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[EXPOSED]: Hindu Groups Fuel Hatred of Muslims and Pakistan in United Kingdom

I am assuming that is a medicine for cholesterol ?
Yes, it is a statin
Please tell me which race is this?
Umm, they are centred around the former capital of the British in India, before 1911.

:lol:.........there are NO millions in Pakistan who have relatives in india...........:rofl:
Can we try for 'thousands'?
 
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Take this hijab issue as an example

Hindus say that they just want to impose uniform on muslim girls and that is why they are against hijab or burqa

But the reality is that they just want to put Muslims in their place (auqat)

We all have seen those videos where Muslim women (not students) were forced to remove their hijabs and burqas. Those videos are enough for BJP to win any coming elections

The fact that they managed to make muslim women remove their piece of clothing in front of everyone is reason enough for BJP to win again and again



Hindus can give all the reasons in the world for voting Modi

But deep down we all know the one common reason why he got elected. Gujarat 2002. That unites all hindus

Even after the fact Modi government grossly mismanaged the covid crisis BJP would still win elections easily. And the reason this time again would be the same

You hit the nail on the head.

Modi failed with demonetization, battles with Pakistan and China, handling COVID crisis but he will keep winning because Hindus see him as someone who is willing to crush the Muslims.

Yes, it is a statin

Cholesterol is a scam. Statins are poison. Stop using them.

Need some chai and biskoot.

Biskoots are not healthy. Stay away from them.
 
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You are forgetting British divide and rule policy. Prior to 1857 there was no significant intercommunal violence in India.

What I am about to say, please accept that it comes from a respectful approach.


I have heard the above quoted lame excuse so many times it has become childishly redundant. I cannot believe it keeps getting repeated without fair analysis.
We are criminally guilty of viewing history through a modern prism, that surely cannot be right, it amounts to spreading lies.

Gays were illegal, the meaning of gay was to be happy, in the 19th century conference was held to discuss if women can be considered as human, no language on earth is the same as it was just couple of hundred years ago, women and man have only received equal rights less then a century ago , Switzerland gave women the right to vote just in 1971.

The point being that society and societies were different, societies change due to evolution, education, exposure to other cultures or religions or any number of other factors, the region of India that you and everyone keeps assessing by giving the above statement was a different region. The Marathas killed nearly half a million Biharis and Bengalis in the decade before the battle of Plassey, they did not kill Indians, they killed the other, the other being the Bengali and Behari.

People had different lives, anywhere there are different communities, there will always be problems and I'm sure they existed then, but those problems were limited to extreme localities. How often did anyone leave their village? people accepted the other and accepted the differences. Right now everyone is hell bent on appearing to be alike, in that effort the minority gets absorbed, and if the minority is catered for in any and shape or form, the majority feels aggrieved. you cannot win. The best way is to accept the differences and move on.


There are various factors that have accentuated the differences and identities, they include greater mobility with access to roads and railways, greater literacy, especially higher education and many other factors.
These have allowed each community to see there are others like them, and intermingle with them more often and at a deeper level, that process carry's with it influence and development of societal identity, an identity that's individual to your unique set of believes and values.

I could go on but the point is made, before the British, these things were not so obvious because our societal makeup was different, the mass education did not exist, the railways did not exist, the higher education structures did not exist. The more educated you are, the more clearly you are able to express yourself, and define your own identity that is individual to yourself, an identity that defines you and protects your interest according to your own terms.

If you want to go back to living in the villages, without the access to mass transportation, and what modern society has delivered over the past 200 hundreds years, living in villages that were clearly defined as Hindu village, Sikh village, Muslim village. When people did not eat or drink from the same utensils if another religious group used them, then yes, you are right, these problem will disappear.
Please, be my guest.
 
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Aah. I didn't imply the long vowel. I meant biskut only. There is something about 'biskoot' that looks cool so I used it. Maybe I was trying to be British, like the Poonjab and Poona. Which is quite weird because biscuit is already in English :p:

Well. When I am speaking Urdu, I call it biscuit, as in English; but when I am talking in Punjabi with someone, which I mostly do, I use word "biskut". Similarly, for cigarette, I would say "sirgutt". :-)
 
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We should also offer these immediate visas for those seeking medical treatment, and for those millions with relatives living in India.


