F-35 Isreal stealth aircraft detected by air traffic control radar near Lebanon !

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

look to the side box they had give all major fighter jets RCS @undertakerwwefan 0.1 square meter 2 of B-2 and F-22 RCS have @undertakerwwefan

A website with some numbers is not proof.

 

[Ultima Thule]

A website with some numbers is not proof.

So what kind of proof do you want @undertakerwwefan ????

 

[blackuday]

look to the side box they had give all major fighter jets RCS @undertakerwwefan 0.1 square meter 2 of B-2 and F-22 RCS have @undertakerwwefan


may be his personal opinion @blackuday

WHo are you ? a loser ? and he

Air Combat Command chief Gen. Mike Hostage, according to reporter Colin Clark, "labels as 'old think' those critics who point to the F-117 shoot-down and the presumed supremacy of high-powered electronic-magnetic warfare."

The F-35′s cross section is much smaller than the F-22′s. “The F-35 doesn’t have the altitude, doesn’t have the speed [of the F-22], but it can beat the F-22 in stealth.”
http://aviationweek.com/blog/f-35-stealthier-f-22

one more official source

During a flight debriefing, Col. Chris Niemi and Maj. Nash Vickers both said a comparison of the radar-absorbing F-35 to its nimble but less stealthy twin-engine F-22 cousin might not reveal the whole story.

With the F-35 Lightning , this fighter sees better, has more range, and is stealthier than any of its predecessors.

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media...-lightning-public-debut-shows-the-right-stuff

Look at the picture. The F-35 was designed with the DSI, which helped to reduce RCS ahead more than F-22. The F-35 is smaller than the F-22 and is designed with newer, stealth technology than the F-22's 1990s. It's clearly low RCS better than the F-22

"Some of the [low observables] coatings system and gap-fillers that the F-35 had an advantage on, we have incorporated into the Raptor," said Jeff Babione, vice president and general manager of the F-22 program for Lockheed Martin.
http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/6-76123.aspx#startofcomments

 

[Ultima Thule]

WHo are you ? a loser ? and he

Air Combat Command chief Gen. Mike Hostage, according to reporter Colin Clark, "labels as 'old think' those critics who point to the F-117 shoot-down and the presumed supremacy of high-powered electronic-magnetic warfare."

The F-35′s cross section is much smaller than the F-22′s. “The F-35 doesn’t have the altitude, doesn’t have the speed [of the F-22], but it can beat the F-22 in stealth.”
http://aviationweek.com/blog/f-35-stealthier-f-22

one more official source

During a flight debriefing, Col. Chris Niemi and Maj. Nash Vickers both said a comparison of the radar-absorbing F-35 to its nimble but less stealthy twin-engine F-22 cousin might not reveal the whole story.

With the F-35 Lightning , this fighter sees better, has more range, and is stealthier than any of its predecessors.

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media...-lightning-public-debut-shows-the-right-stuff

Look at the picture. The F-35 was designed with the DSI, which helped to reduce RCS ahead more than F-22. The F-35 is smaller than the F-22 and is designed with newer, stealth technology than the F-22's 1990s. It's clearly low RCS better than the F-22

"Some of the [low observables] coatings system and gap-fillers that the F-35 had an advantage on, we have incorporated into the Raptor," said Jeff Babione, vice president and general manager of the F-22 program for Lockheed Martin.
http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/6-76123.aspx#startofcomments

F-22 is a highly classified jet for USAF, we just don't which classified tech it uses and we just know raw figure about F-22, as for claiming F-35 has a low RCS than F-22 is just a marketing/ publicity claiming @blackuday because F-35 is export oriented fighter jet @blackuday , i can show lots of site that claiming F-22 has a better RCS than F-35 (USAF) @blackuday

 

[DavidSling]

Right in your source

MLAT
In some regions with coverage from several FR24-receivers we also calculate positions of non-ADS-B equipped aircraft with the help of Multilateration (MLAT), by using a method known as Time Difference of Arrival (TDOA). By measuring the the time it takes to receive the signal from aircraft with an older ModeS-transponder, it's possible to calculate the position of these aircraft. Four FR24-receivers or more, receiving signals from the same aircraft, are needed to make MLAT work. MLAT coverage can only be achieved above about 3,000-10,000 feet as the probability that four or more receivers can receive the transponder signal increases with increased altitude.

