Five reasons Erdogan will win the Turkish referendum

[OldTwilight]

He's not a good guy I hope that in the upcoming referendum , result wouldn't be in his favor .. I think he's already shown what is future of Turkey would look like in his mind.
But that's Turkish people's decision and their country ...

Pray for his victory .... And don't interfere in Turkey internal affairs ....

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

wow so much insults this threads going to get closed.members have very low posting and trolling. very suspicous.
for godsake erdogan is not gonna do much he just playing double game.
muslims have truly become retards, get it through your thick skull if you dont have gold and silver currency and banned on usury imf rothschild central bank, then forget it.

iran does not have rothschild central bank. They only need to do, is mint coins even china does this and has it in circulation. Then banned usury. hey move towards international barter trade.

Reis Erdo'an is all against the international monetary order; hence, he kicked IMF out. But, nothing can be changed overnight since it wasn't built overnight at the first place. Moreover, Turkey, due to its geography, history etc., is linked to the outside world in a multi-faceted manner. Forcing systems on folks may backfire too!!! Only ~5% of the Iranian university students attend Juma Namaz, while in Turkey it's ~60%!!!! In my long association with a large number of Iranian folks I have never come across a single religious guy. Moreover, they go out of the way to make the point that they're dead against the Molla regime, symbolized by long Jubbe with bottomless Jep, and have nothing to do what they stand for. By the by, Iran has the most die-hard leftist folks in the Muslim world for a reason...

Turkey is going back to a caliphate style govt again, kudos to them, secularism will die its own death there, i have always felt turkey n pakistan are the two most intelligent, resilient n powerful nations among the muslim world who can actually pull things around for the rest, we pakistanis will always stand by our turks brothers whatever the cost, let the roars of suleman shah and ertugul be heard through erdogan,may the ottoman flag fly with freedom again, may the nomads of the highlands migrate into byzantium again...

Real Men have Empires!!!! (paraphrasing former AMD CEO - real men have fabs)

Zafer will be felt inside Turkey and among her friends, while Hezimet outside Turkey and among her enemies!!!

 

[Deliorman]

Pray for his victory .... And don't interfere in Turkey internal affairs ....

You must really hate Turkey and Turks, huh?

Reis Erdo'an is all against the international monetary order; hence, he kicked IMF out. But, nothing can be changed overnight since it wasn't built overnight at the first place. Moreover, Turkey, due to its geography, history etc., is linked to the outside world in a multi-faceted manner. Forcing systems on folks may backfire too!!! Only ~5% of the Iranian university students attend Juma Namaz, while in Turkey it's ~60%!!!! In my long association with a large number of Iranian folks I have never come across a single religious guy. Moreover, they go out of the way to make the point that they're dead against the Molla regime, symbolized by long Jubbe with bottomless Jep, and have nothing to do what they stand for. By the by, Iran has the most die-hard leftist folks in the Muslim world for a reason...



Men have Empires!!!!

Zafer will be felt inside Turkey and among her friends, while Hezimet outside Turkey and among her enemies!!!

From where you get those numbers about the % of university students going to the mosque at friday in Iran and Turkey etc? Is it from your own experience or from a survey done by someone? Or maybe it's just an another delusion of yours...

ps At the end of the day it doesn't matter if you are a good muslim praying five times a day or a bad muslim who doesn't pray on fridays... If you are a brain dead religious monkey you won't achieve anything in life no matter how much you pray to Allah, Reis Erdo'an or to prophet Muhammad. Everything is being achieved with a lot of hard work, studying, improving your knowledge and education... not by hitting your head on the floor five times a day.

 

[Azadkashmir]

Reis Erdo'an is all against the international monetary order; hence, he kicked IMF out. But, nothing can be changed overnight since it wasn't built overnight at the first place. Moreover, Turkey, due to its geography, history etc., is linked to the outside world in a multi-faceted manner. Forcing systems on folks may backfire too!!! Only ~5% of the Iranian university students attend Juma Namaz, while in Turkey it's ~60%!!!! In my long association with a large number of Iranian folks I have never come across a single religious guy. Moreover, they go out of the way to make the point that they're dead against the Molla regime, symbolized by long Jubbe with bottomless Jep, and have nothing to do what they stand for. By the by, Iran has the most die-hard leftist folks in the Muslim world for a reason...



Real Men have Empires!!!! (paraphrasing former AMD CEO - real men have fabs)

Zafer will be felt inside Turkey and among her friends, while Hezimet outside Turkey and among her enemies!!!

i am for the system but erdogan i dont trust i think this guy is another cyrpto jew like the young turk. iranians they suffer from the past history memories, they need to forget past and look towards the future and built a strong iranian country.
Ayottollah was western front man from france becuase thier guy shah was getting too independent. He was taking iran to industrialization and shah understood in order to become strong military wise iran must become well educated and industrialization. So shah had to go like musdaq, musdaq got setup. iranians you have traitors that sell out for cheap money, and media sellout like we do in pakistan, they are planting thier seeds for future western backed revolution.
Anyway when ayottollah came in power he fcuked western world upside down by throwing out hahahah imf world central bank.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

You must really hate Turkey and Turks, huh?