Nobody from Pakistan is going to India for medical treatment these days, one reason is all those treatment and surgeries like lever transplant and heart related surgeries are performed here, there maybe a few medical tourists in rare cases.

Initially Indian media started coming up with news and vibes of medical tourists from Pakistan, interviews and all sort of media exposure and that kind of marketing actually led to the downfall and curtailment of medical tourists from Pakistan...Sigh! The pitfalls of unbridled and over ambitious marketing.

The Hindutvadis got the clue from the media that some Pakistanis are visiting India, these bigots started a hue and cry and the BJP govt. just folded under the pressure of these Hindutva elements.


So that marketing gimmicks and hoopla going overboard, started about Pakistan medical tourists to India resulted in stopping the patients from Pakistan visiting India. :lol:
 
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Initially Indian media started coming up with news and vibes of medical tourists from Pakistan, interviews and all sort of media exposure and that kind of marketing actually led to the downfall and curtailment of medical tourists from Pakistan...Sigh! The pitfalls of unbridled and over ambitious marketing.
It was tabloid journalism at its worst.

The Hindutvadis got the clue from the media that some Pakistanis are visiting India, these bigots started a hue and cry and the BJP govt. just folded under the pressure of these Hindutva elements.
This was mean-heartedness, again, at its worst.

So that marketing gimmicks and hoopla going overboard, started about Pakistan medical tourists to India resulted in stopping the patients from Pakistan visiting India.
This really makes me feel angry. There are patients enough, nobody is starved for business, but there was a decent, humane response until the vultures and hyenas arrived on the scene.
 
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@Joe Shearer

Dada,

NOT BJP - 15 out of 26

Incidentally the National Capital too didnt vote BJP at least in the state polls- less than 10 seats in 70.

Regards
 
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It was tabloid journalism at its worst.
Earlier when people seeking medical treatment in India visited the specialty hospitals like Fortis in Delhi or Medanta or their branches in other cities it was kept under the wraps, and done discreetly.

But later on as 'Pakistan' and a visitor from Pakistan is such a big TRP thingy for the media, not just Godi media, they started news about people from Pakistan visiting Indian hospitals, many coming with news like look!! Pakistan has no medical facilities and India is light years ahead, some with positive news too.

And as I said earlier, that led to the Hindutvadis getting the wind about it, they started a smear campaign of sorts and due to the negative political fallout on the BJP govt, they stopped giving visas to the medical tourists from Pakistan.

This is a classic case of pitfalls of marketing done without any farsight.
 
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Most of the elite Hindus naturally dislike Islam and Muslims
I don't think they dislike Islam or Muslims. I don't see that hatred manifesting itself when it comes to Afghan Muslims, Iranian Muslims, Arab Muslims - consider how lovey dovey Modi is with Emirati ruling family.

No, it's far more nuanced than that. This is not Islam versus Hindu thing much as our blinkered population thinks and the facts above demolish any such thoughts.

Their hatred is far more specfic and stems from the political rivalry dating to British Raj times. The Hindu elite expected that the empire British had constructed in South Asia ruled by the Angrez Viceroy would naturally fall into their lap.

Thanks to religion and people like Jinnah that dream escaped them. Thus the historical hatred which today is scoped at Pakistan and the community inside India they wrongly blame for their dream not reaching fruition.

In UK I have noticed that Islamaphobia is general problem that has taken off since 9/11. Many British resent and don't like Muslims - but notice I said Muslims. This extends to Turks, Arabs, Iranians, Algerians etc.

However the Indian lobby in UK tries to harvest this hate and funnels it toward Pakistani's. Meaning their hate is Pakistan specific. Indeed on online discussions I quickly cop on if the hate is coming from Indian - because they will try to take the discussion toward Pakistani's.
 
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This is a classic case of pitfalls of marketing done without any farsight.
I think you are making a mistake, objectifying this as a marketing effort. More than once, the patients bills were waived, the doctors waived their fees, there was a widespread drive to collect funds for the patient and his or her family. Quite often, this was an embarrassment to the family, and they had to convey politely that they had no need for funds and had raised enough to pay for things.

There was a desire to reach out that was totally contaminated by people who wanted to make money out of the situation.

Incidentally, all concerned were interested in interacting with Pakistanis. So much for the trope that every Indian is a Hindu, that every Hindu is a fanatic, and that every Hindu spends most of his waking hours plotting the death of all Pakistanis and the ruin of the Pakistani state.

