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MQMwas a need of the 70s and80s. The Mohajirs felt at that time that there needed to be a political arm to tackle the onslaught from the Sindhis who were persecuting the Mohajirs and taking over their jobs. I have seen the APMSO in its formative years with Farooq Sattar and Imran Farooq begging us for votes. To be fair to them the MQM provided the Mohajirs with a platcorm from where they could be heard at least early on. Later Jabba the hut became peer Saheb and his face started appearing on leaves and then the dream died of obesity corruption and inaptitude. I did not meet Farooq for 30 yrs after that till recently but the fire has gone from MQM.
Iam anything but a boot licker. Having seen the political initiation from the 60s to the formation of PPP to Noon Leagues rise I remain convinced the answer is not in the political system. However it is and remains the lesser of the 2 evils.
Atmy's role in the political arena has always been there. However like all things Pakistani, it has been ill thought out. The army hierarchy has been complicit in dividing the country and not transferring power in accordance with the mandate ofthe 1970 elections. I do not think that a new structure will be erected on the ashes of this maggot infested pheonix. However the fact remains it is the most cohesive element in the Pak polity and will be instrumental in any new direction that the country takes. As things go it is still relatively the mosy honest institution that we have so take it or leave it.
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Lols most honest institution in the country i wont call them that but id call them the most manupilative institute in the country!!

They support every corrupt bastard and take share but they stay hidden , behind the scenes and then they kill some ttp terrorist and become heroes and sacred infront of awaam!!

Army is a bigger problem than politicians in this country!! Its easy to eliminate politicians but its impossible if they are backed by chowkidars!
 
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My Fellow members here agrees to me president mamnoon Hussain will not be there
To pardon him or sign his death warrant as it's a long process high court and through
Supreme Court
Alas last time who has pardon the Indian spy was president general musharraf himself
Though we shall keep in mind about the illegal kidnapping of one of our colonel I don't
Remember his name
Somebody should discuss about his fate also at the end of the day it might be....
Give & take I hope not
 
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Lols most honest institution in the country i wont call them that but id call them the most manupilative institute in the country!!

They support every corrupt bastard and take share but they stay hidden , behind the scenes and then they kill some ttp terrorist and become heroes and sacred infront of awaam!!

Army is a bigger problem than politicians in this country!! Its easy to eliminate politicians but its impossible if they are backed by chowkidars!
You have an opinion and I have mine. Corruption is a national disease and the army is part of the nation. The nature of their job makes opinions on them difficult. Why are they at all linked with politics? It is because the awaam make a hash of it and then expect the army to get the house back in order! Why? I am well aware of the corruption in the army as well as other institutions like judiciary. However this is what we have to work with..
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You have an opinion and I have mine. Corruption is a national disease and the army is part of the nation. The nature of their job makes opinions on them difficult. Why are they at all linked with politics? It is because the awaam make a hash of it and then expect the army to get the house back in order! Why? I am well aware of the corruption in the army as well as other institutions like judiciary. However this is what we have to work with..
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They are linked because of all the coups and the time generals stayed as presidents.see my point is if they were sincere they would have fixed institution and worked on building a better system that would have kept politicians and their corruption in check! But none did that all they did was encroach land and made dhas and askaris and sold plots and made billion same way politicians did!!! So army is equally to be blamed for mess we are in right now!
 
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Lols most honest institution in the country i wont call them that but id call them the most manupilative institute in the country!!

They support every corrupt bastard and take share but they stay hidden , behind the scenes and then they kill some ttp terrorist and become heroes and sacred infront of awaam!!

Army is a bigger problem than politicians in this country!! Its easy to eliminate politicians but its impossible if they are backed by chowkidars!

biggest problem is the people are our nation, who insist that our politicians are clean and not corrupt. most notable the educated middle class. This the reason why you see public support for PML N and this why they get most votes in urban centers like Lahore where educated middle class vote for them. same is true for PPPP and MQM in karachi and sindh urban areas(50% population of sindh lives in cities and are well educated).

the only exception I am seeing is urban areas of KPK where every term a different political party is given the chance (last 4 elections PML(before mushi), MMA(mushi era), ANP(after mma), & PTI)
 
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biggest problem is the people are our nation, who insist that our politicians are clean and not corrupt. most notable the educated middle class. This the reason why you see public support for PML N and this why they get most votes in urban centers like Lahore where educated middle class vote for them. same is true for PPPP and MQM in karachi and sindh urban areas(50% population of sindh lives in cities and are well educated).

the only exception I am seeing is urban areas of KPK where every term a different political party is given the chance (last 4 elections PML(before mushi), MMA(mushi era), ANP(after mma), & PTI)
votes dont matter in this country! deals and setting with army does!
 
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votes dont matter in this country! deals and setting with army does!
what do you means what doesnt matter, PML N came in through power of votes, Mushi was army general but was out-posted via the power of votes.? ???
 
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