FINALLY INDIA TO START INDUCTING DHANUSH 155 mm ARTILLERY FROM NEXT MONTH

[Mamsalaphala]

Too bad the GoI and the Army do not share your opinions!!

I am certain they do. ...... it would be naive otherwise.

They also know they cannot protect Indians despite all their bluster.

 

[Omega007]

I am certain they do. ...... it would be naive otherwise.

They also know they cannot protect Indians despite all their bluster.

Well,so far their actions certainly gives a different idea!!Indian Army never willingly bombarded their civilians even during full blown out conflict nor they did during the peak of Kashmir militancy!!What conclusion one is to draw from that gesture..................well,certainly not what you have been harping about!!

 

[Mamsalaphala]

Well,so far their actions certainly gives a different idea!!Indian Army never willingly bombarded their civilians even during full blown out conflict nor they did during the peak of Kashmir militancy!!What conclusion one is to draw from that gesture..................well,certainly not what you have been harping about!!

The conclusion one is to draw from it is that IA did not have enough ammunition to do that.

Second conclusion is that PA do not really care about their civilians.

But I am sure RAW had no qualms about bombing pakistani civilians.

 

[Omega007]

The conclusion one is to draw from it is that IA did not have enough ammunition to do that.

Wrong!!At least for anything during and after 1971,since by then the OFBs had started to manufacture the ammunition in country!!

Second conclusion is that PA do not really care about their civilians.

Open secret as far as Kashmiris are concerned.

But I am sure RAW had no qualms about bombing pakistani civilians.

May be,but R&AW isn't equal or equivalent to Indian Army.Heck,Indian Army doesn't even use their services for intel gathering,not anymore after the 'the tremendous performance' the R&AW showed during the IPKF's fight against LTTE!!

 

[Mamsalaphala]

Wrong!!At least for anything during and after 1971,since by then the OFBs had started to manufacture the ammunition in country!!

May be,but R&AW isn't equal or equivalent to Indian Army.Heck,Indian Army doesn't even use their services for intel gathering,not anymore after the 'the tremendous performance' the R&AW showed during the IPKF's fight against LTTE!!

IA ammunition shortage is legendary. During Kargil IA had to rush to Bharat Forges with a rush order of ammo. IA never had any ammo to waste on civilians. It does not have enough to flatten PA.

RAW do not work for the IA. They work for GoI, as does IA.

What is the point of bombing pak civilians when PA do not care about them ? its a waste of expensive and limited ammo.

 

[Vyom]

Not possible my dear brother.There is treaty in place which prevents both sides from using anything more powerful than a 120mm mortar in the skirmishes,in order to keep the shit from hitting the fans!!

There is no *treaty* just an informal Cease Fire agreement. That is why the guys on the other side stress upon "formalizing the 2003 cease fire" refer to the recent UNGA speech of Noora (Nawaz Sharif)

 

[Jäger]

According to sources that ordnance factory already built 3 dhanush artlillery and rest of 3 are assembled , first batch of six will be delivered next month .

on April 21 2015 , the 155mm/45-calibre Dhanush howitzers had “successfully met all technical parameters” during the winter and summer trials at Sikkim and Pokhran. He also stated that Dhanush incorporates “many improved features” over the Army’s existing artillery guns.

Its long range, light-weight and automation features will help it immensely. Loading ammunition will be fully automatic, and it will be compatible with various kinds of ammo as well.


Going by the views of experts on gunnery; the physics part of it has proved that a 155mm / 52 Cal is an optimum technical parameter within its class in achieving maximum range with highest accuracy. the success of 155mm / 42 Cal Dhanush under trial is of paramount importance for the futuristic ATAGS programme. The success of Dhanush in all the major trials held so far has brought in cheers and much needed hope to all those who wish to see indigenisation and self-reliance in defence sector a reality. He further added that Dhanush is 87 percent indigenous baring the Auxiliary Power Unit (APU) which is from BAE SYSTEMS and the sighting system from SAGEM. Indian private company FORCE MOTORS is developing an APU which will replace the existing foreign make in times to come.

