Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

[Gorgin Khan]

I am fully aware of what is happening in the region and I condemn it like any Muslim. But I have a simple question for you. Why Allah Almighty changed Qibla of Muslims? What was the lesson that was conveyed to Muslims? Jews have deeper claim on the promised land on religious grounds. This is not difficult to understand. Some thought should be given to this matter, bro.

That your path is separate than theirs! Secondly u cannot associate anything with them!

 

[aziqbal]

I have spoken much on the ills of this conflict and I am one of the few members who called for humanitarian assistance to Palestinians from Pakistan. I understand my faith well enough.

I see too much subjectivity in various claims as well, this in itself is a problem. Zionism stands for the Jewish right to have a state of its own in the promised land like in the past. This is it. But some have attempted to assert that Zionism is a Satanic movement and vice versa. Perhaps Allah Almighty is testing all believers on this issue and none of us can be sure how all all be judged in the end.

I am all for resolution of this conflict in best way possible.

But the calls of widening the conflict and wiping out Israel and such? Go ahead and find out, bro.

Brother you are not more Jewish than the Jews who follow the Torah word for word stop it it’s getting cringey

It says in many places that Jews are not to enter Jerusalem until God gives them the permission when real Messiah returns

Zionism is against teaching of Torah it’s ISIS version of Judaism

Isaiah ⁦‪1:27‬⁩-28
Isaiah 2:2, 3, 4
Ezekiel ⁦‪33:23‬⁩

If you know any true Torah Jews like I do ask them about these 3 verses and many more

Or use google

 

[Muhammed45]

The Algerian parliament granted the country's president the right to declare war on Israel​

Glories to this brave nation.

 

[sammuel]

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The BBC just watched the same film of Hamas atrocities as I did - how is it not terrorism?​

David Maddox joined a small group of journalists invited to the Israeli embassy to see gruesome footage of Hamas atrocities on October 7.​

The screening at the Israeli embassy in London for British journalists was no Hollywood movie.

Even the legendary director of the Halloween Freddy Krueger films Wes Craven would have struggled to replicate the cold, callous horror of 43 minutes of gruesome collated footage of the slaughter on October 7 by Hamas.

Its reality made it all the more chilling.

To a soundtrack of Allahu Akbar (God is Great in Arabic) we watched a stream of bloodlust, murder and terror by the mostly young men sent by Hamas into Israel to commit the biggest killing of Jews in a single day since the Holocaust.

Even the dog got it. A black Labrador, first to see a murderous group of Palestinian terrorists breaking into a Kibbutz compound, walking up with its tail wagging to say hello gunned down on the path before his killers went on to murder the people living there.

A total of 138 killings and bodies were played out made up mostly from footage of Hamas terrorist body cameras, with some social media from victims at the music festival, home security cameras and car dash cams.

It bears repeating that while the Nazis tried to hide their crimes in the 1930s and 1940s, Hamas recorded them to broadcast them.

At one point a Hamas terrorist could be heard calling his parents in Gaza boasting about the deaths.

“I killed 10 Jews with my bare hands. I’m a hero, hero, hero.”

Another called with the phone of one of his female victims to celebrate his killings.

Image after terrible image followed one another of teenagers and children burnt alive, an Israeli girl bleeding from her wounds dragged by her hair screaming into the back of a Jeep where her captors awaited her.
A father desperately protecting his sons killed with a grenade while his boys fled for their lives with blood pouring out of their wounds.

The panic of the teenagers at the ill-fated music festival, desperately trying to shield themselves from their assailants.
The corpse of a Thai worker, mistaken for an Israeli Jew kicked about as another Palestinian terrorist tried to behead him with a spade.

The last vision of people driving their cars ambushed on the road as bullet after bullet was calmly shot into them.

Unlike any drama we see on television or in the cinema, the carnage was real. The bloodlust of the young men literally dancing on corpses and parading dead bodies through Gaza was no act.

They seemed to be high on drugs or the thrill they clearly felt for the massacre they had committed.

Drunk on the blood of their victims.

