Five Sikh families leave for India

[lightoftruth]

@mujhaidind you're pretty bad in enacting a fanatic.

 

[kurup]

Just talk big! When will we see some action?

Those Bangladeshi Brothers might be around 10cr or so. No one can deport them. Even if someone tried we won't let that happen.

Action is already happening ....... are you asleep .

Bangladeshis being pushed out ,,,,,,,,,, Pakistani Sikhs coming in .

Just like the way BJP promised .

 

[MM_Haider]

it is quite sad that continuous flagrant violation and flouting the tenor of Jinnah's vision regarding minorities in Pakistan (11th August speech) by our law makers have made Pakistan to see this day. I am sorry my Sikh brothers for not providing equal opportunities and peace. May you live a happy life where you are heading. best wishes.

 

[mujhaidind]

Action is already happening ....... are you asleep .
Bangladeshis being pushed out ,,,,,,,,,, Pakistani Sikhs coming in .
Just like the way BJP promised .

How many out of 6-8 crores have been deported? maybe hundreds at max. Talk when lakhs or crores have been deported.

 

[Yogijaat]

it is quite sad that continuous flagrant violation and flouting the tenor of Jinnah's vision regarding minorities in Pakistan (11th August speech) by our law makers have made Pakistan to see this day. I am sorry my Sikh brothers for not providing equal opportunities and peace. May you live a happy life where you are heading. best wishes.

Jinnah wanted an islamic nation, you got one.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

Like 3-4 out of 50,000 thousands and bailed within a week
That's Muslim power.

No. Some are missing. That is true power. may be lying 10 feet below.

How many out of 6-8 crores have been deported? maybe hundreds at max. Talk when lakhs or crores have been deported.

Dont know about others but sooner or later you will face it.

 

[MM_Haider]

Jinnah wanted an islamic nation, you got one.

this debate will be off topic. Since you brought it up, please go through below Jinnah's statements to understand what kind of State Jinnah Wanted.

1: “….Religion should not be allowed to come into Politics….Religion is merely a matter between man and God”. [Jinnah, Address to the Central Legislative Assembly, 7 February 1935]
2 : “….in the name of Humanity, I care more for them [the Untouchables] than for Mussalmans. ” [Jinnah, Speaking about the Shudras or Untouchables, during his address at the All India Muslim League session at Delhi, 1934 ]

3 : “….I am NOT fighting for Muslims, believe me, when I demand Pakistan.” [Jinnah, Press Conference, 14 November 1946]

4 : “…. You are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place of worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed. That has nothing to do with the business of the State.” [Jinnah, Presidential address to the first Constituent Assembly of Pakistan, Karachi, 11 August 1947]

5 : “….no distinction between one community and another, no discrimination between one caste or creed and another. We are starting with this fundamental principle that we are all citizens and Equal citizens of One State.” [ Jinnah, Presidential Address to the first Constituent Assembly of Pakistan, 11 August 1947]

6 : “…. Now, I think we should keep that in front of us as our ideal, and you will find that in due course of time Hindus would cease to be Hindus and Muslims would cease to be Muslims, not in the religious sense because that is the personal faith of the individual, but in the political sense as citizens of the State “. [Jinnah, Presidential Address to the first Constituent Assembly of Pakistan, 11 August 1947]
7 : ” But make no mistake : Pakistan is NOT a theocracy or anything like it.” [ Jinnah, Message to the people of Australia, 19 February 1948 ]

Whenever Jinnah uses the terms “Islam” and “Islamic” with reference to Pakistan, they are by no means in the sense of a Shariah State. Instead of focusing on the apparent tenor, which more often than not remains subject to diverse interpretations, debate and dispute, Jinnah very wisely remains focused on the SPIRIT of Islamic teachings, which in essence is also the spirit of every single known revealed religion. Thus he succeeds in upholding the secular cause without sacrificing the elements of morality and universal appeal. This spirit, according to him comprises of three elements – Equality, Justice and Fairplay. Any state capable of providing these three to ALL its citizens, would be, for all practical purposes “Islamic” in nature. The following two references are worthy of consideration :

8 : ” The constitution of Pakistan has yet to be framed by the Pakistan Constituent Assembly…..Islam and its idealism have taught us democracy. It has taught Equality of men, Justice and Fairplay to ‘EVERYBODY’…..In any case Pakistan is NOT going to be a theocratic State – to be ruled by priests with a divine mission. We have many non-Muslims – Hindus, Christians and Parsis – but they are ALL Pakistanis. They will enjoy the SAME rights and privileges as any other citizens and will play their rightful part in the affairs of Pakistan.” [ Jinnah, February 1948.Talk on Pakistan broadcast to the people of USA]

9 : ” Why this feeling of nervousness that the future constitution of Pakistan is going to be in conflict with Shariat Laws ?……Islamic principles today are are as much applicable as they were 1300 years ago……Islam and its idealism have taught Equality, Justice and Fairplay to EVERYBODY.” [ Jinnah, 25 January 1948. Address to Bar Association Karachi ]

 

[kurup]

How many out of 6-8 crores have been deported? maybe hundreds at max. Talk when lakhs or crores have been deported.

