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Munter ascribes frayed ties to ‘Pakistan fatigue’
By Shahbaz Rana
Published: January 24, 2017
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Cameron Munter. PHOTO: FILE

SWITZERLAND / DAVOS: Relations between Pakistan and the United States have been frayed by ‘fatigue’ for the past two years and the only way to repair the ties is to have success on the ground and work on people-to-people contacts, says a former American ambassador to Pakistan.

After a period of great commitment and great effort on the American side to work not only on counterterrorism but also in the development of Pakistan by building social capital and the country’s relations with its neighbours, there is a feeling that many of these things did not work, Cameron Munter told The Express Tribune in an exclusive interview on the sidelines of the annual World Economic Forum.

Munter described this state as ‘Pakistan fatigue’ in the American circles.

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“Over the last couple of years, there has been [a perception] in Washington what we call ‘Pakistan fatigue’,” he added.

Munter, who served as the US ambassador in Islamabad between 2010 and 2012, is currently President of the East West Institute (EWI) – one of the largest independent think tanks working for conflict resolution.

Negativity aside, Munter was upbeat Pakistan could repair ties with the US by demonstrating successes in the areas that mattered to both countries.

Munter acknowledged his time as ambassador in Pakistan was very difficult. “[There were] many … good things that people wanted to do, but could not,” he said. “Following this period of more modest expectations, what we are hearing today from Raheel Sharif is the possibility that there could be an upsurge in ties.”

Munter spoke to The Express Tribune after attending a talk by former army chief General (retd) Raheel Sharif at the Pakistan Breakfast, organised by the Pathfinder Group.

Raheel narrated successes achieved by the country in the wake of Pakistan Army’s counterterrorism operations and sacrifices rendered by the Pakistani nation. He also spoke about the possibility of forging good relations with all neighbours, including India, “with dignity and honour”. He advised Pakistan to maintain a “fine balance in its relations with all global powers”.

“Perhaps with the new administration in Washington, perhaps with a fresh look, and perhaps with a focus on economics,” both the US and Pakistan can have good relations in future, said Munter.

He said there was a possibility that America could contribute to Pakistan’s success and that they could do so in economics. “I am cautiously optimistic, but it is going to take a change in mood in the US away from Pakistan fatigue,” said Munter.

Echoing Raheel’s remarks, he said the best way for this happen was to have successes on ground. “Perhaps this will demonstrate to the US that there is a common cause and they can do things together, especially in business and commerce,” he added.

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Commenting on the US Office of Inspector-General’s report on the Obama administration’s inability to achieve its goals attached with the Kerry-Lugar aid because of conflicting interests of the USAID and the US State Department, Munter said: “I am a little more sceptical about the possibilities of assistance … I am much more optimistic about the possibilities of private sector development.”

“Whatever the intents and whatever the past, I would look at the future much as General Raheel Sharif does,” he said. “Private sector development does not only mean business, but also university-to-university cooperation and NGO-to-NGO cooperation.”

He said the government-to-government assistance should be put behind and focus should now be on businesses and institutions and “the kind of things the people of Pakistan and the people of American do the best”.

About the possibility of a Free-Trade Agreement, Munter said there was a real perception that the security situation in Pakistan was so difficult that got in the way of many good projects.

He said there were many institutions in the US that were still very apprehensive about going to Pakistan because of Pakistan’s reputation.

With achievements on the terrorism front, a lot of these things can be part of the past. As these trends work in the direction of security, a sense of fairness and openness, countering corruption, speaking honestly about corruption, give a direction to future Pakistan-US businesses and institutions.

Pakistan, he said had “wonderful people and … a great future”.

“I just hope Pakistan and America can get back to the kind of relationship where they should be … Friends as they have been in the past and partners as they should be in the future.”

Published in The Express Tribune, January 24th, 2017.
 
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Ya let's be friends America. With all the backstabbing, past sanctions, present sanctions, negative comments in the media, offering Super F-16's to our enemy, killing our innocent people with drone strikes, and threatening to bomb Pakistan back to the stone age.

F**k off and get lost already! With friends like you who needs enemies!
 
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They want to lick our balls because of CPEC. Pakistan is moving on so America go and play with India.
Fact is America wants India to counter chains and India only sees Pakistan as a threat.
 
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They want to lick our balls because of CPEC. Pakistan is moving on so America go and play with India.
Fact is America wants India to counter chains and India only sees Pakistan as a threat.
There are few sane voices in USA as well but when they got in power they can't change the policies specially regarding with Muslim countries " There is no good desires " make Muslim countries shaves or terminate like Palstine Iraq Libya Syria Afghanistan and few African countries. Pakistan playing well with them since few years.
 
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Ya let's be friends America. With all the backstabbing, past sanctions, present sanctions, negative comments in the media, offering Super F-16's to our enemy, killing our innocent people with drone strikes, and threatening to bomb Pakistan back to the stone age.

F**k off and get lost already! With friends like you who needs enemies!
Things do not work like that at state-to-state engagement level, my friend. Want to become another Venezuela or North Korea?

We cannot just backside US in our geopolitical, diplomatic, military and economic calculus because US is the most powerful country in the world and has a significant say and stakes in global developments of which Pakistan is part of. This is an era of globalization! Not isolation.

Raheel Sharif really gets it; we want people like him to represent out country in diplomatic matters.

You may also have heard the proverb: tali do haath se bajti hai

That proverb tells us that relations turn sour when both are at fault. We tend to assume that US is some evil entity that wants to destroy us. It is not like that at all. If US really wanted to harm Pakistan, it would have done that long time ago or found an excuse for this objective much earlier. We should try to decipher where we went wrong during the course of our relations with the US. The element of mistrust should be addressed because it exists on both sides.