Such unbridled hatred released with such relish by gun toting Palestinian extremists.

We agreed not to record the film or replicate the images out of respect to the victims’ families.

However, it was a sobering thought that the 138-body count in the screening was just scraping the surface of the atrocities committed that day.

Less than 10 percent of more than 1,400 killed not to mention the hundreds more wounded and 200 kidnapped with some of the most graphic images held back.

The BBC is wrong! The footage of Hamas atrocities I just witnessed is terrorism

David Maddox joined a small group of journalists invited to the Israeli embassy to see gruesome footage of Hamas atrocities on October 7.

www.express.co.uk

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[thetutle]

these people will not go down without a fight. This war might produce significant and possibly terrible cascading effects that are not being taken into account.

They will go down with a fight then. There is absolutely no way they are going to hang onto it. out of the last 2,000+ years they have had it for 75 years or so. and only with the backing and financing of 2 major world powers. The Muslims did not rule those lands for more than a millennia by accident. This is one century of humiliation for the muslims out of 14 centuries.

Statistics and logic and everything else point to these lands remaining under Muslim control once again sooner or later. Is there really any doubt?

I am just worried about what the hell this conflict will lead to.

I predict massive upheaval. many many countries will disappear, maps will be redrawn. The ones drawn in London in 1918 aren't working out so well for anyone. Casualties will be in the tens of millions. There is just no way around it. When you have world powers trying to retain their dominant positions and emerging powers and masses of humanity trying to build their own world order there is no way it can be resolved any other way.

Ok then most of Europe belongs to the Celts and Romans and Romans also claim north Africa along with Greece and then lots of land also belongs to Mongolians. How far back in history do appeasers wanna go back in defending Jewish claim myth

They are prepared to go back quite far indeed.

 

[sammuel]

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The BBC just watched the same film of Hamas atrocities as I did - how is it not terrorism?​

David Maddox joined a small group of journalists invited to the Israeli embassy to see gruesome footage of Hamas atrocities on October 7.​

By DAVID MADDOX, Political Editor
19:10, Thu, Nov 2, 2023 | UPDATED: 19:22, Thu, Nov 2, 2023


The screening at the Israeli embassy in London for British journalists was no Hollywood movie.

Even the legendary director of the Halloween Freddy Krueger films Wes Craven would have struggled to replicate the cold, callous horror of 43 minutes of gruesome collated footage of the slaughter on October 7 by Hamas.

Its reality made it all the more chilling.

To a soundtrack of Allahu Akbar (God is Great in Arabic) we watched a stream of bloodlust, murder and terror by the mostly young men sent by Hamas into Israel to commit the biggest killing of Jews in a single day since the Holocaust.

Even the dog got it. A black Labrador, first to see a murderous group of Palestinian terrorists breaking into a Kibbutz compound, walking up with its tail wagging to say hello gunned down on the path before his killers went on to murder the people living there.

A total of 138 killings and bodies were played out made up mostly from footage of Hamas terrorist body cameras, with some social media from victims at the music festival, home security cameras and car dash cams.

It bears repeating that while the Nazis tried to hide their crimes in the 1930s and 1940s, Hamas recorded them to broadcast them.

At one point a Hamas terrorist could be heard calling his parents in Gaza boasting about the deaths.

“I killed 10 Jews with my bare hands. I’m a hero, hero, hero.”

Another called with the phone of one of his female victims to celebrate his killings.

Image after terrible image followed one another of teenagers and children burnt alive, an Israeli girl bleeding from her wounds dragged by her hair screaming into the back of a Jeep where her captors awaited her.
A father desperately protecting his sons killed with a grenade while his boys fled for their lives with blood pouring out of their wounds.

The panic of the teenagers at the ill-fated music festival, desperately trying to shield themselves from their assailants.
The corpse of a Thai worker, mistaken for an Israeli Jew kicked about as another Palestinian terrorist tried to behead him with a spade.

The last vision of people driving their cars ambushed on the road as bullet after bullet was calmly shot into them.