Most parts of Europe and North America are today covered with MLAT above about 3,000-10,000 feet. There is also some MLAT coverage in Mexico, Brazil, South Africa, India, China, Japan, Taiwan, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia and New Zealand. More areas will get MLAT coverage as we continue to add new receivers to our network.

Blocking
For security and privacy reasons information about some aircraft is limited or blocked. This includes most military aircraft and certain high profile aircraft, like Air Force One.

ru retarded, if F-35 appeared on the map it only cause it wanted to, probably cause of alerting commercial airlines or smt

 

[Beny Karachun]

@undertakerwwefan

Nope. Visible light and radio are the same, only difference is wavelength. The principle is the same. The aim of stealth is to deflect and scatter light.

F-35 nozzle

F-16 nozzle

Any difference in light scattering is insignificant.

Are you autistic? The difference is all about different wave length. Su-57 is as stealthy as its hangar that it's stuck in.

Besides the Su-57 has a bigger heat signature than the sun

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Are you autistic? The difference is all about different wave length. Su-57 is as stealthy as its hangar that it's stuck in.

BS. At least Russia makes 5th gen jet. Not like Israel can't even make a jet engine.

 

[Beny Karachun]

BS. At least Russia makes 5th gen jet. Not like Israel can't even make a jet engine.

"""5th gen""" Yeah right.
Israel has operational 5th generation aircraft, Russia doesn't

 

[blackuday]

F-22 is a highly classified jet for USAF, we just don't which classified tech it uses and we just know raw figure about F-22, as for claiming F-35 has a low RCS than F-22 is just a marketing/ publicity claiming @blackuday because F-35 is export oriented fighter jet @blackuday , i can show lots of site that claiming F-22 has a better RCS than F-35 (USAF) @blackuday

And finally you can not deny the statement of the pilot and senior US Air Force. Demonstrate the F-22 more stealth than the F-35 by analyzing, official source, rather than sensing, personal feelings

WHo are you ? a loser ? and he

Air Combat Command chief Gen. Mike Hostage, according to reporter Colin Clark, "labels as 'old think' those critics who point to the F-117 shoot-down and the presumed supremacy of high-powered electronic-magnetic warfare."

The F-35′s cross section is much smaller than the F-22′s. “The F-35 doesn’t have the altitude, doesn’t have the speed [of the F-22], but it can beat the F-22 in stealth.”
http://aviationweek.com/blog/f-35-stealthier-f-22

one more official source

During a flight debriefing, Col. Chris Niemi and Maj. Nash Vickers both said a comparison of the radar-absorbing F-35 to its nimble but less stealthy twin-engine F-22 cousin might not reveal the whole story.Media

With the F-35 Lightning , this fighter sees better, has more range, and is stealthier than any of its predecessors.

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media...-lightning-public-debut-shows-the-right-stuff

Look at the picture. The F-35 was designed with the DSI, which helped to reduce RCS ahead more than F-22. The F-35 is smaller than the F-22 and is designed with newer, stealth technology than the F-22's 1990s. It's clearly low RCS better than the F-22

"Some of the [low observables] coatings system and gap-fillers that the F-35 had an advantage on, we have incorporated into the Raptor," said Jeff Babione, vice president and general manager of the F-22 program for Lockheed Martin.
http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/6-76123.aspx#startofcomments

"""5th gen""" Yeah right.
Israel has operational 5th generation aircraft, Russia doesn't

lol 5th generation aircraft is detected by air traffic control radar

what operational ? The F-35I does not currently use any weapon, but it still action at the mouth of F-35's fanboy. Israel has only about 3 F-35s, not enough air regiment, what operations other than flying from one place to another?

RUSSIAN SU-57 LAUNCH NEW CRUISE MISSILE AT SYRIA

Is Israel ever announcing a similar video, the F-35I actually uses weapons in actual combat? The F-35 uses EOTS to save the video, but Israel has never released any video of its combat activity.

Israel has traditionally boasted and PR of their fighting prowess by video clips

Watch the Israeli Air Force Hits Syria's Nuclear Reactor in 2007

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

"""5th gen""" Yeah right.
Israel has operational 5th generation aircraft, Russia doesn't

Not yours. Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man how to fish, he eats for a life time. Israel to America is Syria to Russia. Just a puppet client state.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Not yours. Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man how to fish, he eats for a life time. Israel to America is Syria to Russia. Just a puppet client state.

