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French Foreign Minister:
"If Turkey insists on vetoing Sweden and Finland's accession to NATO, questions will be raised about its behavior as a member of the North Atlantic Alliance.
Does it want to strengthen the Alliance or is it against it?
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Turkish obstructionism against Swedish and Finnish NATO membership, its limited offensive in Iraq, and its prospective offensive in Syria , it's growing diplomatic tension with Greece, have grabbed international attention, an ever-festering lesion that threatens to burst.

 
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its limited offensive in Iraq, and its prospective offensive Syria
What's wrong with this?

it's growing diplomatic tension with Greece
Nothing wrong with this, Your Greek leaders knew what they were getting themselves into when they joined NATO. Turkiye has the right to harass your air space whenever we please buddy.
 
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may be nato take turkey out for Sweden very easily

NATO cannot throw out Turkiye.

French Foreign Minister:
"If Turkey insists on vetoing Sweden and Finland's accession to NATO, questions will be raised about its behavior as a member of the North Atlantic Alliance.
Does it want to strengthen the Alliance or is it against it?
"

Turkish obstructionism against Swedish and Finnish NATO membership, its limited offensive in Iraq, and its prospective offensive in Syria , it's growing diplomatic tension with Greece, have grabbed international attention, an ever-festering lesion that threatens to burst.


Turkey has all the trump cards. NATO has no option but to appease Turkey.
 
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Greeks seem to be obsessed with Turkiye.
Even foreigners are beginning to see this mentally unstable behavior of our neighbors. Many Greek media outlets even have a separate section just for Turkey and Turkish news.

It's always mindblowing for a Turk to realize how much they talk and debate about us while in Turkey Greece is barely in the news. Just crazy. They literally talk everyday about Turkey. It's kind of fascinating.

NATO cannot throw out Turkiye.



Turkey has all the trump cards. NATO has no option but to appease Turkey.
They cannot and they will not throw us out. We're the country that is tipping the balance of power in favor of the Union. The Western world is powerful but they cannot deal with Russia, China and Turkey at the same time.
 
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Turkey is confused country don't know what to do but they are making big mistake not allowing Sweden in nato may be nato take turkey out for Sweden very easily
Turkey has always played the role of the Evasive Neutral, but in depth it always promotes its redemptive plans.
Foreigners like the French minister are of the opinion that Turkey must choose, either to be with NATO or to be for itself. This is utopia thinking.
Because we know it, Turkey does not pay a penny for alliances and friendships, when they do not go along with its aspirations.
 
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What's wrong with this?


Nothing wrong with this, Your Greek leaders knew what they were getting themselves into when they joined NATO. Turkiye has the right to harass your air space whenever we please buddy.
How good or bad or wrong or whatever, is which way you look at it. For some, the ongoing and in-depth invasion of Iraq and Syria, when all those involved are negative (Syria, Iraq, Russia, USA, France, UK, etc.) for Turkey is not wrong. But these actions affect the security of the region, because the Kurds will not let Turkey thresh on their territory.
Even what you are telling me that Turkey has the right to harass the Greek air space is a proof that Turkey is not interested in any alliance and confirms my previous comment.
 
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How good or bad or wrong or whatever, is which way you look at it. For some, the ongoing and in-depth invasion of Iraq and Syria, when all those involved are negative (Syria, Iraq, Russia, USA, France, UK, etc.) for Turkey is not wrong. But these actions affect the security of the region, because the Kurds will not let Turkey thresh on their territory.
Even what you are telling me that Turkey has the right to harass the Greek air space is a proof that Turkey is not interested in any alliance and confirms my previous comment.
NATO is just a Anglo-Saxon alliance. It should/will be them that decide who is useful for them or not, not some Greek lol
 
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If Turkiye were against the enlargement of NATO, while Greece was trying to prevent Turkiye's membership in all the institutions of which it is a member, it would not approve their NATO membership in 1980.

If Turkiye were against NATO enlargement, it would not have approved the return of France to the NATO military wing in 2003.

If Turkiye were against the NATO enlargement, it would not have approved the membership of the Baltic and Balkan countries.

Drop the cheap populism!

If Sweden and Finland are to become members of NATO, they have to take into the security concerns of Turkiye which is one of the important member of the alliance for 70 years.

If Turkiye's reservations are not taken into account and confidence-building steps are not taken, the most pathetic thing that can be done will be that these countries deceive their own people.

The idiot politicians who accuses Turkiye of somethings should read the NATO membership documets for once.
 
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In 1980, at the peak of the Cold War, you could not even cough without the permission of the US and the USSR, let alone say no to the RE-ACCESSION of Greece to the military wing of NATO and not το the ENALRGEMENT as you deliberately wrote.
Beyond that, do not repeat the same, actually now speaking French Germans and generally the majority of NATO countries about the Turkish blackmail games. It does not matter, they learn you from the first hand how unreliable allies you are. Greece, of course, never considered you as ally.
 
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As a matter of fact, Turkey is the most powerful country in active military force of NATO except the USA.
 
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In 1980, at the peak of the Cold War, you could not even cough without the permission of the US and the USSR, let alone say no to the RE-ACCESSION of Greece to the military wing of NATO and not το the ENALRGEMENT as you deliberately wrote.
Beyond that, do not repeat the same, actually now speaking French Germans and generally the majority of NATO countries about the Turkish blackmail games. It does not matter, they learn you from the first hand how unreliable allies you are. Greece, of course, never considered you as ally.
As a citizen of a country that has problems with Albania (EEZ) and Macedonia (with their constitution), some of the most peaceful countries in the world, you are using the wrong arguments. Greek politics is fundamentally based on blackmail and threats. Their counter-politics are based on exploiting a country's problems and exporting your own problems to other states that have problems with them.

Frankly, no one gives a damn that Greece and really not important that if not see us as allies, which is an ordinary Balkan country, whose population will decrease to 7-8 million in the medium term, which does not have a domestic industry, and which is the most indebted country in the world in terms of debt per capita.

It's funny how you try to equate yourself with Sweden and Finland. Greece is a de facto bankrupt country as both demographically and economily, and is currently occupied by US troops, so that has no function other than being a barrier, has not accomplished anything on its own without hiding under the skirts of the French, Russians or the British throughout history.

We are currently negotiating our reservations directly with Sweden and Finland. Next week, there will be a four-way meeting with the participation of the NATO secretary general.

In the problem we have with you, our addressee is the USA. Just as in the situation in Syria, our interlocutor is Russia at there.
 
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In 1980, at the peak of the Cold War, you could not even cough without the permission of the US and the USSR, let alone say no to the RE-ACCESSION of Greece to the military wing of NATO and not το the ENALRGEMENT as you deliberately wrote.
Beyond that, do not repeat the same, actually now speaking French Germans and generally the majority of NATO countries about the Turkish blackmail games. It does not matter, they learn you from the first hand how unreliable allies you are. Greece, of course, never considered you as ally.
Mavi Vatan is happening. The Americans will let us take all if they want us as allies or we will switch sides. its up to them to decide. Greece or Turkiye. And you cannot blame the Anglos for choosing Turks over you Greeks, you guys have nothing to offer the alliance.
 
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