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FLASH: ADMIRAL MULLEN

I checked the GEO site and didn't see anything. Could you provide a link, please?

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Good to have you back Sir! :cheers:

Here's the report from Xinhua:


September 16, 2008 20:31

Chairman of the U.S Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen is due to visit Islamabad later Tuesday following the row of recent cross-border raids, local media said.

The visit comes amid tensions between the two countries due to recent missiles strikes by U.S. drones, which killed scores of people.

Mullen will hold meeting with Pakistani Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani and Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani to discuss the security situation along the Pak-Afghan border, News Network International (NNI) news agency said.

Mullen warned earlier this month that the U.S forces will launch unilateral actions in the tribal regions against the al-Qaeda linked militants.

Source: Xinhua
 
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Some our "friends" on WAB were suggesting that air assault is called for, that nukes will be secured, that they know that US helicopters being repulsed is all stage managed, that islam deobandi, blah blah

Man they don't know shi'ite from shineola - but of course they pros, give me a break, masking bigotry behind "pros".

Ahh yes that bunch - again, ask them what is the long term goal in the GwoT, and how does a destabilized Pakistan (lets say with Nukes secured by the West) help in that context? How do recent actions help in preventing Pakistan's destabilization? Shortcuts and 'drive through' solutions and timetables.

Is the GWoT comprised of rolling around and creating one Iraq/Afghanistan after another?
 
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Is the GWoT comprised of rolling around and creating one Iraq/Afghanistan after another?

See, this cannot be policy - it's just too ad hoc, pulled it out of their a** - This is, I am neginning to suspect seriously, a political move in a election year, with an economy near panic.

Like magaicans, it's about distraction -- really, I'm coming to think this.

GWOT?? What credibility?? They live in their own world. I used the word "beserkers" for them - and this behaviour is symbolic of that characterization.
 
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Ahh yes that bunch - again, ask them what is the long term goal in the GwoT, and how does a destabilized Pakistan (lets say with Nukes secured by the West) help in that context? How do recent actions help in preventing Pakistan's destabilization? Shortcuts and 'drive through' solutions and timetables.

Is the GWoT comprised of rolling around and creating one Iraq/Afghanistan after another?

AM, do you really think they give a damn about Pakistans destabilization. Once they get the nukes, to hell with Pakistan, they wont raise an eye brow even if India launches a nuclear strike on Pakistan. The point is that we need to get out of this mis preception that US indeed wants to stabilize Pakistan. If that was the case, US would not have been sponsoring anti Pakistan elements, would not have given India a free hand in Afghanistan and would certainly not threat Pakistan of unilateral strikes. If anything the US cares about is our nukes, everything comes down to that. WOT is just a cover up, an excuse to launch attacks on other Nations. Seven years they couldnt do a squat and now they want to shift all blame on to Pakistan and make Pakistan their next scape goat. Havent we noticed how hot the topic of Pakistan is for every US canidate, even more hotter then Iran. And every leader(Obama,Hillary) talking about military action inside Pakistan. Bottom line is that we cant hide from it, its on us and we will have to face it, defend our territory, nukes.
 
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KABUL (Reuters) - U.S. defence chiefs visited Afghanistan and Pakistan on Tuesday amid growing fears that American-led forces are failing to crush a rising Taliban insurgency, and anger in Pakistan over U.S. cross-border raids.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates was in Kabul to meet Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who has condemned the killing of Afghan civilians by foreign troops hunting Taliban insurgents.

Karzai, however, backed last week's announcement that the United States would target militant havens in neighboring Pakistan. Such raids have triggered fury in Pakistan, with reports of civilian casualties and even of near-skirmishes between American and Pakistani troops.

Asked if Pakistani troops had been authorized to fire on U.S. soldiers if they staged more cross-border raids, Pakistan's new president, Asif Ali Zardari, told reporters in London: "I don't think there will be any more." He did not elaborate.

The top U.S. military officer, Admiral Mike Mullen, landed in Pakistan to meet Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani and the chief of army staff, General Ashfaq Kayani.

