Former IAF Chief accepts MKI not enough to fight PAF

[Windjammer]

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Classic case of saving grace . Not only the Indian airforce is looking for an excuse to get desired funds which directly provide kickbacks, not taking about what Jf 17 rendered lol, but also to appeal to the global order that they are "fully capable" of taking on china if get their hands on western wares.

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My dear Young Pak,

We have all seen how India 'took on' China in the infamous stand-off... the flying kick, we all remember.

India is only a challenger to China Might on paper.... on TV, on defence publications/fora, films or perhaps some naval excercises.

JF-17 II = Rafael

In the western diplomatic circles it is known that Indians have the 'superpower syndrome'. So they usually utter those soundbites to pump their egos and sell them military hardware. And talk about UNSC membership.

Remember Pres. Bush Jr. saying in New Dheli... 'America will help India become a superpower'.

If India sends troops to AF only then can it be seen as great power.

I am amazed how little Iron Falcon JF-17 changed the power balance in Asia.

You keep doing good.

Ciao,

Mangus

 

[Pied Piper]

Salaam!
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201903141073220144-india-pakistan-rafale-deal/
Ex-IAF Chief: Rafales Could Have Downed Half of Pakistan's F-16s in Dogfight
09:44 14.03.2019(updated 10:02 14.03.2019)
The remarks come amid claims by Indian opposition leaders about major corruption in the $8.7 billion deal for the purchase of 36 Rafale fighters for the Indian Air Force (IAF) that was signed in 2016 and that Prime Minister Modi claimed left the IAF high and dry during the confrontation with Pakistan in late February.

India’s former Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal A. Y. Tipnis has suggested that if India had had a promised fleet of French Rafale fighters at its disposal, they could have helped the Indian Air Force (IAF) destroy at least half of the Pakistani warplanes encountered during last month’s dogfight.

“The aim of the 24 Pakistan jets was to attack the Srinagar, Awantipora base. If India had had Rafale at that time, the IAF would have destroyed at least 12 of them. Rafale will boost the morale of the IAF,” AY Tipnis told a New Delhi security summit on Wednesday.

READ MORE: India Reveals How its Su-30 'Defeated' F-16's Missile in Dogfight With Pakistan

He referred to the February 27 air battle that erupted between India and Pakistan in the aftermath of a 14 February suicide attack on an Indian paramilitary convoy which left at least 40 soldiers dead and prompted an Indian air raid on alleged terrorist targets in the Pakistan-controlled region of Kashmir. During the dogfight, the IAF downed a Pakistan Air Force F-16 fighter jet but lost a MiG-21 Bison warplane.

A. Y. Tipnis’s remarks come as New Delhi locks horns with the opposition over alleged corruption in the $8.7 billion deal for the purchase of 36 fighter jet for the Indian Air Force that was signed in government-to-government negotiations in 2016.

Earlier this week, the Indian government claimed that the leaking of documents pertaining to the Rafale deal, published by the newspaper The Hindu, not only breached the terms of the agreement with the vendor but also compromised national security.

READ MORE: 'Pause is One of the Positive Outcomes in India-Pakistan Tensions' – Analyst

The government alleged that the documents attached in the review petition by the plaintiff and subsequently accessed and published by media outlets, including The Hindu, contained sensitive information, including related to the aircraft's combat capability.

Earlier, the court issued the government a certificate of exoneration in response to several petitions seeking a court-monitored probe into the purchase of the Rafale jets, alleging that the contract was awarded to Dassault Aviation in exchange for an agreement to award the offset contracts to certain industry players allegedly favoured by Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

READ MORE: Aerial Clash With Pakistan Has Exposed Chinks in India's Armour — Editor

© AFP 2018/ MIGUEL MEDINA
Indian Court Handed 'Secret' Docs on Rafale Deal, Says They're Stolen - Govt.
The developments came after Modi accused the opposition of delaying the induction of Rafale fighters into the IAF by creating unnecessary controversy over the deal, while opposition leader Rahul Gandhi said it was Modi who had delayed the induction for the benefit of his personal business associates.


The accusation followed Modi's claims that the National Congress party’s opposition to the 36-aircraft deal with France had led to a delay in delivery of the Rafale jets that left the IAF high and dry during the dogfight with Pakistan.

 

[Baby Leone]

"could have"

if he would be in some civilized country he would have committed suicide by now but he should thank that he born and raised in india as indian

 

[Pied Piper]

IAF chief has no shame....what is he indirectly suggesting that the the Su-30 MKI is not on par? The IAF has some of the most modern sophisticated aircraft aircraft in its inventory... 270+ Su-30 MKI alone?

