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Fakhri Pasha "The Defender of Madina"

It is a shame really, all you Bedouins are being called Arabs. It makes many generelizations unjust really. Though, we don't need to go that back. Despite all the resources at your disposal, look at you now... You are a proud subject of a primitive regime with primitive rules, taboos, and way of life.

It seems that you are avoiding my questions because you are ashamed of the facts I mentioned. You have no ancient civilization to brag about. Not even an ancient city still standing. Like your Mongol cousins you were not known for any civilizations that contributed to human civilizations. Look at how little the Ottomans contributed to the Islamic world in terms of science, Islamic thought, poetry, architecture etc.

People that ruled 500-600 years previously were more advanced and so were their cities.

Anyway can you mention me one ancient Turkic city still standing in Central Asia? Is there even one? What about any World UNESCO Heritage site built by Turkic people.

Still no proof for any genetic similarities between Turkish people and Japanese/Koreans because there are none.

Bedouins is the word for nomadic Arabs. When Arab built ancient cities that are several thousands years old let alone the Semitic people that Arabs belong to all Turks were nomads. With no cities whatsoever. Or civilizations. In fact Turks did not exist just 3500 years ago.

@telkon

My Kyrgyz bride hostage taker. There is no proof of any genetic affinity between Turks and Japanese/Koreans. No genetic tests shows this being the case.

So keep crying. Not going to change the facts though.
 
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@al-Hasani. You did not get my point. You are in a rich region - the Middle East. All this manoeuvring was done to have a strong foothold in the region, for oil and for a Zionist state.

We got our independence from Brits, you were helped by the Brits, although handful, to sell your freedom to them. Its a totally different topic. I dont want to derail this thread any further.
 
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@al-Hasani. You did not get my point. You are in a rich region - the Middle East. All this manoeuvring was done to have a strong foothold in the region, for oil and for a Zionist state.

We got our independence from Brits, you were helped by the Brits, although handful, to sell your freedom to them. Its a totally different topic. I dont want to derail this thread any further.

Which maneuvering are you talking about? The Brits and French colonized the ME because it is one of the richest areas of the world in terms of resources, strategic location and because it has always been known as the cradle of civilizations. It was the center of the world for thousands of years. The ME has been the vocal point of the world for thousands of years. When nobody had heard about the Americas, New Zealand, Australia, South East Asia, Sub-Saharan Africa, the South and North Pole etc.

The European powers could not care less about Mongolia, Kazakhstan and other such countries.

KSA was never a British colony. No, it's not different. Either you gain independency or not. It's all that matters. There are just rulers and then there are oppressors. Nobody wants to live under oppressors but most can tolerate just rulers despite not always agreeing with them.
 
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It seems that you are avoiding my questions because you are ashamed of the facts I mentioned. You have no ancient civilization to brag about. Not even an ancient city still standing. Like your Mongol cousins you were not known for any civilizations that contributed to human civilizations. Look at how little the Ottomans contributed to the Islamic world in terms of science, Islamic thought, poetry, architecture etc.

People that ruled 500-600 years previously were more advanced and so were their cities.

Anyway can you mention me one ancient Turkic city still standing in Central Asia? Is there even one? What about any World UNESCO Heritage site built by Turkic people.

Still no proof for any genetic similarities between Turkish people and Japanese/Koreans because there are none.

Bedouins is the word for nomadic Arabs. When Arab built ancient cities that are several thousands years old let alone the Semitic people that Arabs belong to all Turks were nomads. With no cities whatsoever. Or civilizations. In fact Turks did not exist just 3500 years ago.
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It is you actually who is avoiding my questions by bringing up the discussions you had with other members. I have no interest in listening my past from a monkey.

I asked a pretty simple question about your present situation.
 
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It is you actually who is avoiding my questions by bringing up the discussions you had with other members. I have no interest in listening my past from a monkey.

I asked a pretty simple question about your present situation.

I understand that. A Mongol like you is ashamed of having nothing to brag about.

The GCC is the richest Muslim area in the world and among the richest places on earth. Most stable, most happy, most safe, most rapidly growing etc. How is the situation in a Turkish village in the center of the country or in the poor northeast?

How do 25% of the population (Kurds) live? Like in the Middle Ages.

Ever wondered why so many Turks migrated to the West despite there being no major wars in Turkey? Why did they escape?

Not even NATO membership and all that followed in terms of Western help and cooperation since the end of WW2 could help them from escaping.

Your GDP per capita is slightly bigger than that of small and war-ridden Lebanon with no resources. No need to fool anybody with false bravado.
 
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Stripped how? By repeating himself x times, dragging others posts into a conversation with you, ignoring the answers from people who show him his mistake.

Im sorry for you if thats the best you can offer... :coffee:

Yet all I see is false Turkish bravado and empty claims that they cannot back up. Even after hours of discussion.

Where is the supposed "proof" of a genetic affinity between Turks and Japanese/Korean people? More precisely genetic tests that prove such connection? There is no such thing.

Despite this you have Turks here claiming this but not providing sources for it. I am sorry but we can't take that seriously.
 
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İ see our boy is getting frustrated more and more :)

I am completely calm and not frustrated. For what reason should I be frustrated? Only reason is for the upcoming exam that I have not prepared well enough for but that has nothing to do with any Turks.

I am not the one making false claims left and right and when called out vanishing. I am discussing with 6-7 Turkish members at once. Yet you are still unable to win any arguments or answer my questions.

Still waiting for a proof. Been 2 hours now.
 
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@al-Hasani

I thought you were going to study, must be bored eh:P?

impossible, that would mean that he withdraws and we win! so, he must and will continue till we stop first! he must feel like a winner, it´s good for habibi´s ego! we had this kind of forum behavior when we were 16 or so. some people, though, just need that extra time to grow up...
 
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impossible, that would mean that he withdraws and we win! so, he must and will continue till we stop first! he must feel like a winner, it´s good for habibi´s ego! we had this kind of forum behavior when we were 16 or so. some people, though, just need that extra time to grow up...

It's not about winning. It's about backing up a false claim and not vanishing when called out.

You must be drunk if you think that anyone is winning anything. Winning as losing time on a internet forum. I call that losing. If I was payed for this I might have been "winning".
 
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I am completely calm and not frustrated. For what reason?

I am not the one making false claims left and right and when called out vanishing. I am discussing with 6-7 Turkish members at once. Yet you are still unable to win any arguments or answer my questions.

What argumemt? Did İ ever argue any subject with you in this thread?
Only reason İ'm here is because İ find you hilarious at this point.

And if İ ever need to discuss, İ will discuss. i will also silence with your imaginary Saudi is strong biggest construction company jibberish,

Like İ said İ'm only here because you, the court jester, is giving a nice performance here.
 
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Yet all I see is false Turkish bravado and empty claims that they cannot back up. Even after hours of discussion.

Where is the supposed "proof" of a genetic affinity between Turks and Japanese/Korean people? More precisely genetic tests that prove such connection? There is no such thing.

Despite this you have Turks here claiming this but not providing sources for it. I am sorry but we can't take that seriously.
You are the one whos not beeing taken serious, you have been humiliated from several users in previous pages (not only from Turks).
Everything you are writing now has been discussed in previous pages...

You are famous for repeating yourself x times, people get bored to answer it again and again, try to make points without repeating yourself, Quatity isnt the same as Quality if you know what i mean.
 
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