Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

[thetutle]

They can't use that nuclear power because Israelis also have it, it would be MAD.

It would be deterrence

Nuclear war is totally winnable. There isn't a lot of radiation left after an explosion because of the small amount of fissile material in each nuke. Casualties would be huge, but things would go on. World would go on. What would not go on is the conflict in the middle east. The issue would be settled for 100 years.

 

[Oldman1]

Nuclear weapons are about deterrence. The only people to have ever used them is the United States.

Yes the first and last.

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719357500066058395

 

[Oldman1]

You're funny. Gaza was being bombed for decades, long before this false-flag attack. Nice try though. Try again.

Oh so this so called Hamas raids were false flag attacks. Israelis planned it all working in collaboration with Hamas right? Just like 9/11 attacks were false flag.

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719355998400319870

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719364841209487504

 

[Enigma SIG]

Tragically a lot of people were in on the gravy train to raze Yemen to the ground at the Saudi master's will, earning mercenary dollars and what not. The same people are no where to be found, while Yemeni's are lobbing missiles at Israel.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

I am also against the forced expulsion of Palestinians by religious Jews, but I am also not in favour of any Islamic state, where non-Muslims like us don't have equal human rights and have to live in fear.

I will always support a Secular State where I will have equal human rights and Muslims too will have equal human rights.

Israel is getting worse as Jewish fanatics are becoming strong there, but it is still a Secular state where at least you have equal religious rights.

sap looks like you're having a field day! Virtue signaling on blood of the victims... living in a bubble of your own making you don't even know how ridiculous you sound... only because you have reconciled with your reality, and only but you have to live in it! It allows you the platform and purchase to project.

That Swede and you have much in common, perhaps drank from the same tap! And I know for a fact that your kind will flip on a switch should the paradigm change. Once status quo changes to one dominated by Muslims and just like in the past Europe starts coveting what it doesn't possess. Guess what in this ebb and flow... Muslims have been through the riches and ravages.

This isn't new, it certainly isn't the end either... but that ultimate end, the logical conclusion isn't there with the combined west. Me and you here are way past that prime, the peak of what was or is western civilization. The key difference here is that you've romanticized it's peak while I pierced the mentle to bare it's underpinnings, the flaws. It is by no accident, death and void stares it back... aptly termed, nihilistic in nature and conduct.

So, even if you don't delve into it... you know in your heart, one that bothers you of it's apparent doom, of something that would be left in it's wake!

 

[Lehrasap]

Your post is stupid in multiple ways,

the average age of the Jew is 43 in Israel, the average age of the occupation is 19

A greater number of Palestinians are entering into the marriage and family phase then the Jews are

The population of Palestinians and Jews is now equal across the land but the Palestinians demographically will become the majority over the next decades

In Israel, Muslims are never going to be majority voters. Either they would be given some part of land, or expelled to other countries.

The Muslim population is increasing ACROSS THE WORLD

It is increasing mainly in Muslim countries and it is known as OVER Population, which will become a headache for them.

In India is the Muslim population is now 240 million approx, the more India divides into a hate filled communal dump
The more the populations seperate from each other
The whole point of partition was that the populations of Indians hated each other and needed separation
That will increase inside India and you will have areas of hindus, Sikhs, Muslims and Christians seperate from each other

You are very much mistaken. Non-Muslim population of India was very much welcoming to Indian Muslims.
But then they turned extremely against Islam due to their own wrongdoings of Indian Muslims.
Hindu extremists are a headache too, but for sure Secular Hindus, Christians and Sikhs also don't like Political Islam.
There is no way Indian Muslims will gain any power in India in future. They have already been neutralized.

The atheist movement HAS NOT JUST BEGUN it's always been here, but they don't marry, they don't have families, they don't have many children

Atheists were present on an individual basis in the West, but there has never been any organized movement.
But today, we are watching the rise of the organised atheist movement.
Modern media is not only helping Muslims to spread Islam, but this is also helping atheists to spread their message.
This is the main reason that for the first time in the 14 centuries-long history of Islam, ex-Muslims started appearing everywhere.