Technical features

The 155/45 Cal Gun System with electronic suite comprises the following unique features:

• 155/45 Cal barrel.
• Modified double baffle muzzle brake.
• Modified loading trough to accommodate BMCS Zone-6.
• Electronic suite for enhanced firing accuracy and auto laying.

A comparison of Technical features of Dhanush vis-a-vis in-service 155/39 Cal Bofors guns are as follows:

Electronic Suite & Auto Laying

The electronic suite is a module package, combining a hybrid (Inertial+GPS) Navigation System, a Muzzle Velocity Radar (MVR) and powerful Software solving in real time the ballistics for static or moving targets and for any combination of projectile-change available. The Inertial Navigation System (INS) is an extremely precise system determining the elevation and northing angles of the gun. The system corrects automatically the firing for any variation in ammunition, charge or meteorology. Auto laying is adaptable to any orientation and elevation system hydraulically or electronically powered, it provides an effective solution for automatic laying of the gun barrel.

This 155mm and 45 calibre gun has a maximum effective range of 38 km in plains while the original Bofors gun could not fire effectively beyond 27 km.

The main elements of the Electronic Suite integrated with the gun have EMI/EMC compatibility as per the Standards laid down by the Indian Army and they are as follows:-

Gun Control Computer (GCU/ETC).

• Inertial Navigation System (INS).
• INU, CDU, Phonic Wheel, Travel Lock sensor.
• Muzzle Velocity Radar (MVR).
• Gun Sighting System.
• Modified Electro-hydraulic Valve Block system.
• Communication System-STARS V Radio MK II.
• Drive Electronic Unit (DEU).

how many will be on order? My Indian friends on facebook claim 500-600 on order

 

[Whazzup]

What is the point of bombing pak civilians when PA do not care about them ? its a waste of expensive and limited ammo.

It depends upon the situation if u're trying to take a city u need to use artillery extensively as harassing fire and preparation fire to weaken the defence and to break the morale of the defenders at this situation lives of the people living there matter very less as wars in urban areas can be very brutal.

 

[Mamsalaphala]

It depends upon the situation if u're trying to take a city u need to use artillery extensively as harassing fire and preparation fire to weaken the defence and to break the morale of the defenders at this situation lives of the people living there matter very less as wars in urban areas can be very brutal.

Any and ALL civilian bombing is done to destroy moral. That is the ONLY purpose it serves.

 

[Omega007]

There is no *treaty* just an informal Cease Fire agreement. That is why the guys on the other side stress upon "formalizing the 2003 cease fire" refer to the recent UNGA speech of Noora (Nawaz Sharif)

Whatever.All I'm saying here is that Indian Army doesn't bombard civilians,whatever the reason may be,and neither are they willing to change their policy anytime in the foreseeable future.End of story.

 

[samlove]

how many will be on order? My Indian friends on facebook claim 500-600 on order

initial order is for 114 then 300 after completing this

 

[Jäger]

initial order is for 114 then 300 after completing this

thanks bro for information

 

[Vyom]

Whatever.All I'm saying here is that Indian Army doesn't bombard civilians,whatever the reason may be,and neither are they willing to change their policy anytime in the foreseeable future.End of story.

That stands as it is. IA doesn't bomb civilians.

My contest was to state that Artillery cannot be used at LoC, it very well can be. the Cease fire in 2003 was a verbal one.

 

[Mamsalaphala]

Whatever.All I'm saying here is that Indian Army doesn't bombard civilians,whatever the reason may be,and neither are they willing to change their policy anytime in the foreseeable future.End of story.

Why are you predicting the future ? Lets stick to now.

 

[Mike_Brando]

thanks bro for information

Are you an ethnic German or a German of Indian origin??I am only asking you this because some of my relatives are German citizens.