For the naive and self-blinded....

[SarthakGanguly]

Nah,Ram mandir is an exception

Of course, of course But don't tell anybody
Wait, I did not say that, I am turning a blind eye as well...

You want Hindus to give up being Hindus if they wish to stay in India !!!

This is the most preposterous line I have read in a long time .

This is never going to happen, the rest will have to adjust. All what is being done is within the constitution.

I was so convincing?? @ExtraOdinary - I can do this too

 

[Ayush]

Of course, of course But don't tell anybody

we will do our work silently,while keeping @Dillinger confident of our secular credentials

 

[Android]

A secular thread hijacked by hindutvadis

 

[third eye]

I was so convincing?? @ExtraOdinary - I can do this too

I have to admit you had me flummoxed for a while.

 

[ExtraOdinary]

Of course, of course But don't tell anybody
Wait, I did not say that, I am turning a blind eye as well...


I was so convincing?? @ExtraOdinary - I can do this too

Why did you have to call a self blinded and naive person like me to a gathering of supra intellectuals . Some people still want to live in 2002 while others care about what's gonna happen in 2022. We have a choice between Feku, Retard and Nautankiwal, for me Feku trumps the other 2 anyday

 

[Dillinger]

I have to admit you had me flummoxed for a while.

Hindus will not stop being Hindus nor will Muslims or Christians give up their faith, no, me and @SarthakGanguly only dream of stripping said identity in the public sphere. And of course irrespective of whichever god or gods they believe in they will declare that there is one deity who truly does exist and reigns above the gods of men, a female deity, the goddess Bharat Mata. That's all we ask for, that you subsume your identity to the greater whole for the greater good. Worship Ram, Allah or Isa, no one shall stop you but be willing to lay down your life for Bharat.

Or else...boats+cannons aimed at said boats.

@Ayush Of course there will be a Ram temple, there is a Vatican and a Mecca and so there shall be a Ram temple serving as the holy site. Such an action is neither in defiance of secularism nor a breach of what we have conceived.

 

[bronxbull]

In other words, with no argument to offer as a counter, we are given dark and gloomy forecasts for something evil, sometthing undefined, of course, about to happen.





That probably explains their popularity and their vast numbers in that state.



Perhaps the only useful sentence in all this garbage.



Cf. the answer of the Spartans to the ambassador of Philip IV of Macedon, and his communicating of the threats made by his master to the Spartans:





There is a simple phrase which might sum up this hilarious passage above, incoherent and angry as it is.

Garbage in, garbage out.

with all due respect mr. shearer,your opinion doesn't matter.

Your views are already past their expiry date,the young people of india have much more clarity than socialist gas of the 60s.

And what is that basic lesson? How to raid restaurants & pubs during valentine's day and beat up people?



Oh the irony! Caste system and caste based discrimination & inequality is the creation of Hinduism itself, and many people left Hinduism and converted to other religions just to save themselves from the caste based extreme discrimination & inequality, this is happening even today in many places. Are you saying that Hindutva will embrace & unite all Hindus including those who are still considered untouchables under its doctrines? Check again, caste based discrimination is more prevalent specifically in VHP strongholds.



And what is that right choice? How VHP is adding value to India?

Hindutva doesn't endorse caste discrimination of any kind and there is enough history on who converted and why.

By your logic all the scheduled castes should have converted but they haven't.not even today.

The ones who converted are the kind of rats who leave the ship when it is sinking but when the ship doesn't really sink and is back on track,these rats give flimsy backdated excuses for the actions of their forefathers.

I know the reality of rural india much better some random bangali dude reading mainstream media.

so please,try sitting and justifying the sheer failure of intellectuals in bengal instead of trying to give me dialogue baazi.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

A secular thread hijacked by hindutvadis

Thanks. I got my creds to protect you see

 

[dray]

Hindutva doesn't endorse caste discrimination of any kind and there is enough history on who converted and why.

Talk about reality, not theories, in practice Hinduism has some really disgusting kinds of discrimination in the name of caste.

