General Bajwa proves himself a man of action

[tarrar]

Gen. Bajwa will prove his worth when he openly operates against gadari party, who are traitors. Uzair has openly confessed & has given tons of evidence against treacherous ppp, so why the ops against them not started?

Secondly KJ should be hanged asap, there should be no more further delay on his death sentence.

 

[F86 Saber]

@Oscar
Probably you are right .. but how can we make things better ... educated class is a very small percentage ... voting system is of no use as half of the country is a tribal society ... a significant portion of rest half are slaves of the shaudhries wadera ... do you know any real plan to set things right ?

If there is a solution, it is not the responsibility of the army. The only thing army can do is to impose martial law and we all know how that story ends. It gives an excuse to the likes of Sharif's and Bhutto's to say that "Democracy" was not allowed to flourish while pleading "Political Martyrdom". Believe it or not, not all of our voters are influenced into voting, all educated do not vote sensibly and all uneducated do not vote insensibly. I have met a lot of highly educated people who think that Nawaz Sharif is the savior of Pakistan and would vote for him no matter what. You can see examples of such people here at PDF. In order to rid ourselves of these dirty politicians, there needs to be a change in the ideology of the common man which may take generations to happen.

What i've been telling people since Gen. Raheel left, what the army is doing was not because of Gen. Raheel. Core ideology of the top brass is the same which is to rid Pakistan of all menace and push it on the path of economic growth and no matter who sits at the helm this mission will continue. Army will make sure that treats from eastern and western borders are neutralized, they will make sure that our defense is so strong that our enemies will not dare to lay a hand on us. They will make sure that all terrorists and their sleeper cells are wiped out, they will make sure that CPEC is completed. Release of Ayyan and Dr. Asim are small losses which can be ignored in the context of the bigger picture and obviously these are petty issues as compared to the main focal points of terrorism eradication and securing CPEC. If it all goes to plan, we will see economic stability which will result in more people getting educated which may in turn trigger a change in ideology.

 

[Adiyogi]

India’s in-service naval officer

and how did you come up with this conclusion, your patriotic instincts?

 

[The Accountant]

If there is a solution, it is not the responsibility of the army. The only thing army can do is to impose martial law and we all know how that story ends. It gives an excuse to the likes of Sharif's and Bhutto's to say that "Democracy" was not allowed to flourish while pleading "Political Martyrdom". Believe it or not, not all of our voters are influenced into voting, all educated do not vote sensibly and all uneducated do not vote insensibly. I have met a lot of highly educated people who think that Nawaz Sharif is the savior of Pakistan and would vote for him no matter what. You can see examples of such people here at PDF. In order to rid ourselves of these dirty politicians, there needs to be a change in the ideology of the common man which may take generations to happen.

What i've been telling people since Gen. Raheel left, what the army is doing was not because of Gen. Raheel. Core ideology of the top brass is the same which is to rid Pakistan of all menace and push it on the path of economic growth and no matter who sits at the helm this mission will continue. Army will make sure that treats from eastern and western borders are neutralized, they will make sure that our defense is so strong that our enemies will not dare to lay a hand on us. They will make sure that all terrorists and their sleeper cells are wiped out, they will make sure that CPEC is completed. Release of Ayyan and Dr. Asim are small losses which can be ignored in the context of the bigger picture and obviously these are petty issues as compared to the main focal points of terrorism eradication and securing CPEC. If it all goes to plan, we will see economic stability which will result in more people getting educated which may in turn trigger a change in ideology.

I agree that I might be having wrong expectations from army ..

But I totally disagree with the concept of Dr. Asima nd dollar girl are petty matters ...

I remember the story of a famous decoit who when was going for death penalty slap her mother and told her that if she had not encouraged the first robbery of neighbours hen he might have ended up differently ...

Brother theft is theft, murder is murder and corruption is corruption ... we should not tolerate an inch of crime no matter how high profile the person is ...

Regarding our electoral system ,,, mark my words due to nature of our society whatever we do our election results will remain same without any change ... more weightage is given to rural areas and they are bound by caste system and other non-sense things ... so if we keep on waiting for change by vote than nothing is going to happen ...

 

[Boomin' Bomber I.J.]

Crooks have returned to the country, and criminals released. So, whose policy is he implementing?
I wouldn't count my blessings too soon!