Unlike any drama we see on television or in the cinema, the carnage was real. The bloodlust of the young men literally dancing on corpses and parading dead bodies through Gaza was no act.

They seemed to be high on drugs or the thrill they clearly felt for the massacre they had committed.

Drunk on the blood of their victims.

Such unbridled hatred released with such relish by gun toting Palestinian extremists.

We agreed not to record the film or replicate the images out of respect to the victims’ families.

However, it was a sobering thought that the 138-body count in the screening was just scraping the surface of the atrocities committed that day.

Less than 10 percent of more than 1,400 killed not to mention the hundreds more wounded and 200 kidnapped with some of the most graphic images held back.

The BBC is wrong! The footage of Hamas atrocities I just witnessed is terrorism

David Maddox joined a small group of journalists invited to the Israeli embassy to see gruesome footage of Hamas atrocities on October 7.

www.express.co.uk

 

[Bugsy Boy]

The Algerian parliament granted the country's president the right to declare war on Israel​

Glories to this brave nation.

سبحان اللہ

 

[LeGenD]

Alright guys, continue. But focus on providing updates and respect Forum Rules.

 

[Gorgin Khan]

There is additional angle to this - to promote interfaith harmony. This is very interesting debate and you will find many views on it.

he is misinterpreting the ayah..... Full stop.. No recommended....

 

[Corax]

Really ?

The Strarbuck logo" honors the jewish queen Esther " ?

Do you just search for the most stupid things online and post them here ?

Starbucks logo is a Siren , mermaid , - i doubt we have those in the bible.

Suggested reading :

Why a Siren, Starbucks? – Behind the Starbucks Logo Design​

Why a Siren, Starbucks? - Behind the Starbucks Logo Design

The Starbucks logo design is one that presents many questions to those of us who notice a mermaid is serving our coffee, but what's the meaning?

logoworks.com

A History of the Starbucks Logo​

A History of the Starbucks Logo - Tailor Brands

Learn about the secrets of the siren, and find out what else made Starbucks logo so iconic and popular that it's recognized worldwide!

www.tailorbrands.com

Starbuck original mermaids logos .

Did not know Queen Esther had a tail.


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The cult of Abraham believes in many mythical fictional creatures, such as Behemoth, Leviathan, Angels, Demons, Nephilim, Re'em, Ziz and dragons mentioned in the bible. You may as well believe in mermaids and tooth fairies, dumb fckng kunt.

 

[LeGenD]

Well now I have heard it all. if this is the view of the Pakistani moderators, I've surely stumbled on the wrong forum. And it would explain a lot of things about this forum.

PDF management is not a circle of religious clerics but aimed to manage this forum. WE have non-Muslim members in it. I can appreciate an honest response but not trolling. Members are chosen to Moderate on the grounds of having the aptitude for Moderation and productivity in the forum. WE have to make difficult decisions - something you will not understand. PDF does not stand for religious debates and causes. You might be in the wrong forum if this is your thought process.

 

[PakAlp]

Purpose of Palestinian liberation movement.

 

[Mustang125]

PDF management is not a circle of religious clerics but aimed to manage this forum. WE have non-Muslim members in it. I can appreciate an honest response but not trolling. Members are chosen to Moderate on the grounds of having the aptitude for Moderation and productivity in the forum. WE have to make difficult decisions - something you will not understand. PDF does not stand for religious debates and causes. You might in the wrong forum if this is your thought process.

Correct sir, I need to stop mentioning religion too often. Will take it as personal feedback for myself. I am very guilty for this.

 

[sammuel]

Jews and Arabs believe they're both descended from Abraham, the Arabs from Ismail, the Jews from Isaac. This blood feud goes back thousands of years, the current conflict is only the most recent. The cult of Abraham is responsible for untold suffering inflicted on human kind.

No it is not going on for thousand of years , more like a 100 years old. No so strong in history ?

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[Corax]

No it is not going on for thousand of years , more like a 100 years old. No so strong in history ?

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You obviously don't know the history of the cult of Abraham, why would you, you're a cow sh1t worshipping goym hindu.