Lol I don't even listen to you chromosomeless retard, get out of the gene pool please.

And finally you can not deny the statement of the pilot and senior US Air Force. Demonstrate the F-22 more stealth than the F-35 by analyzing, official source, rather than sensing, personal feelings





lol 5th generation aircraft is detected by air traffic control radar

what operational ? The F-35I does not currently use any weapon, but it still action at the mouth of F-35's fanboy. Israel has only about 3 F-35s, not enough air regiment, what operations other than flying from one place to another?

RUSSIAN SU-57 LAUNCH NEW CRUISE MISSILE AT SYRIA

Is Israel ever announcing a similar video, the F-35I actually uses weapons in actual combat? The F-35 uses EOTS to save the video, but Israel has never released any video of its combat activity.

Israel has traditionally boasted and PR of their fighting prowess by video clips

Watch the Israeli Air Force Hits Syria's Nuclear Reactor in 2007

Lmao this was his transponder being activated not a radar detecting him

Who told you our F-35 doesn't use any weapons? Are you the pilot of one?
Israel has 12 F-35s all of them are active. F-35s attacked Iranian targets two months ago.

What a waste, using a cruise missile fired from a "stealth fighter" against an enemy with no ground to air capabilities.

Lol that video from 2007 bombing was released just this year, so you might wanna wait 11 years until the footage gets released since you think everything is linear and Israel has to release combat footage all the time because it once did.

 

[BHarwana]

F-35 was detected because it was flying with Radar reflectors. Israel is flying most missions with Radar reflectors so that Radar signature of F-35 cannot be recorded. But Russia and China have already recorded the radar signature of F-35.

 

[LeGenD]

No sources indicate that the F-35 is equipped with ADSB beforce 2020, Yugoslavia did not have any air traffic controllers working and they still shoot down the F-117.

Yugoslav (Serbia) is in Europe. Being a European country, Serbia have a better idea of operational mindset of NATO than countries in the Middle East and Asia at large. Secondly, Serbia studied Persian Gulf War (1991) in detail, and drew important lessons from it. FYI: http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2009-04.html

Pilot of that F-117 gave his position by opening bomb doors in a location where Serbian defenses were strong:

The moment of truth came when Zelko opened his bomb doors. That increased his radar signature, allowing the brigade to lock him in their sites and fire two missiles.

According to Zelko, the first one came so close that it buffeted his plane. To his surprise, it didn’t explode – but he wasn’t so lucky with the second. Out at sea, the NATO forces saw the impact.

Despite this, Dale couldn’t help thinking, “Nice shot!”

At that moment, Serbians didn't knew which aircraft they had struck. They learned about their kill when they reached and assessed wreckage. Serbians were not as lucky in any other instance.

F-117 aircraft executed 850 sorties over Serbia in total, and struck many targets there. FYI: https://www.f-117a.com/AFMissions.html

Contrary to propaganda value of the aforementioned incident, Stealth works.

Read pls F35's fan

“During the initial days of the conflict, F-35s occasionally return to their bases - only to discover several are heavily damaged from enemy missile attacks,” Harrigian and Marosko write, in their warplay. Those F-35s must divert to civilian airfields. By this time, the F-22 and F-35 won’t need air traffic controllers as their high-tech computers will guide them to runways, even in bad weather.
https://www.defenseone.com/threats/...icers-give-new-details-f-35-war-china/129562/

That is a 'warplay assumption' on the part of military planners.

We can track the aircraft without ADS-B transponders

Aircraft without ADS-B transponders do not broadcast their latitude/longitude, so FlightAware uses multilateration of 1090 MHz Mode S transponder signals to determine the aircraft's location by using time difference of arrival (TDOA) when an aircraft is detected across four or more receivers/ground stations.
https://fr.flightaware.com/adsb/mlat/

Not interested in cook-the-books argument.

You will not know until F-35 operate over China with the intent to conceal its footprint and kill.

You're right, F35 don't stealth, it is stealth for US and Pro-US. Flying wing designs are real stealth aircraft, they actually disperse radar waves in many directions. The F-22 and F-35 actually reduced the maximum RCS, not stealth similar F117, B2

More cook-the-books nonsense.