 

[Sabretooth]

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH................tusssssssss! and that is the end of IAF

 

[untitled]

They would not have been even buying Rafales if they had had been able to get more Mirage 2000s

 

[Comet]

IAF chief has no shame....what is he indirectly suggesting that the the Su-30 MKI is not on par? The IAF has some of the most modern sophisticated aircraft aircraft in its inventory... 270+ Su-30 MKI alone?

A valid point. Su-30 MKI is a very capable aircraft and is a mainstream fighter for many countries. Suggesting that Rafale is better than Su-30 is pretty lame for an Airforce chief. Talk about raising motivation for their Airmen & nation

 

[thunderr]

Hire few pilots from Europe too , yours have no balls to tolerate the wrath of our pilots.

 

[Signalian]

So India’s former Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal A. Y. Tipnis admits that current fleet of IAF is worthless in front of PAF, only Rafale will put up a fight.

 

[PradoTLC]

funny they said the same thing when the Su-30s were introduced....

 

[Windjammer]

Why not buy more MiG-21s, since the Indians claim it shot down an F-16.
In hindsight he is admitting that current IAF inventory is pretty useless against the PAF as the IAF decisively got it's A$$ whipped.

 

[alee92nawaz]

Salaam!
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201903141073220144-india-pakistan-rafale-deal/
Ex-IAF Chief: Rafales Could Have Downed Half of Pakistan's F-16s in Dogfight
09:44 14.03.2019(updated 10:02 14.03.2019)
The remarks come amid claims by Indian opposition leaders about major corruption in the $8.7 billion deal for the purchase of 36 Rafale fighters for the Indian Air Force (IAF) that was signed in 2016 and that Prime Minister Modi claimed left the IAF high and dry during the confrontation with Pakistan in late February.

India’s former Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal A. Y. Tipnis has suggested that if India had had a promised fleet of French Rafale fighters at its disposal, they could have helped the Indian Air Force (IAF) destroy at least half of the Pakistani warplanes encountered during last month’s dogfight.

“The aim of the 24 Pakistan jets was to attack the Srinagar, Awantipora base. If India had had Rafale at that time, the IAF would have destroyed at least 12 of them. Rafale will boost the morale of the IAF,” AY Tipnis told a New Delhi security summit on Wednesday.

READ MORE: India Reveals How its Su-30 'Defeated' F-16's Missile in Dogfight With Pakistan

He referred to the February 27 air battle that erupted between India and Pakistan in the aftermath of a 14 February suicide attack on an Indian paramilitary convoy which left at least 40 soldiers dead and prompted an Indian air raid on alleged terrorist targets in the Pakistan-controlled region of Kashmir. During the dogfight, the IAF downed a Pakistan Air Force F-16 fighter jet but lost a MiG-21 Bison warplane.

A. Y. Tipnis’s remarks come as New Delhi locks horns with the opposition over alleged corruption in the $8.7 billion deal for the purchase of 36 fighter jet for the Indian Air Force that was signed in government-to-government negotiations in 2016.

Earlier this week, the Indian government claimed that the leaking of documents pertaining to the Rafale deal, published by the newspaper The Hindu, not only breached the terms of the agreement with the vendor but also compromised national security.

READ MORE: 'Pause is One of the Positive Outcomes in India-Pakistan Tensions' – Analyst

The government alleged that the documents attached in the review petition by the plaintiff and subsequently accessed and published by media outlets, including The Hindu, contained sensitive information, including related to the aircraft's combat capability.

Earlier, the court issued the government a certificate of exoneration in response to several petitions seeking a court-monitored probe into the purchase of the Rafale jets, alleging that the contract was awarded to Dassault Aviation in exchange for an agreement to award the offset contracts to certain industry players allegedly favoured by Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

READ MORE: Aerial Clash With Pakistan Has Exposed Chinks in India's Armour — Editor

© AFP 2018/ MIGUEL MEDINA
Indian Court Handed 'Secret' Docs on Rafale Deal, Says They're Stolen - Govt.
The developments came after Modi accused the opposition of delaying the induction of Rafale fighters into the IAF by creating unnecessary controversy over the deal, while opposition leader Rahul Gandhi said it was Modi who had delayed the induction for the benefit of his personal business associates.


The accusation followed Modi's claims that the National Congress party’s opposition to the 36-aircraft deal with France had led to a delay in delivery of the Rafale jets that left the IAF high and dry during the dogfight with Pakistan.

Next time : Our F 22 raptors would have destroyed pakistan at once

 

[Wow]

 

[Leviza]

All these statements are actually their own way accepting JF-17 abilities
There are too many surprises for India in our JF-17 and they will only understand them with the time and foolish decisions