Demographic reality for them is poor
They become atheist, they tend to lose their family, values, culture and community
Unlikely to marry or have big families
That's why long term population trends for atheists are so low (look it up)

Atheists existed in China, Vietnam, Japan etc for centuries and their population didn't shrink due to their atheism. But the main reason is the modern world, where people don't need family support to survive.
That is why people in Pakistani cities have less numbers of children than people in Pakistani villages.

Despite the shrinkage of their population, still atheism is the fastest-spreading ideology in the West (and not Islam).

Another fact, there are only Christians in the West who may convert to Islam. But there is almost 0% chance that any atheist ever convert to Islam.

But the opposite is true. The rate at which Muslims are becoming ex-Muslims and converting to atheism is far bigger than any atheist conversion towards Islam.

Once you understand and accept evolution, then there is no chance in ever believing in the fantasy stories of Adam and Eve.

You don't understand secularism YOU MUST BE A PAJEET
Secularism does not mean giving up your faith or values or pretending to be white or European or anything
Secularism is fundamentally religious rules not being allowed to dictate to government or politics and all people thus being equal under the government
The INDIVIDUAL however have the FREEDOM to be as religious as they want and no one can force them to break their values or faith

Secularism does not mean you assimilate into something you are not or larp as white people, forgetting your own values, culture or faith

Islam is spreading, our population will hit 3 billion soon enough

We have enough numbers to hate any enemy, and our enemies should be more concerned about pissing us off

You are misunderstanding the situation.
Secularism gives freedom of religion and choice on an INDIVIDUAL level. If any person does not want to participate in Christman celebrations, he has full right to it.
But the problem with Muslims is that their religion tells them to not participate in
Christmas celebrations on COLLECTIVE Level as it is Haram to participate in Kuffar's festivals.
When Muslims feed this hatred in their children against Western people, then it is no more Secularism, but this drives them to form a movement of POLITICAL Islam.
This Political Islam then further drives them to get rid of Secular laws in Western society and replace them with Sharia laws.

With this behaviour of inciting hatred against non-Muslims in one way or another, and replacing secular laws through their political Islamic movement, Muslims are not doing any service to humanity-friendly Secular system, but they have betrayed it and stabbed a dagger in its back.

The reaction of Political Islam is shown when human-friendly left-wing parties are losing in elections, and far-right parties are gaining more popularity.

Sooner or later, the Western countries will also start behaving like Indian Hindus, and responsible are Muslims themselves who stabbed Secularism in its back with their Political Islamic movement.

 

[FuturePAF]

They all need to start defending themselves. No point trying to rely for support when Israel has 200% backing to commit their goal.

Arab countries rely on foreign support (to counter Iran) makes them vulnerable to dealing directly with Iran (at the table, hopefully) to create a new regional balance.

Foreign support comes with their own interests which may not be aligned fully with the interests of the Arab countries as this conflict is showing.

The sooner Arab countries learn to solve problems with each other at the table, the shift to using economic power to create a more sustainable and stable future is possible, as was the original desire of King Faisal 100 years ago.

 

[RescueRanger]

Today Israel has taken an UTurn and agreed to allow UN observers including the under secretary general visas to enter Gaza. Last week Israel had said if would refuse visas to the UN and observers.

So public and political pressure internationally is working and building.

The problem is that the looming public health crisis in Palestine especially Gaza is unmonitored and could be absolutely devastating.

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719364102441615720

 

[ZeGerman]

That's not a Merkava tank.

Thats the third non merkava tank hassan tried to pass on as being an israeli loss.

@Hassan Al-Somal
Come on somali, do some fact check before copy-pasting junk sources.

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719293927046398272

 

[FuturePAF]

Maybe I am incorrect in this but I have an inclination to assume that many of the economic advisors for the Saudis are Westerners (just as they are for the smaller Gulf countries). If that is true, I am certain that they will never suggest such pan-Islamic schemes that could rival western monopolies.

Indeed, Arabs need to consult with their best domestic economic advisors or even internationally well known managers such as Mohammad El-Arian ($1.5 Trillion under management) if I’m not mistaken.

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

They can't use that nuclear power because Israelis also have it, it would be MAD.

It would be deterrence

No one wants you to use nuclear power... But you must have nuclear power. Because in front of nuclear forces. Everyone is equal.

As a technologically backward country. Cannot make/buy advanced weapons. Not even nuclear weapons. We don't know how it defends its final dignity.