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Gen.Kayani To Visit Russia This Month

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Gen. Kayani in Russia to strengthen defence ties



ISLAMABAD: Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Kayani reached Moscow on Sunday to hold talks with the Russian president, prime minister and military leadership.

According to the Inter-Services Public Relations, General Kayani’s one-day trip to Russia aimed at improving cooperation in defence and military fields of the two countries.

Earlier, Lahore Corps Commander Lt Gen Ejaz Ahmed Bakhshi and other senior military officials saw the COAS off at the Lahore airport.

According to military sources, Kayani would visit Russian military headquarters and meet the Russian defence minister, foreign minister and army chief. The visit is being given a lot of importance after President Zardari’s recent trip to Russia, where he met his Russian and Afghan counterparts.

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good news for pakistan foregin policy now we are are not depend on america
 
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Interesting times ahead, Pakistan is walking that extra mile to rope in Russia but we will have to see how Russia manages matters of Pakistan where India is involved.
 
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good news for pakistan foregin policy now we are are not depend on america
Why do you guys need to be always dependent on somebody or the other. First it was America, then China, then America again, and now Russia!!

For God's sake, Pakistan has the 2nd largest Salt mine, 5th Largest coal reserves, 7th largest copper mine, 5 rivers, 6th largest army, a nuclear power, and the 8th largest wheat producer!! And you still need to be forever dependent on largesse dished out by others?

Jeeez!
 
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LPC WASHINGTON and OBAMA.

Interesting times ahead, Pakistan is walking that extra mile to rope in Russia but we will have to see how Russia manages matters of Pakistan where India is involved.
Dont bring India in every PAK-RUSSIA thread... there is American factor behind all these developments not Indian.
 
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This is going to be very important visit for Pakistan, Pakistan must try their best to fix their ties with Russia. After successful visit made by Gen. Musharaf nobody was there after him to take the relationship forward because PPP was very busy doing corruption & shaking hands with US.

Pakistan will try to buy Military hardware from Russia, they will try to get Advance Air Defence, Helicopters both transport & attack. I am sure Pak Military will try to negotiate for more Military Hardware purchase. Plus I believe Gen. Kayani will also share Intel on Syria situation & it will affect the region.

Good relation with China & Russia is in Pakistan’s best interest this will damage US goals & objectives which they have set for Pakistan. Plus Pakistan is tired of US & they are trying to get as far as they can from US.

I want this trip to be a huge success for Pakistan.
 
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Why do you guys need to be always dependent on somebody or the other. First it was America, then China, then America again, and now Russia!!

For God's sake, Pakistan has the 2nd largest Salt mine, 5th Largest coal reserves, 7th largest copper mine, 5 rivers, 6th largest army, a nuclear power, and the 8th largest wheat producer!! And you still need to be forever dependent on largesse dished out by others?

Jeeez!


where i say that now we will depend on russia ???????????????????

open your eyes mate my aim was that we are no more depend on america now we are independent we can chose what is right for us.............
 
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Historic indeed, Russia is our natural ally, we were damn stupid to fight them !

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Russia might start defence seals with Pak ...considering anyways they will obtain the chinese version soon enough , why not give them the originals !!


But i dont think the same stuff as India..Missiles and Su 30 ...not i guess

There wont be any defense deal,may be some energy cooperation or installing some steel factories...
Russia is not mad that they will sign defense pacts on first visit with a country who provided bases to U.S against them and a country who receives chinese copies ....

so wait n watch,let the paksitanis jump..They will silent after visit :lol:
 
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Russia is also running out of it's 'allies'. Syria, gone. Libya, gone. India, tilting towards the US now. etc etc. So Russia also needs somebody to keep partner with. And also I believe the Russians are aware now that they also have a hand in Afghanistan when the US leaves. Along with China and India, Russia and Pakistan also have roles in the broader geo-political scenario of this region.

When the yanks have stopped funding us for some projects like Steel Mill and are giving us a cold shoulder on many things, a tilt in alliances is needed.
 
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LPC WASHINGTON and OBAMA.

Dont bring India in every PAK-RUSSIA thread... there is American factor behind all these developments not Indian.


Open your eyes wide and look at reality, Russia,s relationship with Pakistan will directly or indirectly depend on Indian interest.
 
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Is that all you can think? At this time and in these circumstances giving (offering sea port for Russian Navy or bases for missile defence sheild) would work just right. It's about building strong relationship, better partnership, and playing an effective and bigger role in world politics. material acquisitions are petty things.


How can a country gives her land/port so easily to any army/navy ??
 
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LOL I think those KGB articles were well worth it.

