First Scorpene Submarine by 2015

[kurup]

India is expected to commission its first Scorpene submarine being developed by French naval construction group DCNS, by 2015. The state-owned Mazagon Dock Limited (MDL) is producing six SSK Scorpene submarines (P75) under Transfer of Technology from DCNS at a total cost of little over Rs 20,000 crore. Simultaneously, DCNS India, its Indian subsidiary, is working on the selection of Indian companies as partners for local production of the Scorpene’s equipment. DCNS India signed a contract with SEC Industries for the manufacture of high technological equipment for the P75 Scorpene submarines in September 2011 and the second contract was signed in May this year for additional items. The remaining five submarines are expected to be delivered by 2018. Bernard Buisson, Managing Director of DCNS India, said these contracts cover an extensive Transfer of Technology. India has received investments of Rs 20,000 crore so far under the ‘Indian Defence Offset Policy’ that mandates foreign defence equipment suppliers to invest 30 per cent of the contract value in Indian companies.

First Scorpene Submarine by 2015 » Indian Defence Review

 

[Skull and Bones]

AFAIK the lot of first 3 isn't coming with AIP. *Grossly disappointing*

 

[zeus]

Nothing New , Waste of BW

 

[sexy gun]

Scorpene ki khabar milte hi mera dimaag kharaab ho jaata hai.. saala nikamme pane ki hadd hoti hai.. the project started like ages ago and we are yet to see a sub...

And hell, it's not even a SSN.. its a diesel sub for Gods sake.. GEEZ !! Heights of incompetency

 

[selvan33]

Lol project75 itself going to end in 2018(most probably 2020 also). so project 75b will end in 2030 and i wish it should end atleast in 2030.

 

[Tshering22]

This is pathetic.

It has taken so many years to license make a submarine that is already designed and developed.

The government intentionally barred private shipyards because that would reflect the incompetency of the sarkari agencies and the military would prefer products from Pipavav and other shipyards that don't run on taxpayers' money.

 

[faithfulguy]

Scorpene ki khabar milte hi mera dimaag kharaab ho jaata hai.. saala nikamme pane ki hadd hoti hai.. the project started like ages ago and we are yet to see a sub...

And hell, it's not even a SSN.. its a diesel sub for Gods sake.. GEEZ !! Heights of incompetency

India a buying this sub because
Inda is not capable of building one itself.

This is pathetic.

It has taken so many years to license make a submarine that is already designed and developed.

The government intentionally barred private shipyards because that would reflect the incompetency of the sarkari agencies and the military would prefer products from Pipavav and other shipyards that don't run on taxpayers' money.

India should asked the French to build it.

 

[sancho]

India a buying this sub because
Inda is not capable of building one itself.

And we build an SSBN because?

India should asked the French to build it.

The French have build parts of the sub in India, in time, so it has nothing to do with with the place where it will be build but with the capability of the Indian company to absorb the techs and build it as fast as the French could.
That is something that we have seen with several licence productions and is not surprising when you don't have the technological base and when you stick to government own companies only. On the otherside that's the reason why we want licence productions, to let the industry learn and improve for the future.

 

[Kinetic]

And we build an SSBN because?

You cannot teach any born idiot!!!

 

[Gessler]

AFAIK the lot of first 3 isn't coming with AIP. *Grossly disappointing*

Can we upgrade them later with AIP?

 

[Skull and Bones]

Can we upgrade them later with AIP?

The final 3 will have an option to add AIP later on, but the first three won't have any such option.

 

[Gessler]

The final 3 will have an option to add AIP later on, but the first three won't have any such option.

But cant we retrofit the first 3 with AIP as well later on?

 

[Skull and Bones]

But cant we retrofit the first 3 with AIP as well later on?

No, if that was the case, i wouldn't have worried a bit. Given that DRDO is working on their own AIP systems.

 

[Gessler]

I think India should go all-ahead with full-fledged nuclear submarines.

AIP-equipped subs are like interim measures for countries which do not/cannot procure or
maintain nuke-propelled ones. When India can build its own nuke subs and also lease some from
Russia, I think we should simply satisfy ourselves with non-AIP conventional subs and nuclear ones
forming the low and high-end combo.

 

[Skull and Bones]

I think India should go all-ahead with full-fledged nuclear submarines.

AIP-equipped subs are like interim measures for countries which do not/cannot procure or
maintain nuke-propelled ones. When India can build its own nuke subs and also lease some from
Russia, I think we should simply satisfy ourselves with non-AIP conventional subs and nuclear ones
forming the low and high-end combo.

Apples and oranges dude.

Diesel electric subs equipped with AIP are super silent, specially when powered with fuel cells. Perfect role for Sub hunter or to sneak inside enemy territorial water to launch SLCMs.