If it's stealthy, why can it be tracked specifically and accurately by Flightradar24?

Because of this:

SOP is to make F-35 visible to radars around the world when operating in regions where air traffic is high. This is for the safety of aircraft in general, and also to prevent a curious country to assess unknown blips in the radar screens.

 

[blackuday]

Yugoslav (Serbia) is in Europe. Being a European country, Serbia have a better idea of operational mindset of NATO than countries in the Middle East and Asia at large. Secondly, Serbia studied Persian Gulf War (1991) in detail, and drew important lessons from it. FYI: http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2009-04.html

Pilot of that F-117 gave his position by opening bomb doors in a location where Serbian defenses were strong:

The moment of truth came when Zelko opened his bomb doors. That increased his radar signature, allowing the brigade to lock him in their sites and fire two missiles.

According to Zelko, the first one came so close that it buffeted his plane. To his surprise, it didn’t explode – but he wasn’t so lucky with the second. Out at sea, the NATO forces saw the impact.

Despite this, Dale couldn’t help thinking, “Nice shot!”

At that moment, Serbians didn't knew which aircraft they had struck. They learned about their kill when they reached and assessed wreckage. Serbians were not as lucky in any other instance.

F-117 aircraft executed 850 sorties over Serbia in total, and struck many targets there. FYI: https://www.f-117a.com/AFMissions.html

Contrary to propaganda value of the aforementioned incident, Stealth works.


That is a 'warplay assumption' on the part of military planners.


Not interested in cook-the-books argument.

You will not know until F-35 operate over China with the intent to conceal its footprint and kill.


More cook-the-books nonsense.

Because of this:

SOP is to make F-35 visible to radars around the world when operating in regions where air traffic is high. This is for the safety of aircraft in general, and also to prevent a curious country to assess unknown blips in the radar screens.

Who care! They actually shot down the F-117 and wounded some by Soviet air-defense era

This web: https://www.f-117a.com/AFMissions.html, it not officals,officials web will be org or gov dot com (Ex: nationalinterest.org, globalsecurity.org). It does not have the popular like the web site professional about the international room (Ex: defenceaviation.com, warhistoryonline.com, thedrive.com....)

Opening the door in short times, it too hard for radar Soviet era can detect, track and lock. No official source confirmed the F-117 had opened the bomb bay. These are just American fanboys created to create false information

Where do you base claim on the F-35I that brought the luneburg lens? any link ? Even the Israeli and American are not fabricated

F-35 was detected because it was flying with Radar reflectors. Israel is flying most missions with Radar reflectors so that Radar signature of F-35 cannot be recorded. But Russia and China have already recorded the radar signature of F-35.

Where do you stand to prove? Even the Israelis did not say that

Lol I don't even listen to you chromosomeless retard, get out of the gene pool please.


Lmao this was his transponder being activated not a radar detecting him

Who told you our F-35 doesn't use any weapons? Are you the pilot of one?
Israel has 12 F-35s all of them are active. F-35s attacked Iranian targets two months ago.

What a waste, using a cruise missile fired from a "stealth fighter" against an enemy with no ground to air capabilities.

Lol that video from 2007 bombing was released just this year, so you might wanna wait 11 years until the footage gets released since you think everything is linear and Israel has to release combat footage all the time because it once did.

Can you prove any video or image, the F-35I actually uses a weapon?

I only see American-Israel fanboys just say and say, there is no image or video demonstration to prove. Video advertising is always the benefit of the Israeli and American defense industry, you are against them

How about F35I ?

 

[BHarwana]

Who care! They actually shot down the F-117 and wounded some by Soviet air-defense era

This web: https://www.f-117a.com/AFMissions.html, it not officals,officials web will be org or gov dot com (Ex: nationalinterest.org, globalsecurity.org). It does not have the popular like the web site professional about the international room (Ex: defenceaviation.com, warhistoryonline.com, thedrive.com....)

Opening the door in short times, it too hard for radar Soviet era can detect, track and lock. No official source confirmed the F-117 had opened the bomb bay. These are just American fanboys created to create false information

Where do you base claim on the F-35I that brought the luneburg lens? any link ? Even the Israeli and American are not fabricated

Where do you stand to prove? Even the Israelis did not say that

My info is more credible than press release of Israeli govt. This is the only reason.