 

[Green Arrow]

Well he is doing the good job so far but don't forget that the hard steps were already taken by Gen RS like the Fata or Karachi operations. He is just following the same foot steps.

 

[F86 Saber]

I agree that I might be having wrong expectations from army ..

But I totally disagree with the concept of Dr. Asima nd dollar girl are petty matters ...

I remember the story of a famous decoit who when was going for death penalty slap her mother and told her that if she had not encouraged the first robbery of neighbours hen he might have ended up differently ...

Brother theft is theft, murder is murder and corruption is corruption ... we should not tolerate an inch of crime no matter how high profile the person is ...

Regarding our electoral system ,,, mark my words due to nature of our society whatever we do our election results will remain same without any change ... more weightage is given to rural areas and they are bound by caste system and other non-sense things ... so if we keep on waiting for change by vote than nothing is going to happen ...

I am not saying these are petty matters in general, just in the context of our current situation these can be put on the back burner. Corruption at this level is an international problem, Silvio Barlusconi is an example of a corrupt prime minister yet he still lives with his 17 year old wife in his huge mansion. Corruption at basic level is again due to lack of education which results in lack of ethics which needs to be corrected with a change of ideology.

 

[CriticalThought]

I will wait to call him a man of action until Jadhav is dead and hanging from a rope in Adiala Jail or somewhere similar and Indian machinations are proven to be of no use:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/3-options-for-india-in-saving-kulbhushan-jadhav.490000/page-2

He will need to act authoritatively so that President Mamnoon Hussein doesn't simply give this terrorist a pardon.

 

[The Accountant]

I am not saying these are petty matters in general, just in the context of our current situation these can be put on the back burner. Corruption at this level is an international problem, Silvio Barlusconi is an example of a corrupt prime minister yet he still lives with his 17 year old wife in his huge mansion. Corruption at basic level is again due to lack of education which results in lack of ethics which needs to be corrected with a change of ideology.

Yes we need

Lo G we have new hero for unknown success, Did you people ask did Raheel Sharif successfully completed his military operation against terrorists?

Dont bring RS as he successfully clear more than 75% of mess created under nose of his military and civilian predecessor ...

 

[Lavrentiy]

Army created the Frankenstein i.e. Al-Qaida and Taliban in collaboration with CIA and now some fan boys are praising the Army for cleaning their own mess.

Even Hillary Clinton has accepted the mistakes of the past but no Pakistani civilian or military leader or office holder has the moral courage to accept the mistakes of the past.

Even now, the establishment is supporting Afghan Taliban while the Afghans are hiding Pakistani Taliban in reciprocation.

 

[araz]

We need answeres ... it cant keep on happening like this ... we want justice ... these elites should stop treating us like subjects ... justice should be served to whatever class they are ...

I have start loosing hope on current army chief ... they are doing just cosmetic changes ...

You want justice. Tell the jahil awam to stop selling their votes, and to stop giving votes on the basis of clan, biradari, regionalism, or any other ism. Or the awam should come out on the streets and start agitating till the army is forced to act and then continue pressure on the army to wipe the deck clean and not let any of the Houbura bastards escape. Till we act no one else will act for us, not the army, not the judiciary, or for that matter any other saviour or Super hero in Shalwar mameez with a 10 ft long Naara, or Laacha with a danda on his shoulder.
Life is a b1tch and remains so for lazy and selfish people. You want something make it happen.
A

 

[The Accountant]

You want justice. Tell the jahil awam to stop selling their votes, and to stop giving votes on the basis of clan, biradari, regionalism, or any other ism. Or the awam should come out on the streets and start agitating till the army is forced to act and then continue pressure on the army to wipe the deck clean and not let any of the Houbura bastards escape. Till we act no one else will act for us, not the army, not the judiciary, or for that matter any other saviour or Super hero in Shalwar mameez with a 10 ft long Naara, or Laacha with a danda on his shoulder.
Life is a b1tch and remains so for lazy and selfish people. You want something make it happen.
A

I cant disagree with you ... but how is the question ...

We are currently occupied in earning our living ... we are systematically occupied so much and are so much powerless that cant do much ... that why have expectations with those who are in power ...

