NeutralCitizen
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It seems Bangladeshi should start preparing themselves a 150 million people on a small patch of land with the sea rising and India sealing it's borders.
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@ Because solving bilateral disputes and working together, as opposed to nurturing the mistrust and undermining each other's national security, is good for both Bangladesh and India. Many Bangladeshis AND Indians don't understand this, and don't want to.
@ Solving problems/disputes bilaterally with India !!!!! In which plannet you are staying ??????? Do you ever tried to know what are those disputes/problems with India ? With my experiences we have thousand and one problems with India. Once we solve one problem India raises another problem. Let me summarizes some of the sousand and one problems :
1. After independance India took all the war materials which were surrendared by the Pakistani forces. These equipments were belonged to us which India never gave to such. Subsequently, we had to spend lot of money on this sector, still we are spending money on it.
2. Indian forces took lot valuable things from our country while going back and never returned.
3. Our jute market was taken away by establishing the world HQ of Jute at Bombay. We were restricted to export jute directly.
4. Restriction imposed on our foreign policy.
5. Our administration, internal security, state policy etc all were controlled by India till 1975.
6. We handed over "Berubari" enclave to India in exchange we got only "Thin Bigha" corridor, that too it took 40 years !!!!!
7. India sponsored an insurgency movement in Chittagong for 27 years where we lost around 30 thousand people including our para-military forces. A major portion of our defence budget was expend on it.
8. Whenever we tried to explore our natural resources, India at once came with her nesty hand. There are many inccidents.
9. India had a dirty hand in our garments sectors.
10. India also had a short hand on our "shirimp" business in the European market.
11. India also gave a dirty finger in our labour market in middle-east and Malaysia.
12. India is a nation which is borned to finger us till the last.
13. India always gives a false promises.
1. Thank you. We are already getting plenty of assistance from PLAN.
2. BN is concentrating on phased development which will take it to a brown navy capability. In the first phase we are looking at the Bay of Bengal which we must make invincible through Swarming Tactics like the Iranians. We have a lot of islands which we are developing for air defense, long range weapon base and air strips. In fact static aircraft carriers. We will integrate these with shore defense.
3. In the next phase we want BN to be able operate independently in the Andaman Sea. The sub our personnel are training g for is Turkish built based on a S African - German model with inputs from S Korea. We have lined up for most advanced frigates and catamaran fast missile boats from China. We should eventually get at least two destroyers with massive shore bombardment capability.
4. BN follows PLAN closely in its development. In short BN ops will be complementary to PLAN's ops in this region. As BN will look for facilities in Indonesian and Malaysian ports, we will provide same to PLAN in BD. In fact there is a long standing offer by PLAN to build submarine bases here. For long GOB has under consideration a PLAN proposal to place a nuclear sub in one of these bases.
Could you elaborate with examples? I knew about those cheap clothes that came from India at the time. Put them in water, and colors will fly in the water
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MILITARY CO-OPERATION BETWEEN INDIA AND BD WILL INCREASING AS BD'S ECONOMIC STATUS IS ALSO INCREASING!!!!!!
@ Once the Indian Army withdrew(forcely by Sk Mujib) from Bnagladesh they took many valuable things other than war materials:
1. In April 1971 in Rajshahi once the area came under the control of Mukti Bahini, we tried to transmit the Radia Rajshahi but could not since due to Pakistani air action some critical parts were damaged. Soon Indian exparts from Calcutta came. But instead of repairing the radio station they took the whole trnasmiter and never returned to Bnagladesh even after independance.
2. The India army took many jute factory equipments from Adamjee Jute Mills. Besides jute mills through out Bnagladesh other textile equipments were also taken away.
3. Indian army also took many projector machines from the cinema halls.
4. Thay took most of the TV, freezes and other electronic items.
5. They even took the basins, taps and furnitures.
6. There are evidences that even they snatch away money from the common people.
Do you have any evidence?
Indian army left . . . . they could've stayed, but they left . . . . after helping us. Remember, they opened their borders for our people. Try to stay on topic while you answer.
they wanted 2 break pakistan thats why they helped us not bcoz they love us
u rawami member
No, just Bangladeshi. And oh, whatever the reason is, they HELPED us. Fact!
yes yes i know what fact is n u r talking about taking over BD why the **** they want 2
take over BD its a small land with huge poor muslim population
Do you have any evidence?