Sometimes....never mind.

Their hatred is far more specfic and stems from the political rivalry dating to British Raj times. The Hindu elite expected that the empire British had constructed in South Asia ruled by the Angrez Viceroy would naturally fall into their lap.
I've just done half an analytical note on this, and once finished, would like to share it with you.

However the Indian lobby in UK tries to harvest this hate and funnels it toward Pakistani's. Meaning their hate is Pakistan specific. Indeed on online discussions I quickly cop on if the hate is coming from Indian - because they will try to take the discussion toward Pakistani's.
This is becoming a major problem, the Sanghi abroad. The Priti Patel model.
 
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I don't think they dislike Islam or Muslims. I don't see that hatred manifesting itself when it comes to Afghan Muslims, Iranian Muslims, Arab Muslims - consider how lovey dovey Modi is with Emirati ruling family.

No, it's far more nuanced than that. This is not Islam versus Hindu thing much as our blinkered population thinks and the facts above demolish any such thoughts.

Their hatred is far more specfic and stems from the political rivalry dating to British Raj times. The Hindu elite expected that the empire British had constructed in South Asia ruled by the Angrez Viceroy would naturally fall into their lap.

Thanks to religion and people like Jinnah that dream escaped them. Thus the historical hatred which today is scoped at Pakistan and the community inside India they wrongly blame for their dream not reaching fruition.

In UK I have noticed that Islamaphobia is general problem that has taken off since 9/11. Many British resent and don't like Muslims - but notice I said Muslims. This extends to Turks, Arabs, Iranians, Algerians etc.

However the Indian lobby in UK tries to harvest this hate and funnels it toward Pakistani's. Meaning their hate is Pakistan specific. Indeed on online discussions I quickly cop on if the hate is coming from Indian - because they will try to take the discussion toward Pakistani's.









Agreed.

Even though indians try their best to promote their anti-Pakistani agenda in the UK, non-indians are indifferent to them as most Whites, blacks and other non-indians cannot relate or connect to indians. In fact they are very dismissive of them in most cases.
 
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It's better for Pakistan if Modi stays a little longer. He is in self destruction mode. It is excellent for Indian Muslims, otherwise, no powerful leadership emerges from this tyranny of RSS and followers.

Thank you Jinnah and Allah bless you.
 
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I'm glad you took the trouble of writing this detailed response. I can say, with my hand on my heart, that I have PLENTY of friends who do not fall in any of these categories.

Good to hear that but only time will tell in which they would fall. It is only in an actual pogrom that we know who falls in which category

Do you have the heart to accept my challenge?

We will see about that later

Pakistan doesn't accept Indian administration of part of Kashmir. Pakistan sometimes tries to interfere inside India, not as much as some dumb Sanghi clucks claim, not as little as you think, but somewhere in between. Even then, not only do I not hate Pakistan, I wish Pakistan and Pakistanis will do well.

It is tit for tat. In fact Pakistan hasn't fully returned the favor for all the crimes Indian state has committed against Pakistan and its people. Your current rulers very proudly boost and chest thump about their meddling in Pakistan. SSo it isn't a one sided affair in any manner

  1. A majority of Indians DON'T think about Pakistan at all (normally).
I would have considered that to be true if Pakistan wouldn't have become a major topic in every national and state election

  1. Sadly, I have to admit that of that minority of Indians who DO think about Pakistan, the majority fear - not hate, fear - Pakistan.
May be cause of the lies and propaganda fed by Indian state

Again, you are looking at that which you want to see. There are many Indians who do not want anything for Pakistan but for her to exist in peace and prosperity PROVIDED it is not a source of harm for us and our fellow-citizens. Is that an act of enmity? Or does it show hatred?

This view is not shared by those who matter the most and are actual rulers of India. The RSS, the BJP, the section of Indian military that is completely aligned with RSS

Do you think anyone would spend time trying to explain these things to you if he hated you or your country?

I am not saying that you fall in the list of categories that I mentioned above. There can be exceptions. But exceptions don't shape societies or governments. It is the majority that matters and majority falls in any one of the category that I mentioned above
 
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Hindus by default hate muslims and islam. Even the liberal and secular types.
some muslims also hate fellow Muslims and justify violence against them.

the Hinduvita fever is political and fueled by BJP self interests.

such hate is unsustainable. reason among decent hindu majority will eventually win.
 
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