Another thing that should be understood that China doesn't desires confrontation with US either; China's official foreign policy is grounded in "win-win" philosophy. China just wants to secure its interests in the region and wants Americans to be on-board. So don't get too excited about CPEC and it being a source of division at global stage; it won't work like this. We need to get out of this Cold War mentality and tell Americans in plain words that they should readjust their priorities for this region.
 
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Munter is saying basically what Vali Nasr said in his book. Pakistan does not conform to the US playbook in anyway. Not a world power, yet too strong to bully.

I don't foresee good relations with the US (I want those) in the short to mid term.
As far as investments go, he is a bit behind the times, I have dealt with US businessmen in a professional capacity and unlike a few years ago, there is now serious interest. Whether it translates to something concrete; yet to be seen, but we don't get the incredulous "are you kidding me" we used to get. Its more of a "keep an eye on them" mode now.

If Trump goes on an infrastructure binge, then prepare to see US firms ratching the same up overseas.
 
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Things do not work like that at state-to-state engagement level, my friend. Want to become another Venezuela or North Korea?

We cannot just backside US in our geopolitical, diplomatic, military and economic calculus because US is the most powerful country in the world and has a significant say and stakes in global developments of which Pakistan is part of. This is an era of globalization! Not isolation.

Raheel Sharif really gets it; we want people like him to represent out country in diplomatic matters.

You may also have heard the proverb: tali do haath se bajti hai

That proverb tells us that relations turn sour when both are at fault. We tend to assume that US is some evil entity that wants to destroy us. It is not like that at all. If US really wanted to harm Pakistan, it would have done that long time ago or found an excuse for this objective much earlier. We should try to decipher where we went wrong during the course of our relations with the US. The element of mistrust should be addressed because it exists on both sides.

Another thing that should be understood that China doesn't desires confrontation with US either; China's official foreign policy is grounded in "win-win" philosophy. China just wants to secure its interests in the region and wants Americans to be on-board. So don't get too excited about CPEC and it being a source of division at global stage; it won't work like this. We need to get out of this Cold War mentality and tell Americans in plain words that they should readjust their priorities for this region.

USA have made clear their position on Pakistan, we are an enemy state. Pakistan is wasting time with USA we should have followed the Iranians by keeping the Yanks out. USA is slowly being sidelined around the world and only has ties by threatening to bomb countries to stone age. USA is no longer the most powerful country economically, China is. Militarily it is matched by Russia and China by MAD and it is relegated to threatening and bombing small third world countries.
 
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USA have made clear their position on Pakistan, we are an enemy state.
My friend,

When did this happen?

Unless US officially declares Pakistan an enemy state and makes appropriate arrangements for it, Pakistan is not the enemy.

Pakistan is wasting time with USA we should have followed the Iranians by keeping the Yanks out.
Iran is trying to make amends with the US actually. They struck a deal with the Americans on nuclear issue and they have also requested Trump administration to honor it.

USA is slowly being sidelined around the world and only has ties by threatening to bomb countries to stone age.
I am not sure how you are getting this impression. US will never be irrelevant in the affairs of the world because it is a significant contributor to economy, culture and progress around the world.

USA is no longer the most powerful country economically, China is. Militarily it is matched by Russia and China by MAD and it is relegated to threatening and bombing small third world countries.
American economy has highest GDP and it produces DEMAND, my friend. A powerful hint there. Without American investment, Chinese economy looses its value.

Russia and China are no where close to the US in the matters of military capability aside from the nuclear calculus. And we don't know if nuclear calculus will remain relevant in the future or not. Humans are inventing new things with passage of time. There may come a time when nuclear weapons will be obsolete. Keep your fingers crossed.

Now, power is not just about nuclear weapons, it is a term with much broader scope and meaning.

Try to understand why US is the most powerful country in the world. Take a look at the scale of its global commitments and contributions. They will tell you.
 
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Ya let's be friends America. With all the backstabbing, past sanctions, present sanctions, negative comments in the media, offering Super F-16's to our enemy, killing our innocent people with drone strikes, and threatening to bomb Pakistan back to the stone age.

F**k off and get lost already! With friends like you who needs enemies!
How about translating that hatred for US with action ? And leaving the country for starters ?
 
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Great words by ambassador certainly a man of careful words and selected sentiments

Such wisdom comes from some level of experience in Politics

Hard for drivers or servers or real estate brokers to know diplomacy
 
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Ya let's be friends America. With all the backstabbing, past sanctions, present sanctions, negative comments in the media, offering Super F-16's to our enemy, killing our innocent people with drone strikes, and threatening to bomb Pakistan back to the stone age.

F**k off and get lost already! With friends like you who needs enemies!
you do know you are in murica right? immigration might just pay you a visit.
 
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We want good relations with US too

Not good. Just normal. Good with the US means bad.

Munter is saying basically what Vali Nasr said in his book. Pakistan does not conform to the US playbook in anyway. Not a world power, yet too strong to bully.

I don't foresee good relations with the US (I want those) in the short to mid term.
As far as investments go, he is a bit behind the times, I have dealt with US businessmen in a professional capacity and unlike a few years ago, there is now serious interest. Whether it translates to something concrete; yet to be seen, but we don't get the incredulous "are you kidding me" we used to get. Its more of a "keep an eye on them" mode now.

If Trump goes on an infrastructure binge, then prepare to see US firms ratching the same up overseas.

Couldn't have said it any better. Pakistan and the US won't get along because we are opposite poles. Our interests and thoughts clash on all levels. It is good to normalize relations instead of despising and distrusting each other. However, good relations are highly unlikely.
 
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It's it Pakistan's diplomatic failure that she has very few friends globally?

The biggest question is what will be the future implication for Pakistan if it's relation with the sole super power goes southward further.
 
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