A senior U.S. military officer said: "The challenges posed by the safe havens in the Pakistan side of the border, in the border region, are a very serious challenge and he (Mullen) believes it to be a major security threat to coalition forces, to the future of Afghanistan and Pakistan for that matter.

"He regards it as an extremely complicated and difficult problem that has to be addressed."

Gates's visit came after a trip to Baghdad, where he handed over command of the war in Iraq to a new general charged with maintaining better security while U.S. troop numbers fall.

In Afghanistan, by contrast, the United States plans to send more troops to combat a resurgent, al Qaeda-backed Taliban. Violence this year is at its worst since the 2001 invasion by U.S.-led coalition forces, with some 3,000 people killed.

NATO's top commander in Afghanistan, U.S. Army Gen. David McKiernan, said as Gates flew in that he needed three brigades plus support units -- possibly around 15,000 troops -- in addition to other forces scheduled to arrive in coming months.

"We're in a pretty tough fight here ... and I think we're going to be here for a while, although I don't think the insurgency will ever win in Afghanistan," he told reporters traveling with Gates.

Some 33,000 U.S. personnel are among a total of nearly 71,000 foreign troops led by NATO and the American military.

CIVILIAN DEATHS

But Afghans have been angered by a spike in civilian deaths inflicted by international forces, and the Western-backed government has called for a review of foreign combat operations.

Nearly 1,500 Afghan civilians were killed in the first eight months of this year, many in attacks on schools, clinics and bazaars, the United Nations said on Tuesday.

The death toll, up 39 percent from the same period in 2007, includes 800 killings blamed on Taliban and other militants as well as 577 caused by Afghan forces and their U.S.-led allies.

Gates will be briefed on use of air power and see if more can be done to avoid civilian casualties, the Pentagon said.

But the Pentagon is worried that al Qaeda may be resurfacing in Afghanistan after losing ground in Iraq.

Mullen, chairman of the U.S. military's Joint Chiefs of Staff, said this month he was not convinced the United States was winning in Afghanistan, and that militant bases across the border in Pakistan would be targeted as a shift of strategy.

U.S. forces have launched missile strikes from unmanned drones and a raid in Pakistan by helicopter-borne U.S. commandos this month.

Pakistan's new government has committed itself to the U.S.-led campaign against Islamist militants, although it is deeply unpopular.

Pakistani planes bombed militant bases on Tuesday, killing 14 insurgents, while a suicide car-bomber attacked a security force camp killing three soldiers, military officials said.


But Islamabad objects to cross-border U.S. strikes and protested against the helicopter assault in South Waziristan this month. There have been five U.S. missile strikes in Pakistan in September, killing both militants and civilians.

A military spokesman, Major-General Athar Abbas, said that aggression across the border would be confronted: "If any incursion is made against our soldiers, our checkposts, then we reserve the right to defend them."

Pakistani security officials said on Monday that firing by Pakistani troops had forced two U.S. military helicopters to turn back to Afghanistan after they crossed into Pakistani territory. The U.S. and Pakistani militaries denied it.
 
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WASHINGTON (AFP) - Chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, Admiral Michael Mullen, arrived in Pakistan on an unannounced visit Tuesday to discuss operations underway on the Afghanistan frontier with Pakistan's leaders, the Pentagon said.

"He will meet with Prime Minister (Yousuf Raza) Gilani and General (Ashfaq) Kayani to discuss ongoing operations in the border region with Afghanistan," the office of the Joint Chiefs told AFP, without elaborating.

The visit comes against a backdrop of tension between the two allies. Islamabad has vowed to defend itself against violations of its air space and incursions by US forces in Afghanistan, after a series of missile strikes blamed on US-led coalition forces left 38 people dead in Pakistan.

The Pentagon on Monday denied that US-led coalition helicopters based in Afghanistan were fired on in Pakistan and forced to turn back.

The incident "did not happen," said Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman, adding that after studying the facts, a statement by a Pakistani security official "didn't appear to be accurate."

Earlier there were conflicting reports that shots were fired when US-led coalition helicopters based in Afghanistan neared the border with Pakistan.