From where you get those numbers about the % of university students going to the mosque at friday in Iran and Turkey etc? Is it from your own experience or from a survey done by someone? Or maybe it's just an another delusion of yours...

ps At the end of the day it doesn't matter if you are a good muslim praying five times a day or a bad muslim who doesn't pray on fridays... If you are a brain dead religious monkey you won't achieve anything in life no matter how much you pray to Allah, Reis Erdo'an or to prophet Muhammad. Everything is being achieved with a lot of hard work, studying, improving your knowledge and education... not by hitting your head on the floor five times a day.

You must be a Kemalist - it doesn't require any "brains" to figure it out!!!! Yes, you're right. It requires lots of hard work to pull Turkey's economy out from a melted to a solid state. A Kemalist President threw a booklet to a secularist PM, and the folks became poorer by 60% overnight. Quite a Keramet!!!

i am for the system but erdogan i dont trust i think this guy is another cyrpto jew like the young turk. iranians they suffer from the past history memories, they need to forget past and look towards the future and built a strong iranian country.
Ayottollah was western front man from france becuase thier guy shah was getting too independent. He was taking iran to industrialization and shah understood in order to become strong military wise iran must become well educated and industrialization. So shah had to go like musdaq, musdaq got setup. iranians you have traitors that sell out for cheap money, and media sellout like we do in pakistan, they are planting thier seeds for future western backed revolution.
Anyway when ayottollah came in power he fcuked western world upside down by throwing out hahahah imf world central bank.

Your assessment about Iran is right. Hopefully, Reis will prove you wrong!!!

 

[Azadkashmir]

You must be a Kemalist - it doesn't require any "brains" to figure it out!!!!


Your assessment about Iran is right. Hopefully, Reis will prove you wrong!!!

braathaaaarrr turkish sultan, i am more about abdul hamid. i hate kemalist they just another bunch of another western a ss kissers with small hearts just like iranian aryan super race german cousins.

 

[Awan68]

Reis Erdo'an is all against the international monetary order; hence, he kicked IMF out. But, nothing can be changed overnight since it wasn't built overnight at the first place. Moreover, Turkey, due to its geography, history etc., is linked to the outside world in a multi-faceted manner. Forcing systems on folks may backfire too!!! Only ~5% of the Iranian university students attend Juma Namaz, while in Turkey it's ~60%!!!! In my long association with a large number of Iranian folks I have never come across a single religious guy. Moreover, they go out of the way to make the point that they're dead against the Molla regime, symbolized by long Jubbe with bottomless Jep, and have nothing to do what they stand for...



Men have Empires!!!!

Zafer will be felt inside Turkey and among her friends, while Hezimet outside Turkey and among her enemies!!!

Reis Erdo'an is all against the international monetary order; hence, he kicked IMF out. But, nothing can be changed overnight since it wasn't built overnight at the first place. Moreover, Turkey, due to its geography, history etc., is linked to the outside world in a multi-faceted manner. Forcing systems on folks may backfire too!!! Only ~5% of the Iranian university students attend Juma Namaz, while in Turkey it's ~60%!!!! In my long association with a large number of Iranian folks I have never come across a single religious guy. Moreover, they go out of the way to make the point that they're dead against the Molla regime, symbolized by long Jubbe with bottomless Jep, and have nothing to do what they stand for. By the by, Iran has the most die-hard leftist folks in the Muslim world for a reason...



Real Men have Empires!!!! (paraphrasing former AMD CEO - real men have fabs)

Zafer will be felt inside Turkey and among her friends, while Hezimet outside Turkey and among her enemies!!!

When one works on the empire of faith within, the empires of this world follow.
Inshallah, the two flags in the ottoman coat of arms, the red crescent n the green crescent shall rise again...

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

When one works on the empire of faith within, the empires of this world follow.
Inshallah, the two flags in the ottoman coat of arms, the red crescent n the green crescent shall rise again...

Amin!! Summe Amin!!!

 

[Deliorman]

You must be a Kemalist - it doesn't require any "brains" to figure it out!!!! Yes, you're right. It requires lots of hard work to pull Turkey's economy out from a melted to a solid state. A Kemalist President threw a booklet to a secularist PM, and the folks became poorer by 60% overnight. Quite a Keramet!!!

