France invoked article 42.7 of the Lisbon treaty

[Umair Nawaz]

The Lisbon treaty is about EU members.EU members are not obliged to help everyone out there but they have to help other EU members by treaty.

Not that a treaty should make a EU member help another one after a tragedy like Paris,it is also a moral duty.

If by the treaty, NATO gets involved in which turkey is a full member then it would be selfishness to say the least since the ''moral duty'' wasnt invoked then Turkey was bombed not just onces but twice, and the culprits were said to be the same people or Kurds whom America supports. To be honest it only looks like clash of interests rather then ''moral duty'' or treaty.

Key word here is NATO and interests as well as intent.

 

[bsruzm]

What happend to NATO's article 5?

 

[flamer84]

These treaties, solidarity messages, etc... are nice things.

It all comes down to the ground operation against ISIS.....


Nope, it means more meetings and solidarity messages.

Ground operations should be left to the neighbouring countries or the Syrians themselves.

I see alot of chest tumping in here from some members about how great their military is but can you imagine what it would be like if France had ISIS as its direct southern neighbour ? It surely wouldn't stand at the border looking dumb ! Can you imagine if Syria would have been France's neighbour and they would have shot down a French jet ? Now....these things surely demand a ground operation from a truly powerfull military.

 

[Jacob Martin]

When turks were bombed i didnt saw anyone talking abt this.......

Why r western European lives more important then Eastern European ones?

Erdogan has done everything possible to strengthen the hands of Daesh. He has launched a vicious campaign against the Kurds who are in the frontline against Daesh fighters. What sympathy do you expect for a government like that?

 

[Vergennes]

The Lisbon treaty is about EU members.EU members are not obliged to help everyone out there but they have to help other EU members by treaty.

Not that a treaty should make a EU member help another one after a tragedy like Paris,it is also a moral duty.

France asked for help,and the United Europe answered YES ! UE members are behind us and will do everything they can to help.

Let them bark,they do not know what united means.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

We know very well what yr ''united'' means to be honest and Frank Raynald would like to disagree with u.

We already had defeated yr unity in the 11-12 century of Crusades.

Dont forget that, and dont teach us abt yr fragile concepts of unity.

 

[Jacob Martin]

We already had defeated yr unity in the 11-12 century of Crusades.

And there we go again....a thousand years later you guys are still crowing over what happened then. No wonder nothing good comes out of it.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

And there we go again....a thousand years later you guys are still crowing over what happened then. No wonder nothing good comes out of it.

none of yr business.

 

[flamer84]

We know very well what yr ''united'' means to be honest and Frank Reynald would like to disagree with u.

We already had defeated yr unity in the 11-12 century of Crusades.

That's PDF for you.....in a thread about EU response after France's demand for unity against terrorism,members around here come barking about the crusades

 

[-SINAN-]

Ground operations should be left to the neighbouring countries or the Syrians themselves.

I see alot of chest tumping in here from some members about how great their military is but can you imagine what it would be like if France had ISIS as its direct southern neighbour ? It surely wouldn't stand at the border looking dumb ! Can you imagine if Syria would have been France's neighbour and they would have shot down a French jet ? Now....these things surely demand a ground operation from a truly powerfull military.

We have a saying goes like "If my aunt had a mustache, she would be my uncle"....

Neighbouring countries don't want to any risks by themselves and they are not going to to anything by themselves.

France asked for help,and the United Europe answered YES ! UE members are behind us and will do everything they can to help.

Let them bark,they do not know what united means.

Hmm... let me guess.... Group Hug ?

 

[flamer84]

Hmm... let me guess.... Group Hug ?

Now,now,if you wouldn't care so much you wouldn't whine all day "why didn't they act like this when we were hit ?"

 

[Levina]

Nope, it means more meetings and solidarity messages.

It means this

 

[Umair Nawaz]

That's PDF for you.....in a thread about EU response after France's demand for unity against terrorism,members around here come barking about the crusades

i understand that it was an off topic comment hence i didnt quote the french guy directly in my post but ensured its posted directly after his comment. It was response to his gibe of ''unity'' mocking at us. I gave him French Frank Raynald's example for a reason.

Look i do fel sorry for them, but what is said and done dont seem to be in line of any ''moral duty'' as u said.

 

[Point_4590]

I am up for joint bombing and military intervention on the lines of alied WW 2 by every leading military as a coalition it should also include Israel,Egypt and India pool their resources.

If it wasn't for Russian intervention in Syria India would've joined France in air strikes.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

I am up for joint bombing and military intervention on the lines of alied WW 2 by every leading military as a coalition it should also include Israel,Egypt and India pool their resources.

If it wasn't for Russian intervention in Syria India would've joined France in air strikes.

no u wouldnt.