You can't push out lakhs and crore in a day ...... it will be over a span of time .

They have already started the work ..... have patience ..... every single on of them will be thrown out .

Other than whining in this thread , what are you capable of ..... when can I see Nepal .

 

[Sugarcane]

Mosques are strictly banned for all non Muslims

Who told you that there is ban on non-Muslim entry in Mosques?

 

[Biplab Bijay]

this debate will be off topic. Since you brought it up, please go through below Jinnah's statements to understand what kind of State Jinnah Wanted.

1: “….Religion should not be allowed to come into Politics….Religion is merely a matter between man and God”. [Jinnah, Address to the Central Legislative Assembly, 7 February 1935]
2 : “….in the name of Humanity, I care more for them [the Untouchables] than for Mussalmans. ” [Jinnah, Speaking about the Shudras or Untouchables, during his address at the All India Muslim League session at Delhi, 1934 ]

3 : “….I am NOT fighting for Muslims, believe me, when I demand Pakistan.” [Jinnah, Press Conference, 14 November 1946]

4 : “…. You are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place of worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed. That has nothing to do with the business of the State.” [Jinnah, Presidential address to the first Constituent Assembly of Pakistan, Karachi, 11 August 1947]

5 : “….no distinction between one community and another, no discrimination between one caste or creed and another. We are starting with this fundamental principle that we are all citizens and Equal citizens of One State.” [ Jinnah, Presidential Address to the first Constituent Assembly of Pakistan, 11 August 1947]

6 : “…. Now, I think we should keep that in front of us as our ideal, and you will find that in due course of time Hindus would cease to be Hindus and Muslims would cease to be Muslims, not in the religious sense because that is the personal faith of the individual, but in the political sense as citizens of the State “. [Jinnah, Presidential Address to the first Constituent Assembly of Pakistan, 11 August 1947]
7 : ” But make no mistake : Pakistan is NOT a theocracy or anything like it.” [ Jinnah, Message to the people of Australia, 19 February 1948 ]

Whenever Jinnah uses the terms “Islam” and “Islamic” with reference to Pakistan, they are by no means in the sense of a Shariah State. Instead of focusing on the apparent tenor, which more often than not remains subject to diverse interpretations, debate and dispute, Jinnah very wisely remains focused on the SPIRIT of Islamic teachings, which in essence is also the spirit of every single known revealed religion. Thus he succeeds in upholding the secular cause without sacrificing the elements of morality and universal appeal. This spirit, according to him comprises of three elements – Equality, Justice and Fairplay. Any state capable of providing these three to ALL its citizens, would be, for all practical purposes “Islamic” in nature. The following two references are worthy of consideration :

8 : ” The constitution of Pakistan has yet to be framed by the Pakistan Constituent Assembly…..Islam and its idealism have taught us democracy. It has taught Equality of men, Justice and Fairplay to ‘EVERYBODY’…..In any case Pakistan is NOT going to be a theocratic State – to be ruled by priests with a divine mission. We have many non-Muslims – Hindus, Christians and Parsis – but they are ALL Pakistanis. They will enjoy the SAME rights and privileges as any other citizens and will play their rightful part in the affairs of Pakistan.” [ Jinnah, February 1948.Talk on Pakistan broadcast to the people of USA]

9 : ” Why this feeling of nervousness that the future constitution of Pakistan is going to be in conflict with Shariat Laws ?……Islamic principles today are are as much applicable as they were 1300 years ago……Islam and its idealism have taught Equality, Justice and Fairplay to EVERYBODY.” [ Jinnah, 25 January 1948. Address to Bar Association Karachi ]

See these are only statements by Him. I have a simple question that why Pakistan is created ? Can you explain it to me without using the word muslim/Islam etc ?

 

[mujhaidind]

You can't push out lakhs and crore in a day ...... it will be over a span of time .
They have already started the work ..... have patience ..... every single on of them will be thrown out .

