General Faiz Hameed is "Khudday Line" - Zardari

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Faiz is highly controversial figure. People in the army don't speak highly of him and no one interacts with him much.

He was so professional that he was using ISI to provide clandestine support to one political party. MF got served right.

Soooooo sidelined.. he was made corps commander Peshawar to fulfill criteria for coas seat by who? Bajwa and his team..bhuhahahhah

 

[PakAlp]

why begging to get softness? Who order Ex CM KPK and Fawad to start contacting Establishment again?


PTI has started. Fawad confirmed Arif Hammed Bhatti that Party cannot afford to open front with everyone and that is the advice of entire PTI.

Good move by PTI. They'll need some kinds of agreement with the establishment in order to stay in politics. In order for Pakistan to rise the military and civilian governments need to come on the same page. They will have to give and take.

Do people really believe in the Usa/UK the establishment does not have agreements with the political parties? Their whole establishment is in charge and they bring out leaders who will give and take. All their foreign policy, wars are promoted by the establishment.

 

[Norwegian]

Good move by PTI. They'll need some kinds of agreement with the establishment in order to stay in politics. In order for Pakistan to rise the military and civilian governments need to come on the same page. They will have to give and take.

Do people really believe in the Usa/UK the establishment does not have agreements with the political parties? Their whole establishment is in charge and they bring out leaders who will give and take. All their foreign policy, wars are promoted by the establishment.

Nope. Establishment is the menace. It had no problem installing this imported govt of crooks one year before general elections. PTI should end all contact with establishment

 

[Flight of falcon]

Where they said that? Election will be held after November. Fawad yesterday agreed that halka bandi is the most important thing and they cannot go with 2017 halka bani as it has to many issue.

I think you are dillusional and repeating Patwar khanaa statements.

Let this be clear. Neither army nor PDM is in the driving seat right now. Ik is in the position to dictate and decide.
Election commission is irrelevant and unacceptable. They cannot ban or do shit to PTI.

Fawad is making it clear that we dont need confrontation with the army and they better fix their mistakes.

Just a reminder that SriLanka was ruled by two brothers as well.....One minister was killed and many minister houses are burned down yesterday.
With two million supporters going out of control similar things can happen at Jati Ummra and in Islamabad...... and I sure hope they do.

 

[Desprado]

Nope. Establishment is the menace. It had no problem installing this imported govt of crooks one year before general elections. PTI should end all contact with establishment

Tell fawad, Imran Khan, SMQ, and Khatak to stop contact. They all agreed to get softness from Establishment but fawad did not say what PTI will give in return?

Maybe do long march but accept the government? Facing for both.

I think you are dillusional and repeating Patwar khanaa statements.

Let this be clear. Neither army nor PDM is in the driving seat right now. Ik is in the position to dictate and decide.
Election commission is irrelevant and unacceptable. They cannot ban or do shit to PTI.

Fawad is making it clear that we dont need confrontation with the army and they better fix their mistakes.

Just a reminder that SriLanka was ruled by two brothers as well.....One minister was killed and many minister houses are burned down yesterday.
With two million supporters going out of control similar things can happen at Jati Ummra and in Islamabad...... and I sure hope they do.

Sri Lanka has presidential system and they are not ruled by Establishment.

Pakistan style is more Towards Thailand.

 

[Norwegian]

Tell fawad, Imran Khan, SMQ, and Khatak to stop contact. They all agreed to get softness from Establishment but fawad did not say what PTI will give in return?

It's just a lollypop. Imran Khan has blocked phone contacts of everyone in establishment long time ago

 

[Flight of falcon]

Tell fawad, Imran Khan, SMQ, and Khatak to stop contact. They all agreed to get softness from Establishment but fawad did not say what PTI will in return?

Maybe do long march but accept the government? Facing for both.

You need not to worry....we are not requesting . We are demanding!!!

As an institution we are demanding that Bajwa resign gracefully and that next elections be held ASAP under he neutral caretaker government.

Did you miss this early statement bu this dungar chour?

ممکن ہے نئے آرمی چیف کی تعیناتی سے قبل ہی انتخابات کروا دیئے جائیں، خواجہ آصف

خواجہ آصف نے کہا کہ اگر لیفٹیننٹ جنرل فیض حمید کا نام سینیارٹی لسٹ میں ہوا تو بالکل غور کیا جائے گا۔

jang.com.pk

 

[PakAlp]

Nope. Establishment is the menace. It had no problem installing this imported govt of crooks one year before general elections. PTI should end all contact with establishment

Lol but PTI will eventually come back to the military for support. How did you think IK was untouchable during the darna time? It was the same establishment which supported him, IK even mentions this a few times that the people with boots will come. Javid Hashmi left PTI due to this, he was an experienced politician and he knew they will backstab but IK did not listen and exactly the same happened to him.

Believe it or not, PTI and IK will come to an agreement with the establishment regarding the foreign policy, relations, security etc and PTI will come to power eventually. Before it was PMLN v PPP but now its PDM v PTI, establishment will use both of them to scare each other but behind the scenes will pull their strings.