I love Kemal Ataturk more than anything on this world and I respect him with all of my heart for all the great things he did for his nation- if it was not for him we wouldn't have been here right now to write on this forum and etc. A real Turkish Nationalist who gave his all for Turkey and loved his Nation more than anything... I can say the same for all the great Turkish Sultans and Leaders of the past who conquered half of the known world, who rulled over the most sacred places of 3 of worlds most dominant religions for centuries, Sultans who made half of the world to be scared of us, Sultans who conquered Constantinople, Jerusalem, Bagdad, Damascus, Cairo and many more. I respect all Turkic Khans who spreaded our seeds all around Eurasia with their conquests and victories.
Those are the things our ancestors achieved all by themselves, with their own sweat and their own blood, with their own lives lost for their own nation... even before Turkic tribes converted to Islam they were great and powerful. Allah didn't do all that for us because we are better Muslims than other nations, we did it by ourselves with His help in our hearts. Real good believers, leaders and conquerors don't talk about how rightheous and close to Allah they are while stealing billions and working against their people's interests... They prove how good of a Muslims and most importantly HUMANS they are with their good thoughts and good deeds. I prefer to be surrounded by honest, humane and good people no matter what their believes are than to be around some people with corrupt souls and minds who are flaunting everyday about how good of a Muslims they are when in reality they aren't.

ps I don't respect those who betrayed their own people for chasing their own interests. I don't respect leaders who lead their countries towards destruction with only thinking about their bank accounts. I don't care if they are from CHP or AKP. I don't care if they pretend to be Secular Kemalists (which a lot them up there aren't) or are a wanna- be Muslim Saints (which also they are not) - for me all greedy liars, manipulators and traitors should be punished no matter what political party they represent. Everyone who divides and harms this nation should be punished- I don't care if he is a Kemalist President from the Cold War era or Erdo Reis himself... Believe me that I used to like Erdogan a lot and I am grateful for what he achieved in the past. In the recent years though I changed my views on him because I saw the huge mistakes he did against his country in his chase for more wealth and power. I can't forgive him that. Turkey's biggest tragedy though is that a lot of people are poorly educated and blindly believe everything they see on TV, Social media or what they hear in the Mosque. More people should understand that professional politicians and their loyal religious servents are not any different than prostitutes.

 

[T-Rex]

You must be a Kemalist - it doesn't require any "brains" to figure it out!!!! Yes, you're right. It requires lots of hard work to pull Turkey's economy out from a melted to a solid state. A Kemalist President threw a booklet to a secularist PM, and the folks became poorer by 60% overnight. Quite a Keramet!!!

One Turkish member of PDF has claimed that Erdogan is rehabilitating the Kemalists and that Gulen is an Islamist, is it true? I'm confused.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

There's a lot of talk that Erdogan will federalize Turkey once he consolidates more power, which probably means autonomy for the Kurds in southeastern Turkey.

I wonder what so many of his die-hard supports on PDF will think of him if or once he actually does that.

I feel that there's a lot of hero worship among the Turks. Ataturk has been dead for nearly a hundred years so a lot of Turks right now are looking for a new Messiah figure.

The problem with hero worship is that it ends up destroying countries. It hasn't worked out successfully anywhere.

 

[Oublious]

There's a lot of talk that Erdogan will federalize Turkey once he consolidates more power, which probably means autonomy for the Kurds in southeastern Turkey.

I wonder what so many of his die-hard supports on PDF will think of him if or once he actually does that.

I feel that there's a lot of hero worship among the Turks. Ataturk has been dead for nearly a hundred years so a lot of Turks right now are looking for a new Messiah figure.

The problem with hero worship is that it ends up destroying countries. It hasn't worked out successfully anywhere.

Like always you are talking trash, so why are your lovely terrorists against the presidential system? They are yelling for NO, why are you fabricating stories? The quality of PDF is low because of you people.

LOL//

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

Like always you are talking trash, so why are your lovely terrorists against the presidential system? They are yelling for NO, why are you fabricating stories? The quality of PDF is low because of you people.

LOL//

The HDP (the leftist Kurds and their allies) are against the referendum, but Erdogan's right-wing Kurdish allies (Hüda-Par) are backing the referendum along with millions of conservative Kurds. And guess what they're calling for? Decentralization, which is another word for federalism.

You should be careful what you wish for. Erdogan has a habit of playing a double game with the nationalist Turks.

Devlet Bahceli became upset a few days ago when he heard that Erdogan might be thinking of federalization. Yildirim promised the yes voters that he'd resign if this ever happens in order to calm them down. But who cares if Yildirim resigns anyway?

I'm just saying the Turks should be careful what they wish for. Erdogan has many faces, and a few weeks ago the mayor of Istanbul (AKP member) dropped a huge bombshell by saying that he hopes Istanbul will become an autonomous province after the referendum.

 

[HAIDER]

I am not sure about the poll really but when the constitution is changed for the sake of one person, it never produces good result

We saw the same in Pakistan before during military dictators

Zial ul Haq in progress.

 

[OldTwilight]

You must really hate Turkey and Turks, huh?

My Heart is full of love ...