You just don't get it do you? No one wants anyone stronger besides themselves, period.

Does Russian wants India to be stronger than themselves? Please tell me they do.

China will be stronger than Russia, and Russians know it. There aren't alot they can do to stop it, thus they don't have to let it, and they go the other way by cooperating with China. Does Israel have an economy 4 times the US economy? let me check. Economy isn't everything, right. by all means, the way India is going, it sure looks that way.

AS for SCO, sure members can quit, but have they? they quit and then go where? join NATO and embrace the mighty US missile defense? Sure Russian is gonna have no problem with that. aside from the comment made for Puttin's election. Yeah they gonna be best friends.

Russian arms TOT to India is so great, China can not even come close, thus they gave you a FREE carrier, delivered in such a SHORT period, can't even imagine Russian give us such a deal. :cheers:

Russian is so mighty strong, countries bow down to her all the time. you know, country like India for example.

Transport oil to Europe? lol, please do some map checking, they have no closer oil supply right? yet they are not even that big of a consumer for oil compared to China.

If India wants to be a major player. It has to think like a major player. not some scared kid wants to buy guns because hes getting picked on all the time.

Pakistani politicians are way smarter, they know their cards. they don't pay billions instead they get paid billions. it is unique in the way that it is also the leader the of Muslim world. they have loyalty, they think independently. India better learn fast.

Does Russian wants India to be stronger than themselves? Please tell me they do.

1)No,Its not possible even in near future or i mean next 20 yrs...India dont have resources which makes it powerful than russia.
But if you look at present,china is threat not india and in next 20 yrs,may be india replaces china as threat.so they will take care of present rather than future.There are other factors too which binds interest.India have underdeveloped infrastructure,under developed industrial base,defense industry which china already have so russians have enough reason to invest n to get money back..like americans,french are doing now....but none of these countries close to markets like nuclear,defense when it comes to russia...so why russia will loose these points? ...It helps to increase the indian dependency on them which ensures that russia will remain as client state for india and be stronger than india and russsia have influence over other countries but india dont have....

China will be stronger than Russia, and Russians know it. There aren't alot they can do to stop it, thus they don't have to let it, and they go the other way by cooperating with China. Does Israel have an economy 4 times the US economy? let me check. Economy isn't everything, right. by all means, the way India is going, it sure looks that way.

2)If china will be stronger than russia then after 20-30 years,india will be stronger than china :wave: ...then why not bet on controlling china now and befriend with their enemy which is going to take over china in next 20-30 yrs
it will give only benefits..china will remain under control and russia will get enough stakes in indian market...
I m again telling you keep economy in side....economy is one of the factor which makes country powerful but not every thing.

ussian arms TOT to India is so great, China can not even come close, thus they gave you a FREE carrier, delivered in such a SHORT period, can't even imagine Russian give us such a deal.

Russian is so mighty strong, countries bow down to her all the time. you know, country like India for example.


3)You dont need to be close coz u coped them and hired theri engineers :lol: ....but we never copied them and took the hardware directly so dont compare the original and fake copies .. :wave:

it was not free carrier ...we gave money for it and completely changed the infrastructure of that carrier.there is difference b/w an ordinary car and mercedes :lol: and it really costs money.

Transport oil to Europe? lol, please do some map checking, they have no closer oil supply right? yet they are not even that big of a consumer for oil compared to China.

There are few of the issues where U.S have influence like russian entry in WTO and providing leverage over europe which is under U.S cover now...Rest of the cards depends on what russia offers to nato or europe in A

If India wants to be a major player. It has to think like a major player. not some scared kid wants to buy guns because hes getting picked on all the time.

4)We are major player already but conditions are not cleared for ex--WEst wants india-china as enemy so that both countries finishes each other n let the west to rule but china even have not opened their cards so its not possible to go in direct confrontation when you have 2.8 billion population and when intentions of enemy are not known completely.

There are other issues too like we are not is position coz of not much stronger military reach and economy too..let india grow till more 8-10 yrs then we will see ..

Pakistani politicians are way smarter, they know their cards. they don't pay billions instead they get paid billions. it is unique in the way that it is also the leader the of Muslim world. they have loyalty, they think independently. India better learn fast

5)Who told you that pakistan is leader of muslim world :lol:...you have killed your every post by saying dat :wave: ...
even paksitan doesnt come close to UAE and every politician to general of paksitan is sold out to U.S from birth.....
and independently? ...i dont have time to explain but i can shift your this point to stupid n funny section :lol:

your purpose is india bashing ,this is wat i got from u till now...
 
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