The way you type, you seem to think you know the facts, but you only present half-truths.
Even 60-70 block-52 and MLU F-16s is not to be taken lightly. You forget they are armed with AMRAAMs and do not need to approach Indian fighters OR switch on their own radars! With Erieye giving them target cues through Link-16, they can simply rain AMRAAMs at any intruders while other PAF aircraft go WVR.
I already know that JF-17 is a low cost medium tech plane and it is not the F-16. What is your point? The first JF-17 squadron will be set up by middle of this year (2009), so JF-17 is as near as makes no difference operational. Yes the first 50 will carry Chinese radar and SD-10. Again, what is your point exactly? PAF has already stated that the Chinese radar meets all their current requirements. The radar IS satisfactory. ACM has stated this, the JF-17 test pilots themselves have said it is a "pretty good radar." PAF is looking at western upgrades to make JF-17 competitive radar/weaponry/EW/ECM-wise to your MMRCA, not because they don't like Chinese tech. If they did not like Chinese tech., why do they use so many Chinese built aircraft?
You are correct that RD-93 is not 100% satisfactory at the moment. But it gives JF-17 a TWR of 0.95 - that is better than your Mirage 2000, which has TWR of (correct me if I am wrong) 0.93! You do realise that a TWR of 1 or above is very good? If you round 0.95 up to zero decimal places you get a TWR of.... 1. The main problem with RD-93, as far as I know, is that it's mean time between overhauls is rubbish, not that it's performance is bad. In case you didn't know, RD-93 will be replaced with the Chinese WS-13 TianShan which is both more powerful and more reliable than the RD-93. Last we heard, WS-13 has already undergone final stages of testing - that was last year.
" WAT YOU ARE SAYING IS WE DON,T TRUST CHINEASE ARMS as proficient as the western... "
I HAVE NOT SAID ANY SUCH THING! STOP TYPING RUBBISH!
" SO wen you talk about 5 generation chinease WVR " i think wat are talking about" you don,t even wat their 3rd generation WVR" how conradictary are you..."
What the hell do you mean? PL-9C is generation 3.75. Go to sino defence forum and ask for yourself. How am I being contradictory? This line of your post does not make sense.
As for your 230 MKI and 50+ MMRCA, why don't you go find out WHEN those numbers will be reached? As of now you have only 80 or so MKI and precisely ZERO MMRCA. MMRCA will take years if you haven't figured it out yet. Your Mirage 2000 and Mig-29s are also not upgraded yet. As for your Tejas, don't make me laugh. They will not have AESA until at least 2020 or so and those first 40 will not be capable of combat! Again, correct me if I am wrong but give sources.
Your AWACS won't arrive for some years. 2012 I believe? Again somebody correct me if I am wrong, but PAF's start arriving this year! They already have a training aircraft, delievered last month I think. You and I both know you are only contracted for 3. Six will take even longer. If you want to say "maybe we will have this/that" then I can say maybe PAF will have a space battlecruiser by 2012.
You still haven't shown how your "superior technology" will "slaughter" JF-17s, F-16s and J-10s. By 2015, PAF will be flying an entirely new fleet. By the way, put PAF's J-10 (a.k.a. FC-20) above MKI. FC-20 will have PESA/AESA and TVC too. Chinese pilots have already shown J-10 is better WVR than any flanker, both without TVC. Therefore if TVC is as great as you think it is, FC-20 with TVC will be better than your TVC MKIs. Your "rank" list is nothing but chest-beating and rubbish. BVR I have already shown F-16 + AMRAAMs backed by Erieye will beat anything on that list with the possible exception of the MMRCA, which again, will not be operational for years.
Yes, you are right PAF spends peanuts compared to IAF. Again, what is your point? We don't need a thousand jet fighters to make ourselves feel adequate.
In your original post you were stating that InAF aircraft are technologically superior to PAF aircraft. In my replies, I have proved to you that they are not, or at least will not be when PAF's new fleet becomes operational over the next 1-2 years. Now you are arguing that InAF has numerical superiority too, which I must agree with. But this is still not an interesting discussion, just a pissing contest and so far you have shown you are a clueless child with a big ego. Do you honestly expect people here to take you seriously when all you can come up with is "WE HAVE FLANKERS, WE HAVE THIS, WE HAVE THAT AND THEY ARE BETTER THAN PAKISTANI JUNK!!!"