 

[newb3e]

You want justice. Tell the jahil awam to stop selling their votes, and to stop giving votes on the basis of clan, biradari, regionalism, or any other ism. Or the awam should come out on the streets and start agitating till the army is forced to act and then continue pressure on the army to wipe the deck clean and not let any of the Houbura bastards escape. Till we act no one else will act for us, not the army, not the judiciary, or for that matter any other saviour or Super hero in Shalwar mameez with a 10 ft long Naara, or Laacha with a danda on his shoulder.
Life is a b1tch and remains so for lazy and selfish people. You want something make it happen.
A

Lols as if votes in this country matter!!!

Please tell me how many people voted for creation of Mqm? Or home many people.voted for isi to finance miyan nawaz party at start? Or how many voted for Amry to sign nro and allow zardari to comeback and rape our country!!

You boot lickers need to open your eyes and see the facts!!

No matter how many soldiers we put on border agaijst india or afgahnistan their sacrifices will be wasted if your army keeps protecting corrupt elite and keeps protecting these bastards!!

 

[araz]

Lols as if votes in this country matter!!!

Please tell me how many people voted for creation of Mqm? Or home many people.voted for isi to finance miyan nawaz party at start? Or how many voted for Amry to sign nro and allow zardari to comeback and rape our country!!

You boot lickers need to open your eyes and see the facts!!

No matter how many soldiers we put on border agaijst india or afgahnistan their sacrifices will be wasted if your army keeps protecting corrupt elite and keeps protecting these bastards!!

MQMwas a need of the 70s and80s. The Mohajirs felt at that time that there needed to be a political arm to tackle the onslaught from the Sindhis who were persecuting the Mohajirs and taking over their jobs. I have seen the APMSO in its formative years with Farooq Sattar and Imran Farooq begging us for votes. To be fair to them the MQM provided the Mohajirs with a platcorm from where they could be heard at least early on. Later Jabba the hut became peer Saheb and his face started appearing on leaves and then the dream died of obesity corruption and inaptitude. I did not meet Farooq for 30 yrs after that till recently but the fire has gone from MQM.
Iam anything but a boot licker. Having seen the political initiation from the 60s to the formation of PPP to Noon Leagues rise I remain convinced the answer is not in the political system. However it is and remains the lesser of the 2 evils.
Atmy's role in the political arena has always been there. However like all things Pakistani, it has been ill thought out. The army hierarchy has been complicit in dividing the country and not transferring power in accordance with the mandate ofthe 1970 elections. I do not think that a new structure will be erected on the ashes of this maggot infested pheonix. However the fact remains it is the most cohesive element in the Pak polity and will be instrumental in any new direction that the country takes. As things go it is still relatively the mosy honest institution that we have so take it or leave it.
A

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Meanwhile Dr. Asim got his name cleared from ECL ... rangers back in barracks in Karachi ... panama leak case verdict is being delayed seems like they are reducing they hype created ... dollar girl is already out ... we have already forgotten murder of tahir ul qadri's men ... no reforms in election struture and beaurcracy ... NAB chairman, ECP chairman and care taker gov will be set be Noora and zardari ...

Sooner or later ozair balooch will be put to death penalty like saulat majid without nabbing the mind behind them ... i am truly disappointed ...

Apparently its like all the elites are from same class protecting each other whereas politics beaurcracy, GHQ and courts are just different dept. of same elites proteting face of each other ...

Kindly dont bring that its not responsibility of armed forces ... if they hide in the plea behind no responsibility then they deserve no respect higher than my watchman as if they dont do the right thing then they are just watchman which they are being paid for, from my taxes ... kindly dont behave like a watchman ... our armed forces should be more than that ... they should be protector of ideology of Pakistan which is being continously destroyed by our elite ...

Remember incidents like mardan university are just the begining of frustration of people ... if people loose trust on the system then they will take the law in hand and then their will be nothing but anarchy ...

@Farah Sohail @PakSword @Oscar @Arsalan @PaklovesTurkiye @Azadkashmir @MastanKhan @CriticalThought @MarvellousThunder@PDC

Your views please ... as i am disappointed ...

Agree 100%.

As for topic what bajwa has done. F*** all. Infact he and his "team" are reserving all gains made during RS time.

Panama gate verdict should wake people from their slumber.