. I found this application of the test truly fascinating.

Pakistan has many interesting ethnic groups with perhaps the Panjabi's and the Sindhi's being some of the more heterogenous ones due to their history, their results in particular should prove interesting. also those of the Pashtuns, and from the northern areas will prove fascinating as well. Futhermore, the Mohajir community of Karachi, some segments of whom claim to be of mixed decent, genetic testing would help in this endeavour. The possibilities are endless.

Anyhow, a truly interesting and refreshing thread, it would be nice if more Pakistani's could post their Genetic results here or in some other forum.
 
Lol at the author. He claims India is not homogenoeus but somehow decides that Pakistanis have always been a nation. True Hinduism was just a set of cults united by religious hatred.

Hinduism is a religon founded by the British.

But that does not mean Indian cannot have a civilization or its ancient heritage. Huns made the most ruthless invaders at one time even though they were not known for other things. Civilizations thrived not because of their religion. Clear smell of 'India=Hindu' delusion.

You have no recorded history. Hinduism or whatever history you want to put forth are works of fiction.

One more 'I am the center of the world' article.

Nope a one more don't fall for India's false history and propaganda. All these Indians claim this and that yet its odd that no ancient text or history books purport this. Only articles/texts that states this are by Indians or by India. Naturally its all false.
 
......India is corruption of Bharata varsha by greeks which went into english becoming India. ..........

Wrong. The Indus river was known as "Sindu" (Darya-e-Sindh) in ancient times. The ancient Persians called Sindu as 'Hindu' substituting "S' for 'H'. The word "Hindu" is not a Sanskrit word. The ancient Greeks took the Persian word 'Hindu' and called it 'Indu' and later 'India'.
 

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