Forget Gwadar, China has Karachi

[Dillinger]

@Secur From 4:25 onward in that video- American forces preventing PA troops from entering Jacobabad airfield and later he provides info on Pasni airbase being used similarly, only 2 PAF liaison officers were allowed on-base.

Then why did the Americans vacate the base, my dear? You know I can't access youtube that too on a mobile

That you are, because your knowledge will pale if we start talking about China

How long can you arm twist someone, between a belligerent and bellicose populace which despises them and the pressure on GOP, obvio they evacuated BUT for ten years they stayed there operating drones which operated on Pak territory. I've provided the timeline for that occupation, a timeline confirmed by Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, Chief of the Air Staff, Pakistan Air Force.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/centra...gwadar-china-has-karachi-9.html#ixzz2PiGMRFST

Are you sure about that bit brother, you may be surprised on that count.

 

[Secur]

@Dillinger Well they were leased that base by GOP back then, now their stopping PA from entering is very strange because they vacated the base very soon after being given deadline ...

They tried to stop them but did the PA turn back?

 

[theone-neo]

is pakistan cant handle his own port.. why ?? is bcz of financial crises or they do want their port

 

[Dillinger]

@Secur Obvio they were leased, WHY WERE THEY LEASED, WHICH NUCLEAR NATION HANDS OVER ITS BASES TO ANY OTHER NATION FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER? Dude the bases were handed back in 2011, these incidents occurred under Mushy sahabs rule. BIG DIFFERENCE and yes PA turned back and formed an outer perimeter. Mushy sold you people off and yet he's lionized while your meek Zardaris and Kayanis got the US to back off after Salala. PA has its own redlines, American troops killing PA troops in cold blood was one of those redlines.

 

[My-Analogous]

Slowly Pakistan is loosing its lands, Trabal areas Pushtoon Nationalism, Balouchistan independence movement, Sindh anti Pashtun sentiment.

Gilgit and Baltistan want to rule their own lands and also want provincial autonomy. Now China has entered into the trap set by Uncle Sam to drain its resources and kill its economy.

This is a good news for India

Since China decided to take on NATO and USA who are hand in glow for the problems of Pakistan.


I would like India to sit and watch and do a defensive posture, as the cold war is getting under way in Pakistan.

Welcome China to Pakistan

Please do the same assessment about India also and yes we know currently India have more then 20 independent movement.

 

[Areesh]

inspite of all the help u got can u defeat india???i thought so..but seriously do u think theres going to be conflict between india and china??and do u think china dumps $75 billion dollar trade with india and its 8% growth rate and help pakistan in case of a war with india??china only have strategic interests..bluntly there just using pakistan .incase malacca is blocked they need gwadar .they dont have any love towards pakistan and we've seen it in previous indo pak wars.this time they'll not even involve indirectly.if really china loves pakistan and cares about ur people half of ur problems would be solved by now

China provided help. Your plans were shattered in 65 war. You got a serious beating in Kargil. You cry even after a decade over it. China doesn't need to dump anything since they are using Indian money to help us. Developing of Gawadar is not only good for China alone. It is good for Pakistan too. After all it is Pakistan's port. It is a relationship of mutual cooperation and it is working well for us. Every other day Indian statements of concern on Chinese cooperation are a testimony to success of our relations with China. Your trade hasn't help you in stopping China from helping us. Whether KKH or Gawadar or JFT. In all cases your money which you gloat about dind't help you. It is a hard fact buddy. Accept it.

 

[Srinivas]

Please do the same assessment about India also and yes we now currently India have more then 20 independent movement.

Yes India also supports from separatist movements but out of 20 lot of them died. The issue with Pakistan is there are some big powers playing there and each having their own interests.

 

[My-Analogous]

@Secur Obvio they were leased, WHY WERE THEY LEASED, WHICH NUCLEAR NATION HANDS OVER ITS BASES TO ANY OTHER NATION FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER? Dude the bases were handed back in 2011, these incidents occurred under Mushy sahabs rule. BIG DIFFERENCE and yes PA turned back and formed an outer perimeter. Mushy sold you people off and yet he's lionized while your meek Zardaris and Kayanis got the US to back off after Salala. PA has its own redlines, American troops killing PA troops in cold blood was one of those redlines.

