Future of SD-10 in PAF?

[MilSpec]

Until is seen being taken out and in drums. It is as good as non-existent. So regardless of if's and buts. Pakistan has no oil.



We already have a proprietary link known as link-17 that is compatible with link 16.

J-series programming or machine language encoders? any more info to read?

 

[Basel]

@Bilal Khan 777 @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Windjammer @Zarvan @gambit @Blue Marlin

will it be good / feasible for PAF to initially go for available used EFT trench-1 & 2s? How much capabilities they would offer compared to frontline fighters of IAF and PAF's F-16?

 

[Windjammer]

@Bilal Khan 777 @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Windjammer @Zarvan @gambit @Blue Marlin

will it be good / feasible for PAF to initially go for available used EFT trench-1 & 2s? How much capabilities they would offer compared to frontline fighters of IAF and PAF's F-16?

In BVR they are in a class of their own but WVR , PAF has repeatedly outclassed them while flying in their F-16s.

 

[_NOBODY_]

In BVR they are in a class of their own but WVR , PAF has repeatedly outclassed them while flying in their F-16s.

That was due to superior pilot skills. Typhoon is superior in WVR combat.

 

[SQ8]

J-series programming or machine language encoders? any more info to read?

My only involvement was reading through these two and then providing them an idea of how a mid-point product it could be simulated onto matlab and then implemented in C embedded(part way because we are big on TI).
Did not even know it was going to end up being called Link-17
http://everyspec.com/MIL-STD/MIL-STD-3000-9999/MIL-STD-6016C_NOTICE-2_22648/
http://standards.globalspec.com/std/419657/nato-stanag-5522

That was due to superior pilot skills. Typhoon is superior in WVR combat.

That depends. It is excellent at high speed energy maneuvering, but not too good in the slow speed nose pointing.

 

[Basel]

In BVR they are in a class of their own but WVR , PAF has repeatedly outclassed them while flying in their F-16s.

If PAF pilots fly even trench1 & 2s with meteor BVR and ASRAAM / IRIS-T / A-Darter with HMD how much it will enhance PAF's capabilities against IAF's frontline fighters?

 

[Sine Nomine]

That depends. It is excellent at high speed energy maneuvering, but not too good in the slow speed nose pointing.

One thing is clear sir,we are pretty much screwed in arena of Fighters,we are seriously lagging behind in both Quality and Quantity pretty much due to economy.If we failed,we are doomed.
Recent Acquisition of SAM's seems a stop gap measure,until we have money to buy Jets.

 

[Basel]

My only involvement was reading through these two and then providing them an idea of how a mid-point product it could be simulated onto matlab and then implemented in C embedded(part way because we are big on TI).
Did not even know it was going to end up being called Link-17
http://everyspec.com/MIL-STD/MIL-STD-3000-9999/MIL-STD-6016C_NOTICE-2_22648/
http://standards.globalspec.com/std/419657/nato-stanag-5522


That depends. It is excellent at high speed energy maneuvering, but not too good in the slow speed nose pointing.

So that is why trench-3B is suppose to have TVC?

 

[Sine Nomine]

My only involvement was reading through these two and then providing them an idea of how a mid-point product it could be simulated onto matlab and then implemented in C embedded(part way because we are big on TI).
Did not even know it was going to end up being called Link-17
http://everyspec.com/MIL-STD/MIL-STD-3000-9999/MIL-STD-6016C_NOTICE-2_22648/
http://standards.globalspec.com/std/419657/nato-stanag-5522

How much that system is resistant to Jamming.

 

[SQ8]

So that is why trench-3B is suppose to have TVC?

No. Tranche -3 will be offered with a wing root LERX to assist in slow speed performance enhancement.
No TVC for current customers for Tranche-3.

How much that system is resistant to Jamming.

Classified. But very robust against Jamming.

 

[Basel]

No. Tranche -3 will be offered with a wing root LERX to assist in slow speed performance enhancement.
No TVC for current customers for Tranche-3.


Classified. But very robust against Jamming.

There will be two trench-3s A & B I m talking about 3B not initial trench-3.

Can you post any illustration or pic of EFT with LERX? Giving an idea how it will look.

some nice info about EFT in below link.

http://www.janes.com/article/56174/sdsr-2015-typhoon-service-life-extended-and-numbers-increased

 

[SQ8]

There will be two trench-3s A & B I m talking about 3B not initial trench-3.

Can you post any illustration or pic of EFT with LERX? Giving an idea how it will look.

some nice info about EFT in below link.

http://www.janes.com/article/56174/sdsr-2015-typhoon-service-life-extended-and-numbers-increased

https://tacairnet.com/2015/07/15/improving-the-typhoons-aerodynamics/

Tranche 3B is only for sale- possibly to Kuwait or Oman. No TVC.

 

[Blue Marlin]

https://tacairnet.com/2015/07/15/improving-the-typhoons-aerodynamics/

Tranche 3B is only for sale- possibly to Kuwait or Oman. No TVC.

the 3b was proposed to come with tvc. the design work is done. it just needs a buyer.
the 3b would be scraping 5th gen territory only stealth hindering its chance of being called a 5th gen fighter
most likely the turks will go for tvc with the ej-2xx for their tfx
oman and kuwait will be going for the 3a variant but only kuwait will have the captor-e aesa radar

 

[SQ8]

the 3b was proposed to come with tvc. the design work is done. it just needs a buyer.
the 3b would be scraping 5th gen territory only stealth hindering its chance of being called a 5th gen fighter
most likely the turks will go for tvc with the ej-2xx for their tfx
oman and kuwait will be going for the 3a variant but only kuwait will have the captor-e aesa radar

In other words. No TVC.
Being planned and being flight tested and ordered are two different realities.

 

[Blue Marlin]

@Bilal Khan 777 @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Windjammer @Zarvan @gambit @Blue Marlin

will it be good / feasible for PAF to initially go for available used EFT trench-1 & 2s? How much capabilities they would offer compared to frontline fighters of IAF and PAF's F-16?

the tranche 1 are quiet old now and the Spaniards and the Austrians are prepared to get rid of them and have been offered to other countries.

In other words. No TVC.
Being planned and being flight tested and ordered are two different realities.

well...................ok
but if we get rid of some of our tranche1's and order 48 3b's, i would assume they would request tvc with greater thrust. i think i read that in the white paper.