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I also love Turkey and was in Istanbul in August. I find my political, social outlook mostly resonates with your average Turk. However I fear Pakistani's and Turks are slowly on paths that are diverging and over time a gulf will become apparent. It actually already exists but because of limited people to people exchanges it has not manifested itself. Here is the reasons.
Turkey is everything Pakistan is not. Where they turned left Pakistan turned right.
Turkey is a profoundly secular state and so are the people. Even the moderatly Islamist AKP remains a secular state. In Istanbul you will see a Turkish girl drunk wqearing a miniskirt walking along a street opposite a mosque with hijab wearing ladies. Alcohol is openly sold. Indeed the adverts for alcohol [expensive wines etc] were everywhere in the new huge Istanbul airport. Nightlife is major industry in Istanbul. The new generation of Turks have little differance and gravitate more towards Ukrainans, Bulgarians, Germans, Isreali's other Turkic people like Azerbaiijabni etc then Pakistani's. What I am saying is Turks are just a Western people compared to Pakiostani's.
This reality is most apparent when you see how Pakistani's addicted to the Turkish Ertuigrul get a shock when they find the stars no differant to Western stars then anything else and then their confused comments on twitter about how they are not Islamic. Fact is majority of the younger generation of Turks are like that. I saw that close up front.
Then there is political factor. Turkey remains integral to NATO and USA. Turkey is part of the Western spear. Also even Erdogan's Turkey retains links with Israel. The recent war in Azerbaian has shown how much Israeli influence plays a role in Turkic nations. Lot of the weapons in that war are Israeli supplied.
Furthermore most Turks despise China who we ragard as a messiah. It's important to note Turkish relationships are not premised on Islam but strategic or ethnic. So far instance they are crazy about pan Turan movement including Uighurs because of Turkic blood. On the other hand they despise Saudia Arabia etc.
I might be wrong but this is my informed view and the sudden departure of most Turks from PDF is merely a precusor of the future and a idea in which direction the wind is blowing. Never forget the Turkish Republic is SECULAR. Ataturk is their god. Pakistan is opposite of that. Note I am a member of certain Turkish forum.
Turkey is everything Pakistan is not. Where they turned left Pakistan turned right.
Turkey is a profoundly secular state and so are the people. Even the moderatly Islamist AKP remains a secular state. In Istanbul you will see a Turkish girl drunk wqearing a miniskirt walking along a street opposite a mosque with hijab wearing ladies. Alcohol is openly sold. Indeed the adverts for alcohol [expensive wines etc] were everywhere in the new huge Istanbul airport. Nightlife is major industry in Istanbul. The new generation of Turks have little differance and gravitate more towards Ukrainans, Bulgarians, Germans, Isreali's other Turkic people like Azerbaiijabni etc then Pakistani's. What I am saying is Turks are just a Western people compared to Pakiostani's.
This reality is most apparent when you see how Pakistani's addicted to the Turkish Ertuigrul get a shock when they find the stars no differant to Western stars then anything else and then their confused comments on twitter about how they are not Islamic. Fact is majority of the younger generation of Turks are like that. I saw that close up front.
Then there is political factor. Turkey remains integral to NATO and USA. Turkey is part of the Western spear. Also even Erdogan's Turkey retains links with Israel. The recent war in Azerbaian has shown how much Israeli influence plays a role in Turkic nations. Lot of the weapons in that war are Israeli supplied.
Furthermore most Turks despise China who we ragard as a messiah. It's important to note Turkish relationships are not premised on Islam but strategic or ethnic. So far instance they are crazy about pan Turan movement including Uighurs because of Turkic blood. On the other hand they despise Saudia Arabia etc.
I might be wrong but this is my informed view and the sudden departure of most Turks from PDF is merely a precusor of the future and a idea in which direction the wind is blowing. Never forget the Turkish Republic is SECULAR. Ataturk is their god. Pakistan is opposite of that. Note I am a member of certain Turkish forum.