Why not India try the same.

 

[neehar]

China provided help. Your plans were shattered in 65 war. You got a serious beating in Kargil. You cry even after a decade over it. China doesn't need to dump anything since they are using Indian money to help us. Developing of Gawadar is not only good for China alone. It is good for Pakistan too. After all it is Pakistan's port. It is a relationship of mutual cooperation and it is working well for us. Every other day Indian statements of concern on Chinese cooperation are a testimony to success of our relations with China. Your trade hasn't help you in stopping China from helping us. Whether KKH or Gawadar or JFT. In all cases your money which you gloat about dind't help you. It is a hard fact buddy. Accept it.

now thats really funny.heres what ur ppl say

Kargil War : In the eyes of an eminent Pakistani Journalist, Mr. Najam Sethi - YouTube
Pakistan lost all wars against india - YouTube
Pakistan lost ALL 4 wars against India : Mr. Najam Sethi - YouTube
pakistan lost all wars with india -**** intellectuals say - YouTube

 

[Dillinger]

Why not India try the same.

OH HELL NO! Your actions and their result have shown us the error of any such move, besides baniyas don't like to lend stuff, kanjoss parvriti ke log hain hum, we're like that only so what can we do. Did I tell you the story of how even Hitler was an Indian, a local tambi fellow ergo the mustache and the swastika.

Yaara you're welcome to such bases, hamne phantey nahi khane is tarah.

 

[Areesh]

now thats really funny

That's the truth that you aren't taught in your school.

In the 22-day war in 1965, for example, as schoolchildren we were taught that the Pakistani pilots were so scared of the tiny Gnat that they fled the moment they spotted one. That it was because the then army chief, General J.N. Chowdhary, was such a world-famous hot-shot in tank warfare that the Pakistani armour came unstuck at Khem Karan and other graveyards of the Patton. That Lahore and Sialkot were almost sure to be in our bag if the war had gone on a few more days.

SHEKHAR GUPTA - Indian Express

 

[neehar]

That's the truth that you aren't taught in your school.

and what were you taught??

SHEKHAR GUPTA - Indian Express

Kargil War : In the eyes of an eminent Pakistani Journalist, Mr. Najam Sethi - YouTube
Pakistan lost all wars against india - YouTube
Pakistan lost ALL 4 wars against India : Mr. Najam Sethi - YouTube
pakistan lost all wars with india -**** intellectuals say - YouTube

 

[Areesh]

Kargil War : In the eyes of an eminent Pakistani Journalist, Mr. Najam Sethi - YouTube
Pakistan lost all wars against india - YouTube
Pakistan lost ALL 4 wars against India : Mr. Najam Sethi - YouTube
pakistan lost all wars with india -**** intellectuals say - YouTube

Lol Najam Sethi.

 

[Dillinger]

That's the truth that you aren't taught in your school.



SHEKHAR GUPTA - Indian Express

So who was the COAS of Pakistan in 1965? Muhammad Musa, yes? GO read his book and see who lost according to him, "My version: India-Pakistan war, 1965". In case he's lying according to you..well then you've been blessed with a lot of traitors it seems.
@Secur yaara do you people not even read the official autobiographies of your great men?

 

[Areesh]

So who was the COAS of Pakistan in 1965? Muhammad Musa, yes? GO read his book and see who lost according to him, "My version: India-Pakistan war, 1965". In case he's lying according to you..well then you've been blessed with a lot of traitors it seems.

There were mistakes that we made in that war. No doubt about that. PAF had air superiority in that war and could have easily thrashed you guys even more. If PAF played its part in ground support after achieving air superiority, PA might have kicked you even more. But anyways it was no way an overwhelming victory. You guys just can accept that Chinese kicked you rare side but can't accept the same for PAkistanis. Ego ka masla banta hai tum Bharation kai liye.