Indian army left . . . . they could've stayed, but they left . . . . after helping us. Remember, they opened their borders for our people. Try to stay on topic while you answer.
They also stole the proverbial kitchen sink.
@ Once the Indian Army withdrew(forcely by Sk Mujib) from Bnagladesh they took many valuable things other than war materials:
1. In April 1971 in Rajshahi once the area came under the control of Mukti Bahini, we tried to transmit the Radia Rajshahi but could not since due to Pakistani air action some critical parts were damaged. Soon Indian exparts from Calcutta came. But instead of repairing the radio station they took the whole trnasmiter and never returned to Bnagladesh even after independance.
2. The India army took many jute factory equipments from Adamjee Jute Mills. Besides jute mills through out Bnagladesh other textile equipments were also taken away.
3. Indian army also took many projector machines from the cinema halls.
4. Thay took most of the TV, freezes and other electronic items.
5. They even took the basins, taps and furnitures.
6. There are evidences that even they snatch away money from the common people.
11. A new aggravating factor made its appearance in East Pakistan in the wake of the military action of the 25th of March 1971, when units of the Pakistan Army undertook "sweep operations" throughout the Province to deal with the Awami League insurgents. The Army had to go out into the countryside without adequate logistic arrangements, and was compelled, at least in the early stages of its operations to take its requirements of foodgrains and other essential supplies from civilian sources. Unfortunately, however, the practice appears to have persisted even when it became possible to make proper logistic arrangements. There is evidence to the effect that civilian shops and stores were broken into by the troops without preparing any record of what was taken and from where. The need for commandeering vehicles, foodstuffs, medicines and other essential supplies can certainly be appreciated, but this should have been done under a proper method of accounting so that compensation could be paid on return of normal conditions. As no such procedure was adopted, it led to a general feeling among the troops, including their officers that they were entitled to take whatever they wanted from wherever they liked. This appears to us to be the genesis of the looting alleged to have been indulged in by the Army in East Pakistan.
12. In the early stages this method of procurement seems to have been encouraged by senior commanders, including Lt. Gen Niazi, whose remarks on the very first day of his taking over command from Gen Tikka Khan have already been quoted by us in an earlier chapter, viz: "what have I been hearing about shortage of rations? Are not there any cows and goats in this country? This is enemy territory. Get what you want. This is what we used to do in Burma." (vide Maj Gen Farman Ali's Evidence). Gen Niazi did not, of course, accept having made any such statement and asserted that "whatever we took we gave a chit so that civil government should pay for that". This assertion is not supported by other officers. On the contrary, some officers like Lt. Col. Bukhori, (Witness No. 244) have made a positive statement that even written orders were received by them emanating from the Eastern Command to live of the land during sweep operations.
13. However, at a later stage the Eastern Command and the divisional Commanders issued strict instructions in an effort to stop such practices, and some Commanders caused searches to be carried out of the barracks occupied by the troops for the recovery of looted material which included television sets, refrigerators, typewriters, watches, gold, airconditioners and other attractive items. We were informed that in several cases disciplinary action by way of Courts of Inquiries was initiated but the cases could not be finalised for one reasons or the other before the surrender on the 16th of December 1971.
24. The evidence of Maj Gen Nazar Hussain Shah (Witness No. 242 GOC 16 Div, Maj Gen M.H Ansari (Witness NO. 233) GOC, 9 Div, as well as of Brig Baqir Siddiqui (Witness No. 218) Chief of Staff, Eastern Command, disclosed that these officers and their units were involved in large scale looting, including the theft of Rs. 1,35,00,000 from the National Bank Treasury at Siraj Gaj. This amount was intercepted by a JCO at the Paksi Bridge crossing when it was being carried in the lower part of the body of a truck. The driver of the truck produced a chit reading "released by Major Maddad". We were informed that a Court o Inquiry was conveyed under the Chairmanship of Maj Gen M.H Ansari who had recorded some evidence, but could not complete the inquiry owing to the outbreak of war.