F-16 History in Turkey

[Baykuş]

^ How about us, are we able/interested to integrate our own stuff as well?
Thanks for the informative answer btw!

 

[Armstrong]

Almost all Turkish F-16 are block 40/50 what MLU do u want there?

Really ?

I didn't know that; I had imagined that for a country that started procuring F-16s in the '80s they'd have a healthy number of A/Bs or earlier Blocks of the C/D !

 

[T-123456]

See,the Israeli's are better negotiators.
Without being in the program,they get what they want.

 

[Baykuş]

See,the Israeli's are better negotiators.
Without being in the program,they get what they want.

We should be able to put some pressure too. Just tell them that we are considering another option instead of the JSF... no?

 

[T-123456]

^ How about us, are we able/interested to integrate our own stuff as well?
Thanks for the informative answer btw!

We want to,thats why it takes so long.
We should have bought at least two by now,but we didnt because of the codes and own system integration refusal by the US.

 

[500]

Really ?

I didn't know that; I had imagined that for a country that started procuring F-16s in the '80s they'd have a healthy number of A/Bs or earlier Blocks of the C/D !

Turkey never had any A/B. They have some 40 block 30, 15 block 50+. All the rest are block 40/50.

 

[T-123456]

We should be able to put some pressure too. Just tell them that we are considering another option instead of the JSF... no?

No,what difference does it make when they finance hundreds of bilions for the program and we only buy 116 or not?
They dont need us.

 

[Baykuş]

No,what difference does it make when they finance hundreds of bilions for the program and we only buy 116 or not?
They dont need us.

Come on brother, 116 planes equals a lot of money - it should at least make them consider our request Pulling ourselves out of the program would increase the unit cost, which even could make other customers reconsider their choice.

 

[T-123456]

Come on brother, 116 planes equals a lot of money - it should at least make them consider our request Pulling ourselves out of the program would increase the unit cost, which even could make other customers reconsider their choice.

Check this out,then tell me if it would matter.
Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Why do you think we started the TFX-project?

 

[flamer84]

and @Aegis DDG

The number @500 said are the ones built in Turkey. Currently there are 270 jets with 110 of them being block 50 or 50+. Block 50 variants were delivered under Peace Onyx II, III and IV. Here's the source you can see the numbers and variants ordered under PO II, III and IV.

F-16 Air Forces - Turkey :: F-16.net

Arabs (Saudia Arabia,UAE,Kuwait) paid for turkish F16's.Now this is a surprise.

 

[Neptune]

Then why haven't the Block 15s, the Block 30/40s been upgraded to the Block 50/52 level as we had ours upgraded which are comparable to our Block 52s in everything except the range or the payload because an MLU can't reinvent an aircraft !

We have been doing CCIP to Block 30/40s to make them equal to 50s. But there's no A/B variants at air force. So no MLU. At 2015, all 270 F-16 (26 of them for training) will be Block 50/50+.

 

[T-123456]

Arabs (Saudia Arabia,UAE,Kuwait) paid for turkish F16's.Now this is a surprise.

What do you mean by,paid for our F-16s?

 

[flamer84]

What do you mean by,paid for our F-16s?

I've read it in your link and it surprised me.Honestly,didn't saw that one coming.

[In March of 1992, a follow-on order for two batches of 40 block 50 F-16C/D's (68 C's and 12 D's) was placed under thePeace Onyx II FMS program. The funding of the first 40 planes will be met primarily by Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and the Emirates./QUOTE]

 

[T-123456]

I've read it in your link and it surprised me.Honestly,didn't saw that one coming.

Maybe it was a loan,i'm surprised myself.
Btw,the link was provided by @Neptune

 

[Khan_patriot]

interesting....