 

[Norwegian]

Lol but PTI will eventually come back to the military for support. How did you think IK was untouchable during the darna time? It was the same establishment which supported him, IK even mentions this a few times that the people with boots will come. Javid Hashmi left PTI due to this, he was an experienced politician and he knew they will backstab but IK did not listen and exactly the same happened to him.

Believe it or not, PTI and IK will come to an agreement with the establishment regarding the foreign policy, relations, security etc and PTI will come to power eventually. Before it was PMLN v PPP but now its PDM v PTI, establishment will use both of them to scare each other but behind the scenes will pull their strings.

Not going to happen this time as Imran Khan is furious at the establishment betrayal

 

[Flight of falcon]

Lol but PTI will eventually come back to the military for support. How did you think IK was untouchable during the darna time? It was the same establishment which supported him, IK even mentions this a few times that the people with boots will come. Javid Hashmi left PTI due to this, he was an experienced politician and he knew they will backstab but IK did not listen and exactly the same happened to him.

Believe it or not, PTI and IK will come to an agreement with the establishment regarding the foreign policy, relations, security etc and PTI will come to power eventually. Before it was PMLN v PPP but now its PDM v PTI, establishment will use both of them to scare each other but behind the scenes will pull their strings.

I agree with you and afraid things will happen like this but I absolutely hate this system. Army needs to stop getting involved and should only be responsible for security during the elections and that's all...

 

[Desprado]

Lol but PTI will eventually come back to the military for support. How did you think IK was untouchable during the darna time? It was the same establishment which supported him, IK even mentions this a few times that the people with boots will come. Javid Hashmi left PTI due to this, he was an experienced politician and he knew they will backstab but IK did not listen and exactly the same happened to him.

Believe it or not, PTI and IK will come to an agreement with the establishment regarding the foreign policy, relations, security etc and PTI will come to power eventually. Before it was PMLN v PPP but now its PDM v PTI, establishment will use both of them to scare each other but behind the scenes will pull their strings.

Fawad said yesterday that Establishment is providing security to Imran khan and we only trust Establishment in that matter we will never take personal security.

Not going to happen this time as Imran Khan is furious at the establishment betrayal

Than why they would have contacted. Why he asked fawad, SMQ and khatak to contact Establishment? Fawad said that we all including Imran Khan agree that we cannot go at this route with Establishment and they are much more powerful than our imagination. You need see that interview to your thought clear.

Lol but PTI will eventually come back to the military for support. How did you think IK was untouchable during the darna time? It was the same establishment which supported him, IK even mentions this a few times that the people with boots will come. Javid Hashmi left PTI due to this, he was an experienced politician and he knew they will backstab but IK did not listen and exactly the same happened to him.

Believe it or not, PTI and IK will come to an agreement with the establishment regarding the foreign policy, relations, security etc and PTI will come to power eventually. Before it was PMLN v PPP but now its PDM v PTI, establishment will use both of them to scare each other but behind the scenes will pull their strings.

Yes that will be in return that is why USA Afghanistan Khalil Zaad is meeting with Imran Khan tomorrow in Attock.

 

[PakAlp]

Tell fawad, Imran Khan, SMQ, and Khatak to stop contact. They all agreed to get softness from Establishment but fawad did not say what PTI will give in return?

Maybe do long march but accept the government? Facing for both.

IK is awaami leader, he may have blocked establishment phone calls but politicians like SMQ, Khattak are definitely in touch. IK will hold a long march and they will come to an conclusion regarding elections date. At the moment PTI is holding gatherings in all cities to send a message to the establishment, they are waiting for an settlement. Otherwise what stopped them to hold long march the day after IK was removed. People should have been on the roads, bringing a revolution.

 

[Flight of falcon]

Khalil is simply a messenger . Western powers always see which way the winds are blowing and join that way. He is perhaps coming with a reconciliation offer after Americans realized their plans went disastrously wrong and they are made to look like complete fools....

 

[P@kistan]

@Desprado @Waterboy Check Fawad constituency jalsa

It was so empty so they had to delay till night to hide under dark.

Lighting hi akhir sab kuch hai

https://twitter.com/x/status/1524180785884024835

 

[PakAlp]

I agree with you and afraid things will happen like this but I absolutely hate this system. Army needs to stop getting involved and should only be responsible for security during the elections and that's all...

We need to act mature, politics is not a game, same with foreign policy and relations. How would a politician know which country is our enemy and is trying to harm us? How will a politician know how to deal with military issues, security issues. The experts are the military. This important issue cannot be taken lightly. This is why all the powerful nations like USA, UK, France etc have their politicians and army people on the same page, when it comes to foreign relations, wars etc, it is the military people who decide. If tomorrow Boris Johnson declares war on China, he will not be allowed but he is mature enough to know this.

Like I mentioned, we can disagree but reality is PTI will come to agreement with the establishment, IK will be careful when it comes to relationship with Saudia, UAE, Israel, Russia, UK, USA. If I was IK I would accept it but tell the Generals to take the responsibility and tell the people aswell that I am not allowed to make independent policy regarding these powerful nations, the same way he cannot make reforms in the judiciary.