Like enforcing an uniform civil code and scrapping article 370.

Such things will never happen. You can only dream about it.

 

[Albatross]

Who told you that there is ban on non-Muslim entry in Mosques?

Mosques are there to worship Allah and as non Muslims don't do that therez no reason for them to be there as tourism is not the purpose a mosque is built for and ban on foreigners in makkah is an example of that.
I think there should be only two exception to the above one if someone wants to study Islam and see Muslim culture and 2ndly to take shelter incase of natural disasters.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

Like enforcing an uniform civil code and scrapping article 370.

Such things will never happen. You can only dream about it.

It will happen.

 

[Sugarcane]

Mosques are there to worship Allah and as non Muslims don't do that therez no reason for them to be there as tourism is not the purpose a mosque is built for and ban on foreigners in makkah is an example of that.
I think there should be only two exception to the above one if someone wants to study Islam and see Muslim culture and 2ndly to take shelter incase of natural disasters.

Other than Macca there is no ban (by religion or by country's law) on non-Muslims to be in Mosque anywhere in world - but yeah if you are following some nut case mullah than sure, you can get fcukwas as per your wish.

 

[Yogijaat]

this debate will be off topic. Since you brought it up, please go through below Jinnah's statements to understand what kind of State Jinnah Wanted.

1: “….Religion should not be allowed to come into Politics….Religion is merely a matter between man and God”. [Jinnah, Address to the Central Legislative Assembly, 7 February 1935]
2 : “….in the name of Humanity, I care more for them [the Untouchables] than for Mussalmans. ” [Jinnah, Speaking about the Shudras or Untouchables, during his address at the All India Muslim League session at Delhi, 1934 ]

3 : “….I am NOT fighting for Muslims, believe me, when I demand Pakistan.” [Jinnah, Press Conference, 14 November 1946]

4 : “…. You are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place of worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed. That has nothing to do with the business of the State.” [Jinnah, Presidential address to the first Constituent Assembly of Pakistan, Karachi, 11 August 1947]

5 : “….no distinction between one community and another, no discrimination between one caste or creed and another. We are starting with this fundamental principle that we are all citizens and Equal citizens of One State.” [ Jinnah, Presidential Address to the first Constituent Assembly of Pakistan, 11 August 1947]

6 : “…. Now, I think we should keep that in front of us as our ideal, and you will find that in due course of time Hindus would cease to be Hindus and Muslims would cease to be Muslims, not in the religious sense because that is the personal faith of the individual, but in the political sense as citizens of the State “. [Jinnah, Presidential Address to the first Constituent Assembly of Pakistan, 11 August 1947]
7 : ” But make no mistake : Pakistan is NOT a theocracy or anything like it.” [ Jinnah, Message to the people of Australia, 19 February 1948 ]

Whenever Jinnah uses the terms “Islam” and “Islamic” with reference to Pakistan, they are by no means in the sense of a Shariah State. Instead of focusing on the apparent tenor, which more often than not remains subject to diverse interpretations, debate and dispute, Jinnah very wisely remains focused on the SPIRIT of Islamic teachings, which in essence is also the spirit of every single known revealed religion. Thus he succeeds in upholding the secular cause without sacrificing the elements of morality and universal appeal. This spirit, according to him comprises of three elements – Equality, Justice and Fairplay. Any state capable of providing these three to ALL its citizens, would be, for all practical purposes “Islamic” in nature. The following two references are worthy of consideration :

8 : ” The constitution of Pakistan has yet to be framed by the Pakistan Constituent Assembly…..Islam and its idealism have taught us democracy. It has taught Equality of men, Justice and Fairplay to ‘EVERYBODY’…..In any case Pakistan is NOT going to be a theocratic State – to be ruled by priests with a divine mission. We have many non-Muslims – Hindus, Christians and Parsis – but they are ALL Pakistanis. They will enjoy the SAME rights and privileges as any other citizens and will play their rightful part in the affairs of Pakistan.” [ Jinnah, February 1948.Talk on Pakistan broadcast to the people of USA]

9 : ” Why this feeling of nervousness that the future constitution of Pakistan is going to be in conflict with Shariat Laws ?……Islamic principles today are are as much applicable as they were 1300 years ago……Islam and its idealism have taught Equality, Justice and Fairplay to EVERYBODY.” [ Jinnah, 25 January 1948. Address to Bar Association Karachi ]

There is no pakistan without islam, that's the identity of paksitan and there is nothing wrong in accepting this fact. I am not saying there is something wrong with islamic republic that's the concern of muslims.