The gunfire was said to have broken out late Sunday about 100 meters (yards) from the South Waziristan tribal area, where Al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters are believed to be sheltering. There were no casualties.

"The US-led coalition troops in helicopters came close to the border and they tried to sneak into Pakistan territory but shots were fired by Pakistani troops and the coalition troops retreated," a Pakistani security official said.

But Whitman said in Washington: "I can't find any mission that correlates to the reports I saw."

"I can't find any report about helicopters being fired upon," he added.

The incident was also denied by Pakistan army's chief military spokesman, Major General Athar Abbas. "These reports are not correct," he said.

US Defense Secretary Robert Gates, meanwhile, arrived Tuesday to the Afghan capital for talks with coalition force commanders and President Hamid Karzai amid increasing concern about the Taliban insurgency.

Recent alleged US incursions into the area that have raised alarm in Pakistan have been welcomed by Afghanistan, which has for years said that more attention should be paid to extremist sanctuaries across the border.
 
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They did not find any WMD in Irac... :)

This is pretty much a dumb action by the CIA/US elite forces n behalve of Bush... Do we have to send those buthered women and children to prove it? Let me put it simple. The "coalition of the willing" aka the invaders have bombed several weddings in Afghanistan and even when puppet Karzai was angered they still were telling that nothing had happened... Can we expect the truth now? No way.
 
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just saw a short video of Adm Mullen and his team meeting PM Gilani. CoAS Kiyani was also present and his facial expressions were not very encouraging.
 
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Some our "friends" on WAB were suggesting that air assault is called for, that nukes will be secured, that they know that US helicopters being repulsed is all stage managed, that islam deobandi, blah blah

Man they don't know shi'ite from shineola - but of course they pros, give me a break, masking bigotry behind "pros".

:) why you visit one-sided BS sites in the first place.
 
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just saw a short video of Adm Mullen and his team meeting PM Gilani. CoAS Kiyani was also present and his facial expressions were not very encouraging.

Reports said that Mullen had assured Kinyani of not attacking Pakistani areas.

Plus there are also news of systemise the working of US and Pakistani intellegence agencies.
 
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Some our "friends" on WAB were suggesting that air assault is called for, that nukes will be secured, that they know that US helicopters being repulsed is all stage managed, that islam deobandi, blah blah

Man they don't know shi'ite from shineola - but of course they pros, give me a break, masking bigotry behind "pros".

Take it with a pinch of salt, the site is crowded by hindutva trolls and the SA section remains unmoderated.

There's hardly any constructive or even balanced debate, all they do is discuss distruction of Pakistan while having little hard ons. :disagree:
 
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There's hardly any constructive or even balanced debate, all they do is discuss distruction of Pakistan while having little hard ons. :disagree:

I think some may have had premature ejac. lately ... :partay:


Oh boy, oh boy, yeah , the Yanks gonna do it ... :rofl:
 
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Lol AM...:rofl:

But for the record what happens in other fora remains there, its none of our business what they post there or how the forum is moderated.

Every forum has its jems and jewels, WAB has a few too...OoE, Deltacamelately, Shek, S-2, Zraver to name a few and I'll always keep track of them and read their posts. :smokin:
 
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Lol AM...:rofl:

But for the record what happens in other fora remains there, its none of our business what they post there or how the forum is moderated.

Every forum has its jems and jewels, WAB has a few too...OoE, Deltacamelately, Shek, S-2, Zraver to name a few and I'll always keep track of them and read their posts. :smokin:

Well I agree with that, though I didn't always agree with their opinions.

I suppose its hard to go against the flow, when you are inundated with a certain mindset ....

I'm more nationalistic now then I was before I joined the forum for example.
 
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Well the Hindutva *** kissing trolls is a given - but these others OoE, Deltacamelately, Shek, S-2, Zraver - I use to think that these people had a measure of honor in the sense that could help peole understand the issues better - I was absolutely disappointed that that for the most part, no tonly are they ignorant but also just a bunch of bigots.

Anyway - I don't think these need interaction, just can't believe Matt and Ira would let that happen to that board.
 
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