By your logic all the scheduled castes should have converted but they haven't.not even today.

You understand nothing about logic. By your logic if British rule was really oppressive then all Indians would have stood up against it, didn't happen, na?

The ones who converted are the kind of rats who leave the ship when it is sinking but when the ship doesn't really sink and is back on track,these rats give flimsy backdated excuses for the actions of their forefathers.

There could be many reasons for conversions, one of the many reasons is mistreatment of the lower caste Hindus by the upper caste Hindus, that's a fact.

And if you really had minimum sense of decency & respect left in you, then you wouldn't have called the converts rats. Even if someone has converted on his own by loving another religion, it is his personal preference which should be respected, and instead of finding faults in the converts, we should introspect if the fault is within us.

I know the reality of rural india much better some random bangali dude reading mainstream media.
so please,try sitting and justifying the sheer failure of intellectuals in bengal instead of trying to give me dialogue baazi.

You know nothing about rural India, you are living in the world of delusions.

And I am again advising you to not attack ethnicity here, I very well understand that you are a racist bigot, but things will get really dirty if everybody starts attacking each other for being Bengali, Tamil, Malayali, Bihari, Hariyanbhi, Assamese, etc. and that too in a Pakistani forum. Sorry to say, but people like you are the biggest liability of my country.

 

[Dillinger]

Talk about reality, not theories, in practice Hinduism has some really disgusting kinds of discrimination in the name of caste.


You understand nothing about logic. By your logic if British rule was really oppressive then all Indians would have stood up against it, didn't happen, na?


There could be many reasons for conversions, one of the many reasons is mistreatment of the lower caste Hindus by the upper caste Hindus, that's a fact.

And if you really had minimum sense of decency & respect left in you, then you wouldn't have called the converts rats. Even if someone has converted on his own by loving another religion, it is his personal preference which should be respected, and instead of finding faults in the converts, we should introspect if the fault is within us.



You know nothing about rural India, you are living in the world of delusions.

And I am again advising you to not attack ethnicity here, I very well understand that you are a racist bigot, but things will get really dirty if everybody starts attacking each other for being Bengali, Tamil, Malayali, Bihari, Hariyanbhi, Assamese, etc. and that too in a Pakistani forum. Sorry to say, but people like you are the biggest liability of my country.

Ghodar deem!

 

[dray]

Ghodar deem!

Ki holo?

I am dealing with a bull bullishly.

 

[Dillinger]

Ki holo?

I am dealing with a bull bullishly.

Just felt like using the phrase.

 

[Dillinger]

we will do our work silently,while keeping @Dillinger confident of our secular credentials

Child. Dillinger is the sort of guy who'll institute a Stalin-esque purge midway through, it'll be an icepick through your head, that's what you'll achieve. Don't worry though I'll have a statue erected in your honor in Bihar.

 

[bronxbull]

Talk about reality, not theories, in practice Hinduism has some really disgusting kinds of discrimination in the name of caste.


You understand nothing about logic. By your logic if British rule was really oppressive then all Indians would have stood up against it, didn't happen, na?


There could be many reasons for conversions, one of the many reasons is mistreatment of the lower caste Hindus by the upper caste Hindus, that's a fact.

And if you really had minimum sense of decency & respect left in you, then you wouldn't have called the converts rats. Even if someone has converted on his own by loving another religion, it is his personal preference which should be respected, and instead of finding faults in the converts, we should introspect if the fault is within us.



You know nothing about rural India, you are living in the world of delusions.

And I am again advising you to not attack ethnicity here, I very well understand that you are a racist bigot, but things will get really dirty if everybody starts attacking each other for being Bengali, Tamil, Malayali, Bihari, Hariyanbhi, Assamese, etc. and that too in a Pakistani forum. Sorry to say, but people like you are the biggest liability of my country.

you dont know anything about me,you can go ahead and make opinions about anyone and everyone.

it makes no difference.

 

[dray]

you dont know anything about me,you can go ahead and make opinions about anyone and everyone.

it makes no difference.